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 Posted:   May 28, 2010 - 2:58 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Medicopter 117 is the only film music Levay worked on since he left Hollywood around 1993. This is a european series, inspired by Airwolf. Here is a great suite from the series. Other clips are also on youtube. I guess this music is from around 2000/2001. Any info on that other composer, Lothar Scherpe?

This music really deserves a CD release.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MvUsXVI70c

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2010 - 3:10 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Sounds quite cool and "urgent", appropriate of the subject matter, I guess. But it also sounds more like Zimmer than Levay, IMO.

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2010 - 5:57 AM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

I disagree. Sounds VERY much like Levay, specifically AIRWOLF, but for the 1990s (probably the reason he was hired). The sequencer (incidentally sounding like a copter going wudder wudder wudder) line and synths are totally Levay in Airwolf mode, and even the orchestral colouring which most adds to the Zimmer sound are not really compositionally different to Airwolf, it's just that 1990s horn (or real horns) and string samples sound more like the real thing than those primitive sounding analogue synth horns from the early 1980s. Sounds to me very much like what Levay had been doing up until that point with synths, samples, electric guitars and some orchestra (see Hot Shots).

I also think the "orchestral" portions of Levay's score demonstrate a level of orchestration that Zimmer's power chord scores have never had. This sounds more like a classically trained composer to me; music written for specific instruments and not just for a keyboard. the horn work sounds more like Barry to me. In my opinion.

BTW this show came out in 1998!

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2010 - 7:19 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Sounds interesting - to me it does sound very much like Zimmer mixed with Levay's usual TD styled riffs - nothing groundbreaking but sure, I'd take it on CD. Like most of Levay's stuff is more pastiche than anything but can be lots of fun

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2010 - 7:50 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Sounds interesting - to me it does sound very much like Zimmer mixed with Levay's usual TD styled riffs - nothing groundbreaking but sure, I'd take it on CD. Like most of Levay's stuff is more pastiche than anything but can be lots of fun

Yeah, that's a good description....Zimmer meets Levay a la TD!

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2010 - 5:36 AM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

I still don't get the "Zimmer" connection. Levay had been mixing orchestra, synth and electric guitars long before Crimson Tide or The Rock. Is Hot Shots a very Zimmerish score too? roll eyes

Here's the TV intro to Medicopter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0nogK-tD3U

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2010 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Oh, to wish for such a small release such as Levay's NAVY SEALs score...just 20 minutes is all I ask for powers that be!

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2010 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   Giorgio Moroder   (Member)

Oh, to wish for such a small release such as Levay's NAVY SEALs score...just 20 minutes is all I ask for powers that be!
Yeahhhhhhhhhh i love the original score of sylvester levay in NAVY SEALS electronic material with a few orchestral...
But COBRA 1986
WEREWOLF 1987 and OTHERWORLD 1985 (tv serie)
are very good too

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2010 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   Giorgio Moroder   (Member)

Oh, to wish for such a small release such as Levay's NAVY SEALs score...just 20 minutes is all I ask for powers that be!
Yeahhhhhhhhhh i love the original score of sylvester levay in NAVY SEALS electronic material with a few orchestral...
But COBRA 1986
WEREWOLF 1987 and OTHERWORLD 1985 (tv serie)
are very good too

It's too bad that it has never been released !!!!

 
 Posted:   May 31, 2010 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I disagree. Sounds VERY much like Levay, specifically AIRWOLF, but for the 1990s (probably the reason he was hired). The sequencer (incidentally sounding like a copter going wudder wudder wudder) line and synths are totally Levay in Airwolf mode, and even the orchestral colouring which most adds to the Zimmer sound are not really compositionally different to Airwolf, it's just that 1990s horn (or real horns) and string samples sound more like the real thing than those primitive sounding analogue synth horns from the early 1980s. Sounds to me very much like what Levay had been doing up until that point with synths, samples, electric guitars and some orchestra (see Hot Shots).

I also think the "orchestral" portions of Levay's score demonstrate a level of orchestration that Zimmer's power chord scores have never had. This sounds more like a classically trained composer to me; music written for specific instruments and not just for a keyboard. the horn work sounds more like Barry to me. In my opinion.

BTW this show came out in 1998!


I don't understand how you can say this doesn't sound like Zimmer and keep a straight face. ;-D

Also, this show was produced between 1998 and 2006.

 
 
 Posted:   May 31, 2010 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

I still don't get the "Zimmer" connection. Levay had been mixing orchestra, synth and electric guitars long before Crimson Tide or The Rock. Is Hot Shots a very Zimmerish score too? roll eyes

I don't get how you can NOT get the Zimer but CAN get the Airwolf of it.
As much as I adore Airwolf and wish at least once a week with all my soul that it's going to be released on CD, this doesn't do it for me, and that's putting it mildly.
It's 90s German commercial TV action series stuff in other words: terrible. Seriously bad series like "Cobra 11", "Der Clown", "Kommisar Rex" and what have you RTL junk. The only fun was "Kebab 11" on "Freitag Nacht News". Murat und Ali gingen immer wieder vet kras voll drauf "Und ven er nisht gehshtorben iest, erschiest sieh Iehm noch heute".

 
 Posted:   May 31, 2010 - 12:54 PM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Wasn't there a german action TV series called "Motorrad-Cops" in the late 90s with a theme by Hans Zimmer?

The theme starts at 2:22



 
 
 Posted:   May 31, 2010 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

I disagree. Sounds VERY much like Levay, specifically AIRWOLF, but for the 1990s (probably the reason he was hired). The sequencer (incidentally sounding like a copter going wudder wudder wudder) line and synths are totally Levay in Airwolf mode, and even the orchestral colouring which most adds to the Zimmer sound are not really compositionally different to Airwolf, it's just that 1990s horn (or real horns) and string samples sound more like the real thing than those primitive sounding analogue synth horns from the early 1980s. Sounds to me very much like what Levay had been doing up until that point with synths, samples, electric guitars and some orchestra (see Hot Shots).

I also think the "orchestral" portions of Levay's score demonstrate a level of orchestration that Zimmer's power chord scores have never had. This sounds more like a classically trained composer to me; music written for specific instruments and not just for a keyboard. the horn work sounds more like Barry to me. In my opinion.

BTW this show came out in 1998!


I don't understand how you can say this doesn't sound like Zimmer and keep a straight face. ;-D

Also, this show was produced between 1998 and 2006.



I don't get how all you Zimmer fans can say Days of Thunder doesn't sound like Faltermeyer with a straight face, either.

The main theme you posted was there since Season 1 in 1998.

 
 
 Posted:   May 31, 2010 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

I still don't get the "Zimmer" connection. Levay had been mixing orchestra, synth and electric guitars long before Crimson Tide or The Rock. Is Hot Shots a very Zimmerish score too? roll eyes

I don't get how you can NOT get the Zimer but CAN get the Airwolf of it.


A lot of the synth sounds in Medicopter have never appeared in any Zimmer scores, to the best of my knowledge. The orch hits for example, or the sequencer line, both of which are more mid 80s Jon Elias than Zimmer. But alas, you Zimmer fans all seem to think orchestra + synths + electric guitar was something Zimmer created himself, even though Levay had been doing it for a long, long time, long before The Rock and Crimson Tide.

I think there's a dash of the power anthem thing in there, Levay acknowledging the style of the time, but listen to the horn work around 0:40- I don't think you'd ever hear any flourishes like that in a Zimmer film. You seem quite disappointed that Levay wasn't stuck in 1984 but had updated himself for the late 90s. I think it's great (and unsurprising) that he kept with the times.

Like I said, I think had the technology (and or money) been there in 1984, I think Airwolf would have sounded more like Medicopter. I think a lot of you are wooed by the old period analogue synths, because when you look at the composition, I think Medicopter and Airwolf are peas in a pod.

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2010 - 12:16 PM   
 By:   Mark J.Cairns   (Member)

I still don't get the "Zimmer" connection. Levay had been mixing orchestra, synth and electric guitars long before Crimson Tide or The Rock. Is Hot Shots a very Zimmerish score too? roll eyes

I don't get how you can NOT get the Zimer but CAN get the Airwolf of it.


A lot of the synth sounds in Medicopter have never appeared in any Zimmer scores, to the best of my knowledge. The orch hits for example, or the sequencer line, both of which are more mid 80s Jon Elias than Zimmer. But alas, you Zimmer fans all seem to think orchestra + synths + electric guitar was something Zimmer created himself, even though Levay had been doing it for a long, long time, long before The Rock and Crimson Tide.

I think there's a dash of the power anthem thing in there, Levay acknowledging the style of the time, but listen to the horn work around 0:40- I don't think you'd ever hear any flourishes like that in a Zimmer film. You seem quite disappointed that Levay wasn't stuck in 1984 but had updated himself for the late 90s. I think it's great (and unsurprising) that he kept with the times.

Like I said, I think had the technology (and or money) been there in 1984, I think Airwolf would have sounded more like Medicopter. I think a lot of you are wooed by the old period analogue synths, because when you look at the composition, I think Medicopter and Airwolf are peas in a pod.





I didn't hear any "Airwolf" elements/style/sound/riffs/composition at all; it was all Sly's post-Airwolf, early 1990/91 stuff from NAVY SEALS / HOTSHOTS! onwards in there. No looking back to the show at all.

And thank goodness that "Airwolf" didn't sound like Medicopter back in the mid-80s. We'd the joy of both real orchestra and big, fat, warm analogue synths for the original holy grail, depending on the episode/character.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2010 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   MrVigilante   (Member)

This guy has mad Levay albums. Practically everyone too!

http://thefaceofdeath.blogspot.com/

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2010 - 5:19 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

This guy has mad Levay albums. Practically everyone too!

http://thefaceofdeath.blogspot.com/


Yes, I just downloaded Tangerine Dream's Rainbow Drive (1990). Will go on with the Levay scores now.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2010 - 5:29 AM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)

Seeing as one of the few rules that this forum has is one that forbids discussion and promotion of bootlegs, the last two posters might want to amend their comments?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2010 - 5:42 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

aren't these all just DVD or VHS rips, FX and dialogue included?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2010 - 5:52 AM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)

aren't these all just DVD or VHS rips, FX and dialogue included?


Ah - so they're not just bootlegs, they're poor bootlegs at that!

 
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