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I haven't even delved into the vid yet, savoring it in anticipation.
Mailer was an overly verbose, pretentious writer. I stopped reading "Ancient Evenings" mid first chapter. I knew I couldn't stand 900 pages of-- that. 
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Jul 23, 2011 - 7:34 AM
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Dana Wilcox
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It seems to me, although this only a viewpoint, i indeed could be wrong, that today all of the shouting and yelling that goes on come from the averge people with some crazy topics on talk shows, but the people with powers given to them, politicians and the like don't have the heated arguments they used to, that's why alot of people feel everything is so fabricated today.
What country do you live in? Surely not the USA! With that I will say no more, lest I venture into forbidden territory.
I love the Dick Cavett Show by the way and recommend the DVD sets out now. In particular, his interviews with Katherine Hepburn and Groucho Marx are priceless. Nothing like them since.
Cavett had to buy the videotape masters of his shows back from A.B.C. for $500.00 a pop when he found out they were going to throw them away.
Thank goodness he did! Another of the classic match-ups was Richard Harris vs. Rex Reed -- they despised each other and the back-and-forth (with plenty of sexual innuendo) was the kind of stuff you'll never see on Leno or Letterman (whose shows are chiefly promotional opportunities for stars pushing their upcoming books, films and CDs).
For those 20somethings out there, late night talk shows used to have people with real personalities (famous and sometimes not famous) who entertained and had something to talk about besides their new whatever. That died with Johnny Carson's retirement, unfortunately. Some of the early shows, those with Steve Allen and Jack Paar in particular, were positively brilliant. Cavett was in the Jack Paar mode, extremely bright and well-read, a great wit and thinker on his feet, someone who could hold his own with a bright (or in the case of Mailer) boorish guest. Carson was equally entertaining but more on an everyday person level, with less emphasis on the Mailers and Vidals and more of the Dean Martin, Bob Hope and George Gobel type guests (as well as a fascinating array of new comics, animal handlers, inventors and assorted crackpots). It seems unlikely we'll ever see either type of show again, since it's all about the promotions now.
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Jul 23, 2011 - 5:09 PM
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filmusicnow
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It seems to me, although this only a viewpoint, i indeed could be wrong, that today all of the shouting and yelling that goes on come from the averge people with some crazy topics on talk shows, but the people with powers given to them, politicians and the like don't have the heated arguments they used to, that's why alot of people feel everything is so fabricated today.
What country do you live in? Surely not the USA! With that I will say no more, lest I venture into forbidden territory.
I love the Dick Cavett Show by the way and recommend the DVD sets out now. In particular, his interviews with Katherine Hepburn and Groucho Marx are priceless. Nothing like them since.
Cavett had to buy the videotape masters of his shows back from A.B.C. for $500.00 a pop when he found out they were going to throw them away.
Thank goodness he did! Another of the classic match-ups was Richard Harris vs. Rex Reed -- they despised each other and the back-and-forth (with plenty of sexual innuendo) was the kind of stuff you'll never see on Leno or Letterman (whose shows are chiefly promotional opportunities for stars pushing their upcoming books, films and CDs).
For those 20somethings out there, late night talk shows used to have people with real personalities (famous and sometimes not famous) who entertained and had something to talk about besides their new whatever. That died with Johnny Carson's retirement, unfortunately. Some of the early shows, those with Steve Allen and Jack Paar in partic, and they never brought them back,ular, were positively brilliant. Cavett was in the Jack Paar mode, extremely bright and well-read, a great wit and thinker on his feet, someone who could hold his own with a (or in the case of Mailer) boorish guest. Carson was equally entertaining but more on an everyday person level, with less emphasis on the Mailers and Vidals and more of the Dean Martin, Bob Hope and George Gobel type guests (as well as a fascinating array of new comics, animal handlers, inventors and assorted crackpots). It seems unlikely we'll ever see either type of show again, since it's all about the promotions now.
Dana, you might be interested to know that Merv Griffin wanted to buy back all of the videotape masters of his late night talk show for C.B.S. (which aired from 1969 to 1972), but was infuriated that they erased them the day after the show was cancelled. Even Griffin admits he wasn't perfect when he was interviewed on "Larry King Live" and said that he let some of his friends borrow the videotape masters of his '60s afternoon talk show for Westinghouse, and they never brought them back.
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I found this last night while looking for excerpts from Cavett shows on YouTube. Two of the most tiresome American authors - no surprise that it's Cavett who wins the battle of the wits.
MAILER: I can guarantee you I won't hit anyone here ... because they're smaller.
CAVETT (without missing a beat): In what ways?
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As I said 2 years ago these days they just don't really go at it like they used to. It is a shame, also I can't speak for MR Mailer, but let's be honest there are small people and big people and GORE VIDAL WAS A SMALL PERSON.
In what ways?
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