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 Posted:   Jun 15, 2013 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

a soundtrack cd that has NO MUSIC FROM THE FILM?

Maybe i am naive, but when i see a cd in the store that says "music INSPIRED BY Iron Man 3-
not even "music FROM & Inspired- i shake my head.

So, who exactly buys this crap?
Seriously, i don't get it.

Thank you for your cooperation
smile
bruce

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2013 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

a soundtrack cd that has NO MUSIC FROM THE FILM?

Maybe i am naive, but when i see a cd in the store that says "music INSPIRED BY Iron Man 3-
not even "music FROM & Inspired- i shake my head.

So, who exactly buys this crap?
Seriopusly, i don't get it.

Thank you for your cooperation
smile
bruce



The only reason I can think of is, perhaps they are fans of the artist doing it.

Didn't David Bowie release an album "inspired" by "The Man Who Fell To Earth"? Not sure about that, but I thought he did. And didn't Madonna release one supposedly inspired by her character ("Breathless") in "Dick Tracy"? If you're Bowie or Madonna fans, maybe I can see spending your money on those albums, but other than that....

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2013 - 2:26 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Yeah I don't get it at all. At least put one piece of score on there.

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2013 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   Thor D Faxton   (Member)

Next will be "Music that can be Heard on the Radio While Driving by the Theater Playing . . ."

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2013 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

When you're a "fan" of something, "fan" being derived from the word fanatic, I think you just want anything connected to "that" thing you are a fan of. If the CD has artwork from the movie you love, maybe that's the reason.

It's FANATICAL.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2013 - 3:13 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

When you're a "fan" of something, "fan" being derived from the word fanatic, I think you just want anything connected to "that" thing you are a fan of. If the CD has artwork from the movie you love, maybe that's the reason.

It's FANATICAL.


Yep, it is also derived from the day when people wanted "souvenirs" of their day at the movies but maybe the music wasn't deemed commercial enough. So they ask someone, like Lalo Schifrin, if as long as he is recording something for MGM records, could he come up with a theme "inspired" by the film THE HAUNTING that they can put in as filler for one of their compilation albums?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2013 - 3:14 PM   
 By:   razorback64   (Member)

a soundtrack cd that has NO MUSIC FROM THE FILM?

Maybe i am naive, but when i see a cd in the store that says "music INSPIRED BY Iron Man 3-
not even "music FROM & Inspired- i shake my head.

So, who exactly buys this crap?
Seriopusly, i don't get it.

Thank you for your cooperation
smile
bruce



The only reason I can think of is, perhaps they are fans of the artist doing it.

Didn't David Bowie release an album "inspired" by "The Man Who Fell To Earth"? Not sure about that, but I thought he did. And didn't Madonna release one supposedly inspired by her character ("Breathless") in "Dick Tracy"? If you're Bowie or Madonna fans, maybe I can see spending your money on those albums, but other than that....


David Bowie was going to do the score to 'The Man Who Fell To Earth' and he wrote music for it.

From Wiki:

The genesis of David Bowie's Low ( Album) lies in both the foundations laid by Bowie's previous album Station to Station, and music he intended for the soundtrack to The Man Who Fell to Earth. When Bowie presented his material for the film to Nicolas Roeg, the director decided that it would not be suitable. Roeg preferred a more folksy sound, although John Phillips (the chosen composer for the soundtrack) described Bowie's contributions as "haunting and beautiful".[3] Elements from these pieces were incorporated into Low instead. The album's cover, like Station to Station, is a still from the movie: the photographic image, under the album's title, formed a deliberate pun on the phrase "low profile".

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2013 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I'm still waiting for a Music Inspired By John Cage's 4'33. 80 minutes of not a Goddamn thing.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2013 - 1:12 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

a soundtrack cd that has NO MUSIC FROM THE FILM?

Because they like the music on the album?

Some of them are really nice collections of contemporary music. Not unlike 'regular' themed collections like:



and



and



and



and so on and so on.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2013 - 1:38 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

David Bowie was going to do the score to 'The Man Who Fell To Earth' and he wrote music for it.

From Wiki:

The genesis of David Bowie's Low ( Album) lies in both the foundations laid by Bowie's previous album Station to Station, and music he intended for the soundtrack to The Man Who Fell to Earth. When Bowie presented his material for the film to Nicolas Roeg, the director decided that it would not be suitable. Roeg preferred a more folksy sound, although John Phillips (the chosen composer for the soundtrack) described Bowie's contributions as "haunting and beautiful".[3] Elements from these pieces were incorporated into Low instead. The album's cover, like Station to Station, is a still from the movie: the photographic image, under the album's title, formed a deliberate pun on the phrase "low profile".



Interesting. Thanks for the info.

I wouldn't mind hearing that album, as I actually kind of like and respect David Bowie. (Madonna? Not so much.)

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2013 - 6:08 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

The bigger question to me is why would anyone release something like that. Maybe to make a quick buck, like those inexpensive Disney knockoffs at Walmart. Anyway, here's one example.
Oscar Peterson's alleged score for "The Silent Partner"(1978) has nothing to do with the film music. Either the released LP was the rejected score which was not noted (his name is in the film credits), or it was done for charitable reasons (I read speculation about that). Great for Peterson fans, very disappointing for film fans.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2013 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

The Madonna album that accompanied Dick Tracy contained the Stephen Sondheim songs written for the film. I don't think it fits into this discussion.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2013 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Because they like the music on the album?

Thank you for this, the sane answer.

The albums you reference are a way for a label to put out a song compilation with a variety of artists. The connection to the film is, of course, bogus, but they hope the connection with a hit film will spark interest, where there would be none if the album were called "Hot Hits of 2013!"

Honestly, I prefer that to the older practice, generally abandoned, of jamming snippets of eight songs into a film in order to justify the album.

You might very well ask "Why would anyone purchase orchestral music composed to fit the non-musical timings of a film and exist in the background under the sounds of explosions?" The answer is the same: Because they like the music on the album.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2013 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   zippy   (Member)

The bigger question to me is why would anyone release something like that. Maybe to make a quick buck, like those inexpensive Disney knockoffs at Walmart. Anyway, here's one example.
Oscar Peterson's alleged score for "The Silent Partner"(1978) has nothing to do with the film music. Either the released LP was the rejected score which was not noted (his name is in the film credits), or it was done for charitable reasons (I read speculation about that). Great for Peterson fans, very disappointing for film fans.


According to Ford Thaxton, Ken Wannberg wrote the dramatic score for "The Silent Partner".
Doesn't matter, I'd still love a score release for the film and Pablo can keep the re-recording by Peterson.

I know that's not the purpose of your post, Last Child, I'll take any opportunity to beg a score release for "The Silent Partner" that comes my way! big grin

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2013 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

According to Ford Thaxton, Ken Wannberg wrote the dramatic score for "The Silent Partner".
Doesn't matter, I'd still love a score release for the film and Pablo can keep the re-recording by Peterson.

I know that's not the purpose of your post, Last Child, I'll take any opportunity to beg a score release for "The Silent Partner" that comes my way! big grin


According to stuff I found online:

Peterson won a Genie Award (Canadian Oscar award) for his score. And some book called Oscar Peterson: A Musical Biography, has him for the score. His bio' at his website mentions doing the score, too.

Looks like research time.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2013 - 3:32 PM   
 By:   Jon C   (Member)

Easy. I don't want to buy every AC/DC album, so Iron Man 2 soundtrack was a competent greatest hits album.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2013 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I know that's not the purpose of your post, Last Child, I'll take any opportunity to beg a score release for "The Silent Partner" that comes my way! big grin

heh zippy, I'd still like it released too!

According to stuff I found online:
Peterson won a Genie Award (Canadian Oscar award) for his score. And some book called Oscar Peterson: A Musical Biography, has him for the score. His bio' at his website mentions doing the score, too.
Looks like research time.


I did say he got film credit for the score. And perhaps he did write the actual, implemented film score. All I know is his LP soundtrack was not used in the film. Watch the movie and play the LP, and you'll experience it first hand. I only mentioned it because it fits with the premise of this thread - why would someone buy a soundtrack that doesnt contain the film music. In this case, because the customer was misled, or an Oscar Peterson fan.

If Oscar really did score the film, why wasnt the LP the same or similar? I dont recall where I heard this theory but perhaps he needed the money or something, so they gave him screen credit. However, he couldnt release the actual music since he didnt compose it, so he wrote his own stuff for the LP.
Here's the old thread about this score where Ford mentions Ken Wannberg:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=34069&forumID=1&archive=1

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2013 - 11:23 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)


You might very well ask "Why would anyone purchase orchestral music composed to fit the non-musical timings of a film and exist in the background under the sounds of explosions?" The answer is the same: Because they like the music on the album.


Big difference is that all the original music written for the film is only available on the soundtrack release. The songs on these compilation albums are all available on other albums. If you like the artist you generally have the songs already in some form. Very rarely is every song on one of these albums interesting to a single person. Back in the day when I got hooked on Seether from a Spiderman soundtrack my friend had, that was the only song on there I liked.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2013 - 11:40 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

a soundtrack cd that has NO MUSIC FROM THE FILM?

Maybe i am naive, but when i see a cd in the store that says "music INSPIRED BY Iron Man 3-
not even "music FROM & Inspired- i shake my head.

So, who exactly buys this crap?
Seriopusly, i don't get it.

Thank you for your cooperation
smile
bruce



The only reason I can think of is, perhaps they are fans of the artist doing it.

Didn't David Bowie release an album "inspired" by "The Man Who Fell To Earth"? Not sure about that, but I thought he did. And didn't Madonna release one supposedly inspired by her character ("Breathless") in "Dick Tracy"? If you're Bowie or Madonna fans, maybe I can see spending your money on those albums, but other than that....


To be fair, the Madonna "Breathless" album featured the songs in the film of "Dick Tracy" that did not appear on Elfman's score album. These songs were by Stephen Sondheim, including his Oscar-winning one. It's an interesting album, and since it's all "songs" instead of orchestral, it's in a certain mode that is consistent with Breathless Mahoney and the era of the movie.

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2013 - 12:15 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

The songs on these compilation albums are all available on other albums.

It depends. Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

Similarly, sometimes these CDs sell, sometimes they don't. But in 99.999% of the cases, they at least sell better than their score counterparts.

 
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