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 Posted:   Jun 29, 2013 - 6:24 PM   
 By:   meegle   (Member)

Was listening to SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY and granted it's not one of his "best" or forceful but there's a sound that is unmistakably him and then I realized that we'd never get another new score from him.

Kind of a spiritual realization. frown

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2013 - 6:30 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Well maybe he is in another dimension doing what he does best, given people fine music.

 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2013 - 10:26 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I personally think that is one of his best scores, of the 90's anyways. The main theme is absolutely perfect for that character and tracks like "The Ring" and "The Funeral" rank up there with Total Recall IMO.

And yeah, I wish he was still around. But hey, we are still treated to an unreleased or expanded Jerry score once in a while.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 12:42 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

When Jerry first died I was devastated. I'd spent most of my life following Jerry. I thought I would continue to do so for the rest of my life. His life ended and I realized my life would too. With each year after his death he and his legacy started to fade with fans. Many moved on to other composers. Then there finally came fans who didn't know him or didn't know his works. And I started to feel sorry for myself, that I would join those who have passed on and Jerry would soon fade forever like me.

But something else happened that opened up a whole new world that I wasn't aware of. First some scores by Jerry came out I had never heard. Thus the voyage of discovery continued after his death. Then there was re-recordings that not only had explorations of previous scores but ventured into lost scores like THE SALAMANDER. When my favorite orchestra the GSPO decided to do a tribute to him they did the unthinkable to him, they included a medley of Sherman Brothers hits right in the middle. This mixture of apples and oranges had the mainstream audience in attendance humming their Sherman favorites and irritated they had to sit through more Goldsmith. It would be like doing a Rodger and Hammerstein medley in the middle of a Williams concert. You can't compete with "Oh, What a Beautiful Morning". Yet those that did, started talking about the ways Goldsmith music was unique. Steven Allen Fox who has been a lifelong Williams fan found things on Goldmith's pages that amazed him.

This was when I realized Goldmith's most important journey was just beginning. Every composer has their time in the spotlight. They become somebody's darlings sometime. But after they are gone they will either truly fade away or get reincarnated by conductors and/or other composers who continue to unearth treasures from their work. Hopefully they will keep Jerry alive and be the final truth of his place in music history. The generations to come will find more and more that must be played and studied. I won't see it and neither will Jerry but I am confident that will happen. He was THAT good, not just for this generation but any generation that really looks at the work. He truly went where no composer has gone before and has been emulated, in many ways, by lots of composers since.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 2:14 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

While I miss Jerry a lot..


I really miss Joel..

He was a talented artist and a friend.

54 is way too young to leave this world.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 2:54 AM   
 By:   Gunnar   (Member)

Well put, Morricone, and an important realisation it is, too!
I also think that the new ways how we watch movies - on demand, or mail-rental DVDs/BluRays - will also give many more people an opportunity to rediscover films from earlier periods, as well as their music.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 4:18 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

YOR misses Jerry Goldsmith a lot too.

YOR cried when Jerry died.

Film music is not the same without Jerry...

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 5:11 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

YOR misses Jerry Goldsmith a lot too.

YOR cried when Jerry died.

Film music is not the same without Jerry...


Agreed. And I also miss Kamen too.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 5:57 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

With every new day of RCP terror I miss Jerry more. Even his later scores.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

there's something about talented people dying or being murdered in their 50's and 60's, far ahead of their talentless counterparts. Sad list to read:

Yeah, Joel, 54.

Basil, 61.

John Candy, 45.

Walker, 61.

Phil Hartman, 49.

Harvey Cohen, 55.

Chris Farley, 33 -- even younger!

Kamen, 55.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

there's something about talented people dying or being murdered in their 50's and 60's, far ahead of their talentless counterparts. Sad list to read:

Yeah, Joel, 54.

Basil, 61.

John Candy, 45.

Walker, 61.

Phil Hartman, 49.

Harvey Cohen, 55.

Chris Farley, 33 -- even younger!

Kamen, 55.


Phi Hartman was Murdered, everyone else died from Natural Causes..


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Quote from my post you quoted:

"dying or being murdered"

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

TO MORRICONE- Very touching and refreshing to read on a Sunday morning. How intense and special somebody's talent and work meant to another individual, and yes to many people out there

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

With every new day of RCP terror I miss Jerry more. Even his later scores.

Rcp terror???

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

With every new day of RCP terror I miss Jerry more. Even his later scores.

Rcp terror???

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

With every new day of RCP terror I miss Jerry more. Even his later scores.

Rcp terror???

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Error

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

RCP = Remote Control Productions. Zimmer's company. The old name was Media Ventures.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Thankfully, I have the capacity to enjoy both Hans Zimmer AND Jerry Goldsmith. wink

This way, I can enjoy the classics and still have new scores to look forward to.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 1:02 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

The great thing about Goldsmith is that he wrote so much music (particularly television music) that there's still quite a bit left to be discovered.

 
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