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 Posted:   Feb 12, 2015 - 1:55 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

James Horner has airplanes. John Williams has trees. Danny Elfman has Halloween and burlesque horror.

What are some of the other "composer obsessions" that have nothing to do with music per se, but that inspire them to write their stuff?

 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2015 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Great idea for a thread. I know Alan Silvestri has a wine interest but a friend of mine--a big Williams fan--told me back in the '90s that John Williams also was a wine connoisseur. Williams has always been a bit of an enigma and it would be interesting to know what his other interests are.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2015 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Beyond trees, you mean? Yeah, that would be intriguing to know.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2015 - 2:43 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Great idea for a thread. I know Alan Silvestri has a wine interest but a friend of mine--a big Williams fan--told me back in the '90s that John Williams also was a wine connoisseur. Williams has always been a bit of an enigma and it would be interesting to know what his other interests are.

Apparently, John Williams follows baseball and has been a die hard Boston Red Sox fan going back many years. How many other baseball teams have had a fanfare specially written for their home ballpark by someone as esteemed as John Williams?

http://www.espn.go.com/blog/music/post/_/id/98/composer-john-williams-talks-fenway-red-sox

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 1:16 AM   
 By:   Tom Guernsey   (Member)

I gather Ennio morricone is a huge art collector. Sure there's some places that notes the various works he has acquired through the years.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 3:09 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

John Debney, Mark McKenzie and Michael J. Lewis have their deep, Christian beliefs -- also a source of inspiration for their music.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 3:10 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Could you say that Hans Zimmer has 'technology' as an obsession and source of inspiration? I think so.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 3:11 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

James Newton Howard has cities and cityscapes.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 3:27 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

James Newton Howard has cities and cityscapes.

does he collect them, question mark... are you talking about hobbies which influence composers' writing, or just films they've done which have a kind of common denominator, but inspires them into writing the way they do, question mark...

thor, i think you ought to set out the parameters in a much clearer way, otherwise this thread will degenerate into a succession of puerile self-referencing, thus losing the opportunity of becoming a natuarally evolving meta-topic...

...although i think we've done it before... damn search engines a bit wonky.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 3:34 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

James Newton Howard has cities and cityscapes.

does he collect them, question mark... are you talking about hobbies which influence composers' writing, or just films they've done which have a kind of common denominator, but inspires them into writing the way they do, question mark...

thor, i think you ought to set out the parameters in a much clearer way, otherwise this thread will degenerate into a succession of puerile self-referencing, thus losing the opportunity of becoming a natuarally evolving meta-topic...

...although i think we've done it before... damn search engines a bit wonky.


OK, I'll try.

I'm talking about objects or phenomena that a composer feels particularly drawn to (that have nothing to do with music, really). It could be a hobby, it could be a passion, it could be an interest that they've had all their lives. Obviously, if he or she has this, it is often mirrored in the music as well -- such as all the Williams concert pieces inspired by trees, or the way JNH captures cityscapes in his music. In fact, I asked him about this a couple of years ago, in this interview:

http://celluloidtunes.no/celluloid-tunes-07-james-newton-howard/

...and he explained why he felt particularly close to cities, in particular.

By the way, I'm also interested in composers outside the realm of film music here, since our knowledge of composers' personal passions will quickly dry out.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 3:58 AM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

Such as Claude Debussy's love of the sea?

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 4:03 AM   
 By:   edern   (Member)

Basil Poledouris was an avid sailor and surfer. A lot of his scores display an evident love for the sea.

If I'm not mistaken, Joel McNeely loves cooking and even had a blog about food... How can it influence his music? I have absolutely no clue! razz

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 4:06 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

fine - i don't know how relevant this is, but i recall a thread - i really do - about composers' alter egos, in inverted commas, such as british composer bruce montgomery, who was also a successful writer of crime fiction, as edmund crispin...

i must have mentioned this before, but here goes again - gil melle.

blue note boss alfred lion said that melle was a true renaissance man..., one of the youngest of the blue note musicians, and self-taught i think, melle was also a designer and artist for the famous jazz label in the '50s, creating the sleeve images for other musicians' vinyl releases... as a saxophonist, it's easy to hear in some of his film scores how he had been surrounded by band arrangers since his youth.

he was also very interested in electronic instruments, even creating his own... again, no surprise to hear that aspect in his scores, often merged with the increasingly avant-garde jazz leanings.

as a painter, his initial work for blue note developed in later life into digital painting..., which was really one of the main things he dedicated his life to after all but giving up scoring movies and tv..., he was also a sculptor - i wonder how those interests translated into how he approached music...

i believe he was also president of the american microscope society for a period of time, and had a great interest in all things mechanical, such as vintage cars... and i'm forgetting a lot.

anyway, i'm not able to say how such an eclectic combination of interests outside music itself would manifest itself in his music - all i know is that when i first heard the music of gil melle, long before i knew anything at all about him, it was just mind-blowing... like he'd just arrived from another planet and was doing everything so differently from everyone else - there's very little film-music-cliche, in inverted commas, in any of his work.

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 4:11 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Bronislau Kaper was a fencer, and he watched boxing a lot.

Ernest Gold rode horses.

Elmer Bernstein retreated to England each year to paint. Incidentally, are images of any of Elmer's paintings online?

Miklos Rozsa liked photography, and his son Nicholas is a photographer in Frisco. Rozsa also collected ancient classical sculpture, and Flemish Masters.

Andre Previn had a chat show.

Malcolm Arnold liked the amber nectar.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 4:12 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Such as Claude Debussy's love of the sea?

hi timmer, you ain't round here often enough...

your debussy example reminds me of alan hovhaness, a keen astronomer, much of whose work seems to me suitably cosmic, like trying to comprehend the immensity of space and existence itself... if that doesn't sound too pretentious.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 4:13 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

This is great, thanks! Although I should reiterate that I'm mostly interested in those 'obsessions' or interests that had an influence on their composition & music as well. Like Debussy and the sea. Or Hovhaness and mountains/space/nature.

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 4:15 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Scriabin was heavily obsessed by the occult.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 5:54 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

John Debney, Mark McKenzie and Michael J. Lewis have their deep, Christian beliefs -- also a source of inspiration for their music.

i hope we don't get into hot water elaborating on this, but i wonder how much a deep faith can have on a composer's work... miklos rozsa is still my favourite composer for biblical epics, but was alfred newman a profoundly religious man i wonder.... i ask that question because his score for the robe creates a feeling of such spiritual awe that it goes way beyond good craftsmanship - when i listen to the lengthy track called the crucifixion, i'm almost hypnotised and moved to tears by the vast cosmic spell it casts... or is it just a sign of understanding, and being able to convey, real humanity...

sorry once more about these ugly-to-read posts - a few more weeks before i have all my fingers in order.

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 6:00 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Miles "Ascenseur pour l'échafaud" Davis also painted.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2015 - 7:08 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Tall Guy, you know everything about Shostakovich. Didn't he have any extra-musical obsessions or passions that informed his music as well?

 
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