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I'm nearly 40 and still watch and enjoy sci fi.If I find the shows that I watch still grab me then I'll continue to watch.If they go off the boil then that's the only real reason that would stop me watching.After all in the UK if you don't watch sci fi than all that's left are soaps and reality tv.I don't want reality tv.I only have to open the front door to see something more'real' than any of the crap in those shows.Tv is escapism,I mean there's not much chance of me jumping on a spaceship for a laugh,is there?
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Feb 27, 2006 - 8:10 PM
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Jim Phelps
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Other than Star Wars, Star Trek, and Tom Baker's Doctor Who, I was never really into Sci-Fi as a kid, as I preferred Westerns and WWII type adventure movies (John Wayne, Clint Eastwood films and Navarone, The Dirty Dozen, e.g.) I find most Sci-Fi to be sub-par at best. One of my favorite shows from my youth, Buck Rogers, is so embarassing to watch nowadays, even for nostalgia's sake. And I love Nostalgia's Sake, especially when it's served at the correct temperature, 98.4F, like this post is.
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Feb 28, 2006 - 3:56 PM
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Ron Pulliam
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Ron, I've been meaning to get into SG-1 and Atlantis and I've never seen a thing of it! But it seems like a fantastic show and I enjoy the film.
As a TV series, "Stargate: SG-1" beats the socks off the movie. IMO, of course. It has been on many, many seasons and there have been some incredible shows in all those seasons.
It's taking me a while to get used to the "new" show, even though I very much like Ben Browder, who took over the spot vacated by Richard Dean Anderson's retirement from the show (as an actor, not as a producer). Browder fits easily into the crew, which includes Samantha Carter, Daniel Jackson and Teal'c (sp?). Beau Bridges took over Stargate Command from Anderson who took it over from Don B. Davis. No utterance of "Jack's" name seems to have been spoken since the new season began...have no idea if he (the character) was reassigned, retired, or died.
"Stargate: Atlantis" often tickles my imagination with its stories, but I'm not a huge fan of the obligatory nemeses...in this show called "the Wraith". Still, it's far more imaginative, entertaining and thought-provoking than most TV fodder these days.
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I never thought SF appreciation depends on age. You don't "grow out" of Sci-Fi, you lose interest. To "grow out" of it is to imply it was childish to begin with.
I've loves SF all my life, starting with Trek, moving over to 1999, Logan's Run and so on. I was the only kid in my group who didn't see what the big deal was with Star Wars. It was just another SF film to me and franky, I liked Star Trek better.
I also like the current BSG show and Stargate. Both are great programs, the best of the modern stuff. I got sick of X-Files, found Andromeda to be horrendous and Earth: Final Conflict very crappy from the second season on.
My all time favorite SF shows are:
Star Trek (original)
Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea
Space:1999
The Time Tunnel
V
Buck Rogers
Battlestar Galactica (both original and remake)
SeaQuest
Babylon 5
Lost in Space
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sTILL LIKE SCI-FI, BUT THE FANTASY GENRE -- lotr. narnia- DOESN'T APPEAL TO ME ANYMORE.
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I was in my forties when I first started watching Stargate SG-1 (though I still prefer the feature film with Kurt Russell). The show has gone downhill over the last couple of years (is there anybody out there who doesn't hate Vala?), due in no small part to the exit of the wonderful Don S. Davis as Gen. Hammond, but I still enjoy it.
Science fiction author Theodore Sturgeon once observed, famously, that "90% of everything is crap." Well, that means that (at least) 90% of science fiction is crap, too, but if there's something of real quality out there, it doesn't matter how old I am, I'm going to enjoy it, too.
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I'm on the wrong side of 50, and I recently had the opportunity to watch the entire "Firefly" series on DVD, followed by the feature film spin-off, SERENITY. Great stuff! Though I'm not as crazy abouot sci fi novels and films as I was when I was 13 or 14, I do think that a good science fiction story is a good story, period. "Firefly" and SERENITY were minimal with the special effects but strong on story and personalities, with a first rate ensemble cast, lots of action (a "space western" at times) and also some very touching moments. Just the elements to make a great story. I hope I never get so old I can't love a great story!
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Mar 2, 2006 - 1:28 AM
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dogplant
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Yes, that was (and is) my implication.
Yikes. Have you read any Philip K. Dick, or J.G. Ballard?
There's quite a range of science fiction out there, just as in any genre. I enjoyed "Firefly," which reminded me of E.E. Doc Smith. I think the new "Battlestar Galactica" is also terrific, overtones of Larry Niven mixed with Heinlein space opera. It far outstrips it pulpy origins (which I loved as a 12 year old).
My tastes have always been toward the Dangerous Visions school of 'speculative fiction' sci-fi -- Harlan Ellison, Theodore Sturgeon, Philip José Farmer, Alfred Bester, Lucius Shepard, Ballard and PKD -- although I was weaned on the sci-fi classics of Clarke, Asimov, H.G. Wells and, still a favorite, Ray Bradbury.
I guess it's diff'rent strokes, but to me science fiction is more a genre of ideas and the imagination, not silly schoolboy stuff. And I am 42.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/hitchhikers/guide/answer.shtml
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Yes, that was (and is) my implication.
Well, then you've been concentrating on the wrong SF if you think it's all for kids. Solaris, 2001, Blade Runner, Alien, for starters in the theatre. On television, Star Trek, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits and so on.
As for literature, holy God, I could go on for pages. Asimov, Ellison, Bradbury, Dick, Bova, Orson Scott Card....and these are the guys just popping into my head.
If you were just talking about Lost in Space or Buck Rogers or something, fine, then you're referencing programming aimed at the younger audience. But to classify ALL sci-fi as "childish" is actually, not only insulting, but ignorant of the genre. If not for speculative fiction, we'd probably, as a species, never wanted to reach beyond our atmosphere. There's nothing childish about reaching the moon, or Mars or anywhere else.
Sorry if I sound like a fanatic, but classifications like this are as bad as saying "film scores suck because there are no lyrics."
You say you're well into your 30's and nostalgic for those old shows. I can then imagine you don't have much experience with SF other than Lost in Space or Logan's Run or something if you haven't watched it since. Try literary SF or some of the more recent, mature offerings. You might be surprised.
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