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 Posted:   Oct 15, 2009 - 11:36 AM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)



Since their characters aren’t temperamentally dissimilar, we feel



wethink these two woulda gotten along like long-lost, future-found time-traveling gangbusters.



And your assessment about the series has alotta merit, also – except one hasta take into account the
conventions series were hampered by during the 60s and most of the 70s. They hadn’t the luxury and freedom

Steven Bochco and Michael Kozoll demanded and won when



thankfully revolutionized just what an on-going, living, breathing, organically CHANGING series could be.
If The Barkleys had only come along mebbe a decade or so later, the environment woulda been entirely different - with infinitely more opportunities wink

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2009 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)





Before Her Second Emmy for Queen Victoria, Her First Was For Department:



a handsomely-produced drama anthology running on NBC for only a year (1960-61). In addition
to performing gracious hostess duties, she also appeared in every one except four of the half-hour eps.
Among the catalogue of classic guest-stars she corralled were











even this guy with the killer smile we haven’t been able to identify –
say, did he ever amount to anything?



This one’s on our upper Christmas list



fer surrrreeeee smile

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2009 - 12:15 PM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)



ARNOLD LAVEN



February 23, 1922 - September 13 2009




"A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark, but that doesn't mean you go looking to run to one."















R.I.P.





... frown

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2009 - 1:51 PM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)



And Lest We Forget Who REALLY Made This Show So Magnificent Department:



And, as the extract above (and especially below) impressively encapsulates, we’ve gotta go mount up
and mosey along with HooRaq here ‘cause as memorable as Elmer Bee and others' concise
contributions were,



George Duning’s original library of Barkley motifs were in a class of their own and gave the show
its seminal emotional spine.



July 16, 1907 – January 20, 1990.



Ah, Missy, thou art most monumentally missed ... frown frown frown

 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2009 - 4:06 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

This thread--despite the numerous in memoriams--was just the cheer-me-up I needed today. Thanks, Neo.

I wish they'd release the entire series on DVD...



Let's hope the production logos remain intact. I don't have any Fox DVDs so I don't know if they cut things like this, those things that lend so much nostalgia to the proceedings.

 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2009 - 4:24 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

THe Four Star logos are intact on the DVD releases Fox has put out.

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2010 - 6:07 AM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)

Mind You, We Admire Susan Sarandon’s Talent and All



BUT Here’s a Formidable Flash for Any and Everyone About to Beget that ‘Remake’
Department:

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE.



Don't even try.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2010 - 4:54 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Indeed Neo, there can only be one. BUT, if this project ends up causing Fox to restart the original on DVD at long last that would be a plus.

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2010 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The Big Valley DVDs are on sale at Amazon.com for $9.99 each:

http://www.amazon.com/Big-Valley-Season-Richard-Long/dp/B000EHSVB4/ref=pd_cp_d_1

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2010 - 4:04 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

A case of dumping extra copies no doubt, which I hope could be a sign of trying to boost some sales to get people interested in buying new releases if they come out as part of the movie tie-in (I hope!).

Meantime, those who enjoy Stanwyck on TV should get both volumes of her "Barbara Stanwyck Show" anthology series from 1960-61, for which she won an Emmy.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2010 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)



The Odyssey of Jubal Tanner Department:



We earlier pointed out this episode as extraordinary evidence for the special chemistry of equally
mature artistry that existed between Barbara Stanwyck and (our favorite) Richard Long.



This is only one of many classic sequences (3 minutes or so into the clip) these two shared yet it has particular eloquence for what says about the courageous convictions of the individual versus the selfish majority (and
Thoreau’s quote ties it all together superbly).



Impressive kudos to writer Paul Savage and director Arnold Laven – to say nothing and everything of
George Duning’s ever-evocative music.



THAT kind of foundational fibre where talent and material is concerned is, sadly, a rich relic of an era
(whether film or teevee) contemporary 'standards' simply can’t duplicate, match – let alone equal.



And forget about eclipse.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2010 - 6:08 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)



Oh, and Zelig, you're also alive-on-target with your assessment of "Jubal Tanner"; it's particularly vexing as it has so many marvelous moments between Stanwyck and Arthur O'Connell (in the title role), especially concerning the frustrating caught-in-the-middle performance of our favorite, Richard Long (the only one in the cast who could match and equal Stanwyck's power, acting authority, depth and distinction).


And because of that horrendous bit of "writing", the wonderful sentiment gone to waste becuase of that hurried ending, which completely destroyed Victoria's motivation.


The Odyssey of Jubal Tanner Department:

We earlier pointed out this episode as extraordinary evidence for the special chemistry of equally
mature artistry that existed between Barbara Stanwyck and (our favorite) Richard Long.

This is only one of many classic sequences (3 minutes or so into the clip) these two shared yet it has particular eloquence for what says about the courageous convictions of the individual versus the selfish majority (and
Thoreau’s quote ties it all together superbly).



It's three years(!) later and my outrage still burns white hot!!! wink That wonderful rapport between Stanwyck and O'Connell makes that ending all the more shameful when Victoria betrays that bond with the single worst example of "wrap-it-up-quickly" and cringe-inducing--no, make that rage-inducing pap ever committed to celluloid. That episode's ending is maddening and downright insulting.

BTW, I'm "enjoying" my outrage over this. big grin

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2010 - 6:26 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Oh, here's how The Odyssey of Jubal Tanner ends:

O'Connell's character, the titular Jubal Tanner, comes to claim land promised to him by the late Barkley patriarch, Tom. However, a dam is supposed to be built on the land and Nick refuses to give Tanner the land. Tanner is subsequently killed by local landowners who'd benefit from said dam. At episode's end, Tanner's son is reassured by Victoria--who wanted Tanner to have the land--totally changes her position and says to Tanner's grandson that the dam Jubal died to prevent being built will be named The Jubal Tanner Memorial Dam!!! Augh!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2010 - 7:52 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

"The Big Valley" was one of the few bright spots in the declining Four Star Productions, which was never the same after Dick Powell died, followed by the departure of its Executive Music Director Herschel Burke Gilbert (ironically, Gilbert orchestrated for George Duning at Columbia, who composed "The Big Valley" main title).

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2010 - 5:07 AM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)

In Appreciation: Herschel Burke Gilbert.







 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2010 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

In Appreciation: Herschel Burke Gilbert.










I TOTALLY AGREE NEOTRINITY! THIS MAN DESERVES A C.D. COMPILATION OF HIS WORK (or even a "Rifleman" C.D.)!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2010 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)



Could the chemistry



of this cast



be duplicated today?




Guess we’ll see soon enuff,



no?

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2010 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

I have my doubts as I would with any remake/reimagining of a classic property. But if the publicity from it gets Fox to unstall the series from DVD limboland, it will have been worth it IMO.

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2010 - 5:36 PM   
 By:   TheSaint   (Member)

Lee Majors said in a recent interview that he will be playing Papa Barkley(I don't remember Victoria's husband's name at the moment), and Stephen Dorff will be playing one of the Barkley sons.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2010 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)



A Holy Barkley Grail That Needs to Be Digitalized and Re-Issued Department:



It was a 50-minute “Portrait: Barbara Stanwyck” filmed on set in 1968 – and it’s utterly fascinating as it’s
virtually nothing but interviews with most of the principals of the Valley. We’re only gonna share the
first and last segments, but beam over to YouTube and feast yourselves on the entire captivating enterprise.





Herein is the tail end of a segment with Mr. Long’s admiring appraisal.





Wotta dynamic, dynamite, distinctive DAME.

 
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