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 Posted:   Oct 7, 2013 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   Mark R. Y.   (Member)

Re: Enough about The Master, which WAS one of the worst movies ever!

Gee, Ron, should I haul out my "fast food and cheap music" theory again? wink big grin


No, Mark. Spare yourself the effort. This just makes the point that some of us have made about how some films seem to polarize audiences, with some absolutely hating them while others count them among their favorites. We're back to different strokes for different folks. And I try to go out of my way to not castigate nor belittle anyone for having different tastes than mine, just as I would like others to do the same (which is a lost cause, since there seems to be a select number of fans here who make it their their life's work to rip others apart for having differing tastes). But I will try to stop ripping "The Master" apart, or, for that matter, "Tree of Life," since they seem to be sacred cows for many here.


Of course I was just teasing. I really don't mind healthy debate over films. I would be intrigued with a point by point discussion concerning "Tree," "Master," etc.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2013 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Re: Enough about The Master, which WAS one of the worst movies ever!



I will try to stop ripping "The Master" .."Tree of Life," since they seem to be sacred cows for many here.


what about LES MISERABLES?


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LET 'er rip, i say!
bruce

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2013 - 12:43 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

TOS held my interest for about an hour but the last hour plus was like watching someone's Super 8 family home movies.
bruce

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2013 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

First, Mr. Marshall, you're right: I'm still bashing the film version of "Les Miserables," but mostly in response to others who seconded what I had already written, and I appreciated their support.

To Mark R.Y., re: Of course I was just teasing. I really don't mind healthy debate over films. I would be intrigued with a point by point discussion concerning "Tree," "Master," etc.

Appreciate it. Frankly, I wish that I had sat with a notepad in my lap when I watched both "Tree of Life" and "The Master," jotting down notes, as I did when listening to the new CD of "True Grit" for the first time. But, at this point, I've tried to wipe that agonizing memory of those 2 movies away, so there's little I could add beyond the cliché that, despite some beautiful images, "Life" was like watching paint dry and "Master" was just a very unpleasant ordeal. Wish I had more ammunition to bolster my dislike of them, but I'm sure that others will have lots to say on both sides of the debate.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2013 - 3:19 PM   
 By:   Mark R. Y.   (Member)

One thing about "The Tree of Life" is that it gets more rewarding upon reviewings. I watched it for my fifth time last night and discovered new juxtapositions and insights about it that furthered my appreciation. I'll be watching "To the Wonder" for my second time tonight, and hope to get more out of it as well.

There definitely are unpleasant aspects to "The Master," as there is a great deal of pain that the Joaquin Phoenix is dealing with throughout. But I ultimately find it a moving and mysterious meditation on the relationship between Phoenix and Hoffman (as teacher-student, mentor-protege, father-son, ego-id, etc.)

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2013 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Predictably, FILM COMMENT magazine - that bastion of ultra-pretentious, horribly written criticism-
picked THE MASTER as the Best Film of 2012!
brm

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2013 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I'll be watching "To the Wonder" for my second time tonight.....

)


oh boy!!
smile
bruce

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2013 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   Mark R. Y.   (Member)

Predictably, FILM COMMENT magazine - that bastion of ultra-pretentious, horribly written criticism-
picked THE MASTER as the Best Film of 2012!
brm


Three cheers then for ultra-pretentious, horribly written criticism. wink

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2013 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   Mark R. Y.   (Member)

I'll be watching "To the Wonder" for my second time tonight.....

)


oh boy!!
smile
bruce


As I suspected, it's a film that requires more than one viewing. Malick's style has been called "visual poetry," but I think TTW should be thought of as a visual symphony - with its recurring images likened to theme and variations in a symphony or concerto. I also read about how the story of TTW is quite autobiographical for Malick and that the fleeting images and events are his impressions of that time of his life - not as a strict narrative, but as an expression of "shimmers" he experienced. And my initial reaction remains true - that the theme of this film is how ecstatic feelings (whether they be romantic or religious) don't last long and we're faced with dealing with love/faith on more mundane levels.

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2013 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I'll be watching "To the Wonder" for my second time tonight.....

)


oh boy!!
smile
bruce


As I suspected, it's a film that requires more than one viewing. Malick's style has been called "visual poetry," but I think TTW should be thought of as a visual symphony - with its recurring images likened to theme and variations in a symphony or concerto. I also read about how the story of TTW is quite autobiographical for Malick and that the fleeting images and events are his impressions of that time of his life - not as a strict narrative, but as an expression of "shimmers" he experienced. And my initial reaction remains true - that the theme of this film is how ecstatic feelings (whether they be romantic or religious) don't last long and we're faced with dealing with love/faith on more mundane levels.


You don't happen to write for FILM COMMENT, by any chance?
wink
brm

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2013 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Look i have no problem with people who love TREE - there are many good things in it.
But TO THE WONDER????; that's going over the line!
brm

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2013 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   Mark R. Y.   (Member)

I'll be watching "To the Wonder" for my second time tonight.....

)


oh boy!!
smile
bruce


As I suspected, it's a film that requires more than one viewing. Malick's style has been called "visual poetry," but I think TTW should be thought of as a visual symphony - with its recurring images likened to theme and variations in a symphony or concerto. I also read about how the story of TTW is quite autobiographical for Malick and that the fleeting images and events are his impressions of that time of his life - not as a strict narrative, but as an expression of "shimmers" he experienced. And my initial reaction remains true - that the theme of this film is how ecstatic feelings (whether they be romantic or religious) don't last long and we're faced with dealing with love/faith on more mundane levels.


You don't happen to write for FILM COMMENT, by any chance?
wink
brm


I knew you were going to say that. big grin

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2013 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I just had to reprint this review of TO THE WONDER from IMDB.com


"If you are a huge fan of the back of Ben Affleck's head, you'll love this movie.
For me the only enjoyment was in the irony that a film about emotion should be so emotionally uninvolving. That and the joy of seeing the end credits finally roll, upon which I punched the air and shouted "Yes!" This is something I have never felt the need to do before in a cinema, and it certainly surprised my wife (who looked mortified). I didn't care. This film marked a new found level of tedium, so extreme that it should probably be reserved for Guantanamo Bay. One star tedium? You bet. ""


so, who here is a big fan of the back of Ben Affleck's head?
[Backfleck?]
Mark?

smile

ahahahahahahhahahha
brm

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2013 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

First, Mr. Marshall, you're right: I'm still bashing the film version of "Les Miserables," but mostly in response to others who seconded what I had already written, and I appreciated their support.

To Mark R.Y., re: Of course I was just teasing. I really don't mind healthy debate over films. I would be intrigued with a point by point discussion concerning "Tree," "Master," etc.

Appreciate it. Frankly, I wish that I had sat with a notepad in my lap when I watched both "Tree of Life" and "The Master," jotting down notes, as I did when listening to the new CD of "True Grit" for the first time. But, at this point, I've tried to wipe that agonizing memory of those 2 movies away, so there's little I could add beyond the cliché that, despite some beautiful images, "Life" was like watching paint dry and "Master" was just a very unpleasant ordeal. Wish I had more ammunition to bolster my dislike of them, but I'm sure that others will have lots to say on both sides of the debate.



Paul Thomas Anderson and Malick both have a pretension about the films they make.
Kubrick pulled off prentesion, Orson Welles pulled off pretension - the films worked so well usually.

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2013 - 3:05 PM   
 By:   Mark R. Y.   (Member)

I just had to reprint this review of TO THE WONDER from IMDB.com


"If you are a huge fan of the back of Ben Affleck's head, you'll love this movie.
For me the only enjoyment was in the irony that a film about emotion should be so emotionally uninvolving. That and the joy of seeing the end credits finally roll, upon which I punched the air and shouted "Yes!" This is something I have never felt the need to do before in a cinema, and it certainly surprised my wife (who looked mortified). I didn't care. This film marked a new found level of tedium, so extreme that it should probably be reserved for Guantanamo Bay. One star tedium? You bet. ""


so, who here is a big fan of the back of Ben Affleck's head?
[Backfleck?]
Mark?

smile

ahahahahahahhahahha
brm


LOL!

I was too busy staring rhapsodically at Rachel McAdams and Olga Kurylenko's combined gorgeousness to even think of paying much attention to Affleck. big grin

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Okay folks, debate is over.
It's time to vote!

Worst Film of 2011-2012
Nominees are:
TO THE WONDER
THE MASTER
LES MIZ

and the 'winner' is>>>>>>>>>
THE MASTER
congratulations to all who participated in this atrocity

Worst Actor of 2011-2012
Nominees are:
Sean Penn in TREE OF LIFE
Joaquin Phoenix in THE MASTER
Russell Crow in LES MIZ

and the 'winner' is>>>>>>
Joaquin Phoenix

Wow! A sweep for THE MASTER. worst film, worst actor

smile
bruce

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I just had to reprint this review of TO THE WONDER from IMDB.com


"If you are a huge fan of the back of Ben Affleck's head, you'll love this movie.
For me the only enjoyment was in the irony that a film about emotion should be so emotionally uninvolving. That and the joy of seeing the end credits finally roll, upon which I punched the air and shouted "Yes!" This is something I have never felt the need to do before in a cinema, and it certainly surprised my wife (who looked mortified). I didn't care. This film marked a new found level of tedium, so extreme that it should probably be reserved for Guantanamo Bay. One star tedium? You bet. ""


so, who here is a big fan of the back of Ben Affleck's head?
[Backfleck?]
Mark?

smile

ahahahahahahhahahha
brm


LOL!

I was too busy staring rhapsodically at Rachel McAdams and Olga Kurylenko's combined gorgeousness to even think of paying much attention to Affleck. big grin


well Rachel is an absolute sex kitten - wish she was the one who got nekkid
bruce

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

BTW
feel free to cast your vote for worst film/actor
not that they will be counted......


lol!

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   Mark R. Y.   (Member)

Okay folks, debate is over.
It's time to vote!

Worst Film of 2011-2012
Nominees are:
TO THE WONDER
THE MASTER
LES MIZ

and the 'winner' is>>>>>>>>>
THE MASTER
congratulations to all who participated in this atrocity

Worst Actor of 2011-2012
Nominees are:
Sean Penn in TREE OF LIFE
Joaquin Phoenix in THE MASTER
Russell Crow in LES MIZ

and the 'winner' is>>>>>>
Joaquin Phoenix

Wow! A sweep for THE MASTER. worst film, worst actor

smile
bruce


I love all three of those films. And Phoenix was absolutely stunning as Freddie in "The Master." razz

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   Mark R. Y.   (Member)


well Rachel is an absolute sex kitten - wish she was the one who got nekkid
bruce


Hmmm, I think you need to watch TTW again, Bruce!

 
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