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My understanding is that he wanted Rosenman for III but the producer insisted on using Horner so that I and III would work together musically. Once Nimoy did well with III, he had more clout on IV to bring in Rosenman and get to work with him.
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Another "What if". Would have been nice that he did the Trilogy.
Yeah - but the other way around for me. I would have preferred that Leonard Rosenman score Star Treks II, III & IV. (and that James Horner wrote nothing for ST)
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The funny thing is I can hear in my head exactly what a Horner STIV would have sounded like.
Me too, and every time I listen to Cocoon, that's what I picture him doing. I would love to be able to strip the film of Rosenmann's score and put down Horner's work from that same year. Just to see if it would work.
Regardless of the professional accolades TVH's score received, I never truly liked it much and don't think it has aged well at all. And the Yellowjacket's "Kenny G" styled sax piece just screams "80's." I love 80's music, but that sax and I never got along. 
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I do not really have a problem with it being a time portal to 1986....
Exactly! Especially as it's, um, a time travel story - a sense of time and place is what makes it work.
I'm sure glad you Horner fanatics didn't get what you're dreaming about here. Me, I wouldn't trade any of the scores. I'm delighted so many fine composers - gentlemen with, ahem, stellar science fiction film credentials - contributed to the series.
Plus, I for one love Rosenman's score all the way around. And the expanded edition even more.
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I do not really have a problem with it being a time portal to 1986....
Exactly! Especially as it's, um, a time travel story - a sense of time and place is what makes it work.
I'm sure glad you Horner fanatics didn't get what you're dreaming about here. Me, I wouldn't trade any of the scores. I'm delighted so many fine composers - gentlemen with, ahem, stellar science fiction film credentials - contributed to the series.
Plus, I for one love Rosenman's score all the way around. And the expanded edition even more.
Thanks Sean, yes, I agree that they all fit quite well. I know Rosenman is not the favorite of a lot of score fans, but I think Nimoy chose well, it has a sparkling light and melodic quality, and also an otherwordly tonal quality that works well with the story. The Intrada expanded CD shows this score off quite well, the added material and sound quality are really excellent on that CD.
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I do not really have a problem with it being a time portal to 1986....
Exactly! Especially as it's, um, a time travel story - a sense of time and place is what makes it work.
To be fair, I didn't like it in 1986 either. So, appropriate or not, the sax ALWAYS bugged me. Besides, the "Ballad of the Whale" sax thing wasn't even IN the movie. So, it's really just a time piece that is as tough for me to enjoy as Jerry Goldsmith's "Disco Theme" was for TMP or the dance version of TSFS.
The punk rock spoof "I Hate You" is f'n amazing, though and THAT is a great throwback to the 80's.
There are portions of the score I do enjoy: the finale is exquisite. The theme is pleasant. But I was never a fan of Rosenmann's style and that is always gonna be the bottom line to my feelings on this score. I never really liked his "rat-tat-tat-tat" style. His and Cliff Eidelman's score to TUC are my least favorite, however.....I do listen to them all.
But Horner would have been my go to and I was disappointed even then that he wasn't involved.
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I love that Rosenman chose the Yellowjackets himself. He recognized that while they were very much an of-the-time jazz fusion band they also have strong musical chops and solid compositional skills. And for me a much better choice for a contemporary sound than many others he could have chosen. Though I completely get that they are not to everyone's taste - substitute "disco strings" for the saxophone sound you hate, and I'm right there with you.
(Interestingly, over the years the Yellowjackets have evolved into a much more straight-ahead jazz group.)
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