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 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 12:04 PM   
 By:   Sarge   (Member)


Don't forget Fox's disgraceful abandonment of HILL STREET BLUES,
one of the biggest blunders any studio has made regarding classic tv.
It's even worse when the title is a continuing "serial" type of show like HSB.
Very annoying. And I don't buy the "disappointing sales" excuse, either.



For obvious reasons, I couldn't agree more.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

Here's a list of shows (that I personally like) in which only one or two
seasons have been released, and have yet to be continued on dvd.

BARETTA (Universal)
BARNABY JONES (CBS/Paramount)
THE BIG VALLEY (Fox)
CANNON (CBS/Paramount)
FANTASY ISLAND (Sony)
HART TO HART (Sony)
HILL STREET BLUES (Fox)
HOTEL (CBS/Paramount)
IRONSIDE (Universal)
LOVE AMERICAN STYLE (CBS/Paramount)
THE LOVE BOAT (CBS/Paramount)
MATT HOUSTON (CBS/Paramount)
McCLOUD (Universal)
MIKE HAMMER (Sony)
THE MOD SQUAD (CBS/Paramount)
QUINCY (Universal)

Other shows like THE STREETS OF SAN FRANCISCO, MANNIX, VEGAS, and
THE UNTOUCHABLES will be getting completed by CBS/Paramount.

KOJAK, POLICE WOMAN, THE ROOKIES, SWAT and POLICE STORY
are continuing on SHOUT.

THE FBI is continuing thru the Warner Archive.

CHARLIE'S ANGELS (Sony) only needs the 5th and final season
to be released.

Den

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 12:15 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

(I Dream of Jeannie is a butchered mess).

I'm curious about your comment, because I never noticed anything missing from I Dream of Jeannie. The only thing that does stand out from those prints are the occasional weird replacement sound effect in some second season episodes that were on the syndicated prints in the 90's. Also the subtitles of what Jeannie was saying in her native language are not on the pilot episode on the DVD sets.

Otherwise, the episodes appear to be intact (although I miss the Screen Gems "S from Hell" missing from most episodes).


The episodes average 22 - 23 minutes, some are even 21 minutes. There's no way they were that short when they originally aired. Sitcoms didn't start getting that short until the '90s. Plus there is the occasional weird edit or fade-out that is out of place. Others have complained about music/sound effect changes that were made, yet original sound effects remain in the dubbed versions.

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

I guess ALL of the studios have been negligent regarding their back catalogs
of various tv shows. There hasn't been one instance of any studio not
screwing up at least one of their shows for dvd.

Notice how they don't do these same screw ups with more recent shows
(shows produced over the last 15 - 20 years). It's always our beloved
classics from the 50's, 60's, 70's and sometimes even the 80's.

Den


Not true. Roseanne, That '70s Show and Will & Grace all had syndication cuts released, with the former two now being corrected for fans who graciously get to re-purchase without any discount if they bought the previous, heinous sets.


Same is true for The Cosby Show. The first two seasons (which have cover boxes that falsely claim the episodes are uncut) are the syndicated prints cut by about 3 minutes each. In order to get the uncut seasons 1 & 2, you have to buy the $90 box set. Outrageous and a real FU to the customers who bought all seasons of the show separately.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 12:24 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)



TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT is another sitcom in which altered and/or
syndication prints were used. Didn't RHODA have some major problems
as far as altered syndication prints? I haven't bought these yet.
I just remember reading fan complaints about them.

Den

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

The episodes average 22 - 23 minutes, some are even 21 minutes. There's no way they were that short when they originally aired. Sitcoms didn't start getting that short until the '90s. Plus there is the occasional weird edit or fade-out that is out of place. Others have complained about music/sound effect changes that were made, yet original sound effects remain in the dubbed versions.

Wow, I'll have to check them out again. I'm usually good at figuring this stuff out on my own. I do agree, I've noticed the sound effects and music changes. Luckily I at least kept my Columbia House set...

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

And here is my list of shows that have had NO release of any kind,
(other than maybe the pilot), that need to get onto dvd. These are
all from the 60's and 70's, with only a couple of 80's titles.

ASSIGNMENT: VIENNA
BANYON
THE BOLD ONES
BRING 'EM BACK ALIVE
CITY OF ANGELS
COOL MILLION
DAN AUGUST
THE DELPHI BUREAU
DELVECCHIO
EDDIE CAPRA MYSTERIES
THE EVIL TOUCH
FANTASTIC JOURNEY
FLAMINGO ROAD
GEMINI MAN
GET CHRISTIE LOVE
GHOST STORY / CIRCLE OF FEAR
HARRY O
THE IMMORTAL
JOURNEY TO THE UNKNOWN
LONGSTREET
THE MAGICIAN
A MAN CALLED SLOANE
MASQUERADE
MATT HELM
MONSTERS
THE MOST DEADLY GAME
MOST WANTED
THE NAME OF THE GAME
O'HARA: U.S. TREASURY
PETROCELLI
RUN FOR YOUR LIFE
SEARCH
THE SIXTH SENSE
STRIKE FORCE
SWITCH
TALES OF THE UNEXPECTED (the Quinn Martin series)

As soon as they release ALL of these shows, my life will be complete. big grin

Den

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Things that bug me are these oddities that require someone to put thought into in order to change them. Like taking the opening theme for Voyage to the bottom of the Sea in the later 4th season and replacing it with an earlier version. Not the visuals, JUST the music. The beginning of the theme would start and at just the "right moment" a different version would take over. Somebody decided to do this on two episodes and for it to happen, someone would have had to spend actual time and care to do it. But…WHY? All it does is piss off the very fans who bought the DVD (the ONLY people who bought it, I might add).

Or the Star Trek TOS Blu-Rays. According to the blurbs, the episodes come with the choice of listening to the original mono broadcast mix. That's great, the new mix is totally different with strangely added sound effects and music from different seasons (an episode from the first season had music from a second season episode). But for some reason, on the second and third season "original broadcast mono tracks" are sounds never heard in the 60's. Somebody decided it would be a good idea to muck with it.

These aren't fixes, these are just out of nowhere changes. Yet, for the life of me, I can't figure out why anyone would spend the time to make these unnecessary alterations.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

These aren't fixes, these are just out of nowhere changes. Yet, for the life of me, I can't figure out why anyone would spend the time to make these unnecessary alterations.

Agreed. The only reason I can think of is that someone is attempting to
make the episodes more "modern" by changing sound effects. Either that,
or they were drunk when they did the new mixes. Who knows?
Why did they change the music on THE FUGITIVE? Paramount claims it's
because they didn't know whether or not they owned the rights to
the original music used for the show. Fine. So why did they do the
same thing on MY THREE SONS and TALES FROM THE DARKSIDE?
I think they bloody well know who owns what. They're just too cheap
to pay for it. Hasn't anyone actually figured out why THE FUGITIVE
Complete Series box set was recalled? I'm willing to bet it has something
to do with Pete Rugolo's death just two weeks prior to the release date.
Maybe the Rugolo estate wants more money? I have a feeling there is
NOT going to be another FUGITIVE set.

Den

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

And here is my list of shows that have had NO release of any kind,
(other than maybe the pilot), that need to get onto dvd. These are
all from the 60's and 70's, with only a couple of 80's titles.


LONGSTREET


The complete series was released on DVD in Japan.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/switch-language/product/B000VIZ41G/ref=dp_change_lang?ie=UTF8&language=en_JP

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

What do you think of Warner Bros. as a Studio releasing vintage series on DVD?
Any examples to examine in the past.

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

What do you think of Warner Bros. as a Studio releasing vintage series on DVD?
Any examples to examine in the past.


They are hit and miss. Some good, some not so good. Right now the only ones coming to mind are not-so-good.

Kung Fu - Season 1 was re-formatted to widescreen, so the tops and bottoms of people's faces were cut off. Season 2 & 3 were the correct full frame aspect ratio, but WB never bothered to correct Season 1.

Dallas - Way too many episodes crammed onto double-sided discs. Picture quality is not great throughout most of the season sets. But I will say that at least the episodes are uncut.

The West Wing - Seasons 1 thru 4 (I think) are double-sided discs with poor picture quality. Subsequent seasons look better, but the first 4 are the best seasons of the show and should look good!

I will say though that I can't think of any WB sets in which the episodes were edited/cut.


 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

What do you think of Warner Bros. as a Studio releasing vintage series on DVD?
Any examples to examine in the past.


Do you mean the Warner Archive? They seem to be doing a good job, thus far.
There's more of a chance of something rare like SEARCH and ASSIGNMENT: VIENNA
getting released on their made-on-demand dvd-r's, than a regular dvd release.
I'm surprised though, that LOGAN'S RUN gets a regular dvd release, and
HARRY O might only get the M-O-D treatment.

As far as WB's other regular commercial releases, they're fine.
Although they screwed up the first season of KUNG FU by
releasing it in the widescreen format (!). WONDER WOMAN
looks fine (pun).

Den

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

The complete series was released on DVD in Japan.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/switch-language/product/B000VIZ41G/ref=dp_change_lang?ie=UTF8&language=en_JP




Gee, thanks. big grin
I can't even figure out how much that set costs in U.S. $$$$$.
I have a complete LONGSTREET dvd set that someone made for me.
Now I know what source they came from. They look really good. smile
Still would like to see a region 1 release though.

Den

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)



Here's a rare, "lost" show I'd also like to have: ORSON WELLES' GREAT MYSTERIES,
with a terrific John Barry theme. You can't even find collectors-made dvds of this.

Den

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 2:34 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

The complete series was released on DVD in Japan.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/switch-language/product/B000VIZ41G/ref=dp_change_lang?ie=UTF8&language=en_JP




Gee, thanks. big grin
I can't even figure out how much that set costs in U.S. $$$$$.
I have a complete LONGSTREET dvd set that someone made for me.
Now I know what source they came from. They look really good. smile
Still would like to see a region 1 release though.

Den


That works out at roughly $229.

17,843.00 JPY = 229.698 USD

http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert/?Amount=17843+&From=JPY&To=USD

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

That works out at roughly $229.

17,843.00 JPY = 229.698 USD




Gee, is that all? eek eek eek eek !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Den

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 2:57 PM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

What do you think of Warner Bros. as a Studio releasing vintage series on DVD?
Any examples to examine in the past.


They are hit and miss. Some good, some not so good. Right now the only ones coming to mind are not-so-good.

Kung Fu - Season 1 was re-formatted to widescreen, so the tops and bottoms of people's faces were cut off. Season 2 & 3 were the correct full frame aspect ratio, but WB never bothered to correct Season 1.

Dallas - Way too many episodes crammed onto double-sided discs. Picture quality is not great throughout most of the season sets. But I will say that at least the episodes are uncut.

The West Wing - Seasons 1 thru 4 (I think) are double-sided discs with poor picture quality. Subsequent seasons look better, but the first 4 are the best seasons of the show and should look good!

I will say though that I can't think of any WB sets in which the episodes were edited/cut.





Thank you for your rundown.
I wonder how they will treat "Logan's Run" in terms of prints quality: raw or restored prints.
All I know is that the set will include many subtitles which may mean they will care about the product.
But who knows for sure.
I am eager to watch "Futurepast" featuring a nightmare scene with a music cue not included in the FSM CD.

If only in America they had a company like Network in England!

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Warner Archive in general I think is doing a good job finally getting into the rollout mode for TV on DVD. It's been a little slower than I would have liked but they are conscientiously it seems trying to make sure there are no issues with music replacement which is an attitude CBS/Paramount should have learned from. I'm also glad that the top two shows of priority interest to me from Warner, "The FBI" and "The Girl From UNCLE" were taken care of in the initial wave.

Warner is also more likely to give us those short-lived obscure shows that have had their music released by FSM which would be great. Other studios would keep them likely hidden forever!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2012 - 4:28 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Season 2 of "The FBI" will be out next week from Warner Archive. This will close the Stephen Brooks era of the show, as William Reynolds took over in S3 as Efrem Zimbalist's partner.

Warner Archive in doing this demonstrates that it is committed to multiple season releases of the TV shows they are handling, as this joins "Cheyenne" as the first two shows to get two seasons released through this program.

Also, CBS/Paramount validates what the syndication bible said regarding "Vegas" with the announcement of the first half of S3 for May. The show should join the ranks of the completed on DVD before year's end.


Season 2 of "The F.B.I." was also the first season to feature the wraparound narration of Marvin Miller.

 
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