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 Posted:   Apr 9, 2014 - 12:04 AM   
 By:   arthur grant   (Member)

You can tell how dull in wits this writer is if they thought Jar Jar's character was suppose to be a new Chewbacca.

Yawn.


In fairness, he was in fact described that way by some of the movie's production crew members (notably producer Rick McCallum) while the first of the prequel trilogy movies was being made, back in '98 / '99 (presumably not in terms of having a similar personality to Chewie, but in terms of being an alien sidekick to the other, mostly human main characters). I'm therefore guessing the Chewie comparison here reflects not dull wits but actual research (or at least a good memory) on the writer's part.


My little friend went to great lengths to explain what you said in your response to LeHa's comment. He did in fact do his homework quite thoroughly. As to the rest of the by-line on that one, perhaps I'm the guilty (dull wits) party?

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2014 - 4:53 AM   
 By:   orbital   (Member)

Just to clarify, is it because of his persistent hostile attitude toward others or his sudden change of heart at the end of the film? I would think in the context of this topic it would be the former because the latter only occurs at the story's conclusion. Or is it another specific personality trait that annoys you?

No, it's primarily the former respectively the whole stiff cliché he portraits. But then again I found A LOT of characters in this movie to be cliché and therefore did not connect with or cared about them.

I'm with Dana Wilcox concerning his "sudden change of heart" at the end: "a total non sequitur, and not believable". Actually I had to laugh out loud ...

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2014 - 6:00 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I'm with Dana Wilcox concerning his "sudden change of heart" at the end: "a total non sequitur, and not believable". Actually I had to laugh out loud ...

That's because you both missed the point of his actions.

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2014 - 6:34 AM   
 By:   orbital   (Member)

That's because you both missed the point of his actions.

Concerning me you may well be right. I've read your posting concerning his love for his brother's wife etc.. I agree. But this doesn't change the fact that he was willing to shoot the daughter at some point in the movie and I really could not see any development or evolution in his character that would believeably explain his sudden change of heart at the end. To me at least. But like I said I found it (very) hard to connect with the characters (or the movie for that matter) and therefore may have not been *that* interested in their motivations.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2014 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

Macauly Culkin or however he's spelt in the first two Home Alone movies. Irritatingly self-aware.

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2014 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

Joe Pesci in every Lethal Weapon film after 2. Sandwiched in due to the character's popularity, there was no other reason for him to be involved after his initial storyline ended. Result: grating beyond redemption.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2014 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   arthur grant   (Member)

Joe Pesci in every Lethal Weapon film after 2. Sandwiched in due to the character's popularity, there was no other reason for him to be involved after his initial storyline ended. Result: grating beyond redemption.

Have you checked out Mr. X's list? He's listed at #9.

http://thecinemacafe.com/the-cinema-treasure-hunter/2014/4/5/top-ten-annoying-movie-characters#commentsWrapper

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2014 - 11:13 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I read his list and some of those movies are rated "R"! How could the little scamp be allowed to see those?!?

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2014 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

Joe Pesci in every Lethal Weapon film after 2. Sandwiched in due to the character's popularity, there was no other reason for him to be involved after his initial storyline ended. Result: grating beyond redemption.

Have you checked out Mr. X's list? He's listed at #9.

http://thecinemacafe.com/the-cinema-treasure-hunter/2014/4/5/top-ten-annoying-movie-characters#commentsWrapper


Yup, but I think he at least served a purpose in #2. After that, he should have been forgotten.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2014 - 7:12 PM   
 By:   arthur grant   (Member)

I read his list and some of those movies are rated "R"! How could the little scamp be allowed to see those?!?

The little scamp went with some big scamp(s) perhaps, or managed to sneak in, or maybe even watched videos. He only did the list a month or so ago and is a huge movie lover and loves movie trivia. Those are all big box office films aren't they? Oh, I just realized that we have a different rating system here in Australia. They could have been laying around the house (the DVDs that is). Besides which one's are R rated (in the U.S.)? Oh...I think you're having me on...

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2014 - 7:20 PM   
 By:   arthur grant   (Member)

Joe Pesci in every Lethal Weapon film after 2. Sandwiched in due to the character's popularity, there was no other reason for him to be involved after his initial storyline ended. Result: grating beyond redemption.

Have you checked out Mr. X's list? He's listed at #9.

http://thecinemacafe.com/the-cinema-treasure-hunter/2014/4/5/top-ten-annoying-movie-characters#commentsWrapper


Yup, but I think he at least served a purpose in #2. After that, he should have been forgotten.


That's probably true but I think his voice, weaselly mannerisms, constant "okay's" and "whatever's" even in L.W. 2 was too much. My young friend added that he constantly hoped Pesci would break character and walk off the set for good.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2014 - 7:29 PM   
 By:   arthur grant   (Member)

The late, great Mickey Rooney as Mr. Yunioshi in Breakfast at Tiffany's.


Yes, that seems to be a popular choice...(even the Director regretted having him in there).

However, at least his scenes are minimal, he doesn't interact much with the others, and at the time the movie came out nobody seemed that bothered by it at least publicly. After watching the movie many times and recently paying close attention to his scenes I thought he was pretty funny and in a way, quite adorable. (Who likes noisy neighbors??) I think the more modern P.C. response just kind of snowballed and people felt guilty. Also I think some just like to point the finger at older movies forgetting about the numerous examples of far less humorous or more pointedly insulting, racial stereotypes appearing in current popular cinema.

I remember talking with some family and friends once many, many years ago and we were discussing our favorite T.V. shows. My Mom's boss at the time was a successful talent agent and said his favorite was Amos and Andy. Hardly a surprising response given the show's popularity at the time although he seemed a little reticent about mentioning it, perhaps because he was black.

When racial stereotypes are portrayed in drama, especially in a slanted way, I can understand people objecting to it (Birth of a Nation comes to mind). But those done in a clever and humorous spirit (and there are plenty of examples of the latter, not only in the cinema but in real life as well) are generally speaking, all right by me since the creative ones seem to make fun of THE IDEA OF STEREOTYPING rather than the race their characters represent.


And I have yet to hear anything but praise for Peter Sellers' Hrundi V. Bakshi Indian goofball characterization in the same director's The Party. And he was the main character!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2014 - 4:20 AM   
 By:   Clark Wayne   (Member)

Well since you brought him up, Peter Sellers in the Pink Panther (although I will add the caveat mainly the sequels).

Tired unfunny pratfalls and comedy accent do not do it for me. Hated these films even as a kid.

I always found The Emperor in ROTJ to be a real scenery chewing panto villain and as camp as a row of pink tents. Ruined the film for me.

I would add that I think Ian McDiarmid's portrayal actually improved in the prequels-one of the few elements that did.

Jack Black in, well anything really-same with Seth Rogen and Will Ferrell. A trio of unfunny performers who seem to appear largely in 'stoner' comedies because only those baked off their head would find them remotely funny.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2014 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   arthur grant   (Member)

Well since you brought him up, Peter Sellers in the Pink Panther (although I will add the caveat mainly the sequels).

Tired unfunny pratfalls and comedy accent do not do it for me. Hated these films even as a kid.

I always found The Emperor in ROTJ to be a real scenery chewing panto villain and as camp as a row of pink tents. Ruined the film for me.

I would add that I think Ian McDiarmid's portrayal actually improved in the prequels-one of the few elements that did.

Jack Black in, well anything really-same with Seth Rogen and Will Ferrell. A trio of unfunny performers who seem to appear largely in 'stoner' comedies because only those baked off their head would find them remotely funny.


I don't know if you'd be open to it but if you haven't seen School of Rock well...I would probably agree with you about the others but I thought S.O.R. was wonderful.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 4:36 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

THE INCIDENT-67- TONY MUSANTE AND MARTIN SHEEN. what S.O.B hoods. Love it when BEAU BRIDGES does a number on them at the vigilante ending.RIGHT ON.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 12:03 AM   
 By:   barryfan   (Member)

The Emperor was one of the BEST part of ROTJ. Ian McDiamarid really sank his teeth into his part. The Emperor was supposed to be pure evil and that idea came shining through. Was he over the top? Yes, but deliciously so.

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

The Emperor was one of the BEST part of ROTJ. Ian McDiamarid really sank his teeth into his part. The Emperor was supposed to be pure evil and that idea came shining through. Was he over the top? Yes, but deliciously so.

"I'll get you my little pretty!"

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

ON THE WATERFRONT-54-LEE. J COBB. me and other acquaintances of mine over the years felt like ringing his neck.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

WIZARD OF OZ-1939- Margaret Hamilton, melt b----, melt. Meanwhile on the other side of the spectrum, my idol as a kid was the good witch who comforted DOROTHY, wise, strong. stoic, GOOD, DECENT.As for the wizard, a bit of a wimp, insecure, yet spoke wisdom at times, Basically good intentions, but could never totally forgive him for scaring the lion, right out the window I believe? Been awhile since i seen it.

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   random guy   (Member)

the Liv Tyler character in the LOTR movies drove me nuts. yes we get it you chose a mortal life, good for you. and Dobby from the 2nd Potter movie. he was awesome in the Deathly Hollows though.

 
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