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 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 3:03 AM   
 By:   Uhtred   (Member)

The first teaser trailer is up and it looks visually very impressive. I'm pretty excited for this.



Are the rest of you Bond fans excited for this or did Quantum of Solace put you off the new films?

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 3:11 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

I don't want to watch the trailer: it's FIVE MONTHS TILL THE FILM COMES OUT AND THEY HAVEN'T FINISHED IT YET. Dear Skyfall people: go away and finish making the movie rather than trying to sell it to me by giving all the best bits away. Come back when you've got an actual completed film to show me, and then show me that.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 3:45 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

The first teaser trailer is up and it looks visually very impressive. ...

But so did the teaser trailers for Die Another Day and Quantum of Solace ...

... and those films turned out to be two of the three worst (in the series of 22 to date), IMHO.

So, here's hoping ...

And many thanks for the link!

Mitch

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 3:55 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

I fully appreciate I am very biased because I really hate Daniel Craig's interpretation as Bond, and am also none too keen on the direction the Bond flicks have gone since he took the role.

But I have to say I am not at all impressed by that trailer. I watched it on BBC news this morning and have since seen it a couple of times and it just strikes me as being.... average. Bond is about action and the action shots shown in this trailer really dont look very good at all. And that tube train crash looks very fake.

Now I fully accept this is just a teaser trailer and there will be much more to come. But as of now I still have just a little more than zero interest in this film. Sam Mendes is a terrific director of character movies but has very little experiance with action. And whilst obviously the 2nd unit will take care of the action scenes it is up to the director to design them and intergrate them into the film and I think the jury is very much out on Mendes' ability to do this, certainly on the strength of this underwhelming trwiler.

I think what worries me most though is something I read recently which said that, in this movie, Bond starts out being bored in his job. That means lots of scenes of Craig acting glum which, sorry, is just going to be dull. I don't want to watch a depressed Bond contemplating his navel and considering becoming a flipping bank clerk or something.

And since I am being so negative I might as well go the whole hog and say that the teaser poster released last week is probably the most bland Bond poster ever.

Now if you'll excuse me I'll go and watch The Spy Who Loved Me again. Good ol' Rog, that beautiful tricked-out Esprit, the ski jump, a crazy plan to rule the world, a baddie with steel teeth, Barbara Bach's breasts..... ah, now THAT is a Bond movie!!!!!



 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 3:58 AM   
 By:   Uhtred   (Member)

But so did the teaser trailers for Die Another Day and Quantum of Solace ...

... and those films turned out to be two of the three worst (in the series of 22 to date), IMHO


Damnit, thats a very good point. Hopefully as the director is Sam Mendes, he will be able to make an intelligent but also exciting film. I love the Bond films too much to let Die Another Day (shudder) put me off

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 4:02 AM   
 By:   Uhtred   (Member)


Now if you'll excuse me I'll go and watch The Spy Who Loved Me again. Good ol' Rog, that beautiful tricked-out Esprit, the ski jump, a crazy plan to rule the world, a baddie with steel teeth, Barbara Bach's breasts..... ah, now THAT is a Bond movie!!!!!


I don't care what everyone says about him, I love Roger Moore and The Spy Who Loved Me is his epic best. I think I'll follow your example Mike.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 4:10 AM   
 By:   Pete Apruzzese   (Member)

Is James Bond going to be in this one finally? The last two had that same little guy in them. smile

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 4:12 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I've never been a Bond fan, but the Craig films really connected with me. I've really enjoyed the last pics he's done, and I think this looks absolutely fantastic too -- maybe the best of the whole franchise yet. With Mendes (and Thomas Newman) behind the wheel, this is exciting times! Even for a non-Bond fan like myself.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 4:23 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

But I have to say I am not at all impressed by that trailer. I watched it on BBC news this morning and have since seen it a couple of times and it just strikes me as being.... average. Bond is about action and the action shots shown in this trailer really dont look very good at all. And that tube train crash looks very fake.


Thanks for that.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 4:35 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

But I have to say I am not at all impressed by that trailer. I watched it on BBC news this morning and have since seen it a couple of times and it just strikes me as being.... average. Bond is about action and the action shots shown in this trailer really dont look very good at all. And that tube train crash looks very fake.


Thanks for that.


Sorry for that. I didn't really think it was a spoiler though.

And, with respect, I have to say, if you want to avoid anything about the movie its a little dozy coming here to read people posting about the trailer.

Good job I didn't mention the bit about Judi Dench telling Bond she is his mother. Oops, sorry.

smile

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 4:41 AM   
 By:   franz_conrad   (Member)

Well, I like it, I'll watch it. What little dialogue there is seems more interesting than QOS's script, and the cinematography is big step up from Marc Forster's film. (Which you'd expect, given it's Roger Deakins.)

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 5:27 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I came here to talk about the trailer. Instead I find the same people stuck on the same rubbish, cyclic posts they've been making for years.

I imagine theres less anal retentiveness at a proctologist convention.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 5:42 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)


Now if you'll excuse me I'll go and watch The Spy Who Loved Me again. Good ol' Rog, that beautiful tricked-out Esprit, the ski jump, a crazy plan to rule the world, a baddie with steel teeth, Barbara Bach's breasts..... ah, now THAT is a Bond movie!!!!!


I don't care what everyone says about him, I love Roger Moore and The Spy Who Loved Me is his epic best. I think I'll follow your example Mike.


And the third of the three worst is, IMHO, .... yes, you've guessed it.

I'm watching each and all of the 22 films in series prior to the new film (yes, I'm a JB007 nut) - something I've never done before - and after watching The Spy Who Loved Me I decided that this is the first of the series which, if I never watched it again, it wouldn't bother me.

It was the really low point in the series, for me, until Die Another Day ...

... there, I've said something good about Die Another Day! smile

But back to this new film/teaser: why oh why are they sticking with the downbeat, Jason Bourne style? Have they not learned anything? Do we really want to see Bond being pyscho-analysed?

Mitch

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 5:43 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

I came here to talk about the trailer. Instead I find the same people stuck on the same rubbish, cyclic posts they've been making for years.

I imagine theres less anal retentiveness at a proctologist convention.


Oh dear, people still not posting to the Rules of LeHah*. What a heinous sin.

*Wasn't that an episode of Space: 1999.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 5:54 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)



But back to this new film/teaser: why oh why are they sticking with the downbeat, Jason Bourne style? Have they not learned anything? Do we really want to see Bond being pyscho-analysed?



Mitch, I totally agree. Clearly, it isnt right to go back to the semi-camp of Moonraker but I really wish the Bond films would lighten up, even if just a little bit. The last two have been almost entirely devoid of humour and as you say have just tried to emulate e Bourne films by being gritty and downbeat.

For me I thought License To Kill pretty much got it right, with nice balance of "realistic" action, a pretty focused (but not entirely moody) Bond, a decent plot, some good jokes and one of the best villains ever. Ok so director John Glen dropped the ball right at the end with that stupid winking fish (why???) but overall I thout it was a cracking film and that Timothy Dalton really did well in the role (and I hated him in Living Daylights). I really wish Eon had used this as a template for the post-Brosnan Bonds but sadly that film under-performed on release so perhaps they felt it wasnt the right way to go.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 6:02 AM   
 By:   Uhtred   (Member)

I'm watching each and all of the 22 films in series prior to the new film (yes, I'm a JB007 nut) - something I've never done before - and after watching The Spy Who Loved Me I decided that this is the first of the series which, if I never watched it again, it wouldn't bother me.

I can see how Spy Who Loved Me and Die Another Day can be compared. Large scale mayhem and no worry about plausibility. But to me, The Spy Who Loved Me has a good balance between grand scale (the oil tanker that eats submarines) and tongue in cheek (the union jack parachute, the lotus driving onto the beach). Die Another Day took itself far too seriously and when you have invisible cars, diamond faced villains and a terrible cgi tidal wave surf complete with Beach Boys music, you could use Roger Moore and his raised eye brow.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 6:06 AM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

Just thought I'd reply to this, stir things up a little.

First of all, I quite like the Daniel Craig Bond, I prefer gritty and more realistic to campy and over-the-top, and this trailer looks more like my type of thing.

However, there are good things to be said of all the actors who've played JB, probably even George Lazenby, though I can't think what that might be at the moment wink

Each Bond has been a product of his era, taking on aspects of popular public taste at the time. I don't think a Connery style Bond would sell that well today, nor a Moore or a Brosnan. Arguably, Craig is a Bond more in the Dalton LTK mode, though as Mike says, perhaps without enough humour.

I liken this whole 'who's the best Bond' thing to 'who's the best Dr Who' - everyone has their favourite and passionately defends them. In the case of DW though, I feel my preferred Dr hasn't yet happened - I prefer a darker characterization, more long the lines of the Richard E Grant in webcast 'Scream of the Shalka'. But I also realize that's about as enticing to most DW fans (both new and old) as a hole in the head.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 6:23 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

It didn't excite me or turn me away. It just played on for 80 seconds or so. Haven't there been producer or director quotes recently saying this was the movie brings a sense of humor back to Bond? It just looks like some moody spy film so far.

And no James Bond theme? Likely they're saving the Bond theme for the long trailer down the line... but come on people. You want to sell a James Bond movie...



We'll see in November.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 1:09 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)


Now if you'll excuse me I'll go and watch The Spy Who Loved Me again. Good ol' Rog, that beautiful tricked-out Esprit, the ski jump, a crazy plan to rule the world, a baddie with steel teeth, Barbara Bach's breasts..... ah, now THAT is a Bond movie!!!!!


And not forgetting Caroline Munro getting her hands on a chopper. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

"Some men are coming to kill us. I'm going to kill them first."

Evidently Craig changes his accent from the lower class to the upper because he speaks these words (probably to M, I think) in received pronunciation. Why didn't he try that in the first film?

Where is the James Bond theme and the gun barrel logo? A Bond trailer without the Bond theme and the gun barrel logo? How lame.

I don't like that shot of Bond and M standing on the hillside with the Aston-Martin nearby and the mansion named Skyfall in the distance. A romantic shot between Bond and M? Why doesn't the old cow stay back at the office, where she belongs?

I look forward to when Daniel Craig and Judi Dench's tenure are over and done with. Their idea of Bond is wrong and offensive. I don't like what they've done to the franchise. No matter how SKYFALL is written and directed and stunted, so long as these two are in it, it's over.


Richard

 
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