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 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 2:26 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Who is STAR TREK's greatest composer?

I don't mean for achievement outside the field of STAR TREK. We're talking about music for the various STAR TREK TV series and movies.

I find this a very difficult call. James Horner is so close. Alexander Courage is close. But in the end, I call it a tie between Gerald Fried and Fred Steiner.

Your mileage may vary.

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 2:29 AM   
 By:   Juan Carlos García Cortés   (Member)

Not for quantity but for quality: Jerry Goldsmith and James Horner

Cheers!

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 2:45 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

I find this a very difficult call. James Horner is so close. Alexander Courage is close. But in the end, I call it a tie between Gerald Fried and Fred Steiner.

Kidding, right?

Jerry Goldsmith, OF COURSE. Horner running a distant second (mostly because of his plagiarism that mars otherwise fine scores). No one else even compares: Rosenman's effort is highly uneven (though I like the main theme and the comedy bits at lot), Eidelman is not bad, but too obviously imitative of Horner, McCarthy is just plain bland in his feature effort (some of his TNG scores are better). As for the TV scores, nothing even comes close in composition quality to the best of the feature film scores. Necessarily so, perhaps.

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 2:47 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I think the BEST composer to ever write for STAR TREK was Goldsmith.

But I think if you had to honour someone for their contribution to, and synonimity with, STAR TREK music, it would have to be Fred Steiner.

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 2:56 AM   
 By:   Wedge   (Member)

...it would ARGUABLY be Steiner. I think Courage might be in the running. smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 2:58 AM   
 By:   Wedge   (Member)

dp

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 3:02 AM   
 By:   Adam B.   (Member)

I would also vote for Fred Steiner. The overall quality and quantity of his output is outstanding. Sol Kaplan composed my two favorite scores, but I'll still give the nod to Steiner for using his imagination when he often had no visuals to work with when writing under the time constraints of a weekly series.

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 3:06 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

You did get that the question applies to BOTH films and TV shows? How can one honestly argue that Steiner's or Kaplan's (or Fielding's, or Mullendore's, or Duning's, or Courage's, or McCarthy's, or Jones's, or Chattaway's) scores, solid as some of them certainly are, are anything but pygmies against the giant that is Goldsmith's ST:TMP (or, for that matter, TFF & FC)?

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 3:24 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

You did get that the question applies to BOTH films and TV shows? How can one honestly argue that Steiner's or Kaplan's (or Fielding's, or Mullendore's, or Duning's, or Courage's, or McCarthy's, or Jones's, or Chattaway's) scores, solid as some of them certainly are, are anything but pygmies against the giant that is Goldsmith's ST:TMP (or, for that matter, TFF & FC)?

The film scores are bigger, longer, and uncut, but that's not the whole enchilada. If you look at a TOS composer like Fried or Steiner, the number and quality of their melodies is remarkable.

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 3:27 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

You asked for the "GREATEST COMPOSER" who ever worked for Star Trek. And that's Jerry Goldsmith. Certainly not Fred Steiner or Gerald Fried. It doesn't have anything to do with the quantity of the material. Mind you, I'm not saying that those were bad composers. But Jerry's contributions to the trek are outstanding, each and every one of them (maybe Insurrection not so much, but the others).

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 3:47 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Movie-wise Jerry Goldsmith. Tv-series for me it would have to be Dennis McCarthy; he has scored the most episodes and his music is what I associate most with the Star Trek tv universe.

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 4:15 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Movies: Goldsmith
TV: McCarthy

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 5:12 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Whoever wrote "The Cage" and "Man Trap" is my favorite. Is it the same guy? Those are hands down my two favorite Star Trek scores.

Never bothered with the movies so i couldn't tell you a thing about the music in those.

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 5:23 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I am, obviously.

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 5:32 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

Never bothered with the movies so i couldn't tell you a thing about the music in those.

How I wish I could be living in such a small world. Everything would be SO easy. wink

BTW. Listening to good music has nothing to do with having to watch the movies!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 5:52 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Sol Kaplan and Gerald fried. Other than Jerry Goldsmith and John Barry some if the earliest composer names noticed in credits.

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 6:04 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

Easy: GOLDSMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITH!

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 6:04 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

...John Barry some if the earliest composer names noticed in credits.

John Barry did Star Trek?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 6:17 AM   
 By:   steve matthewman   (Member)

Jerry Goldsmith

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2013 - 6:17 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

To this day Monty Norman claims it was him, not John Barry, working on ST.

 
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