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 Posted:   May 16, 2013 - 1:24 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Over-written. Over-plotted. Over-maudlin. Over-self referential. Over-steadicammed. Under-whelmed. Good score.

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2013 - 6:54 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Yet it will be a huge financial and critical success. And we can look forward to more mindless, poorly produced dribble for years to come. Though Nu Trek didn't start the trend, its been going on for decades now.

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2013 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

terrorist as villian......again?

arghhhhhhhhhh

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2013 - 12:11 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

Over-written. Over-plotted. Over-maudlin. Over-self referential. Over-steadicammed. Under-whelmed. Good score.

Over-written? Hmmm, not sure I agree with that. Under-written, yes, but then what do you expect from Orci & Kurtzman. Those two must be so inspirational to aspiring screenwriters, on the basis that if those hacks can get work anyone can.

It wasn't anywhere near as badly written as the '09 Trek, the plot of which relies so heavily on coincidence and plot contrivances that I'm suprised they didnt subtitle it Deus Ex Machina. But even so the writing on STID is still pretty bad and to me resembles more of an extended PS3 cut scenethan a proper movie.

I enjoyed the movie, largely due to some solid acting, decent FX (and 3D, naysayers!) and because itwas undemanding. But it sure as hell wasn't Star Trek nor was it even an especially good movie, just a decent diversion for a couple of hours and an interesting insight into what we can expect from Star Wars VII.

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2013 - 4:22 PM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

The big imax 3D spectacle of it was pretty great. But I was not as giddily sucked in as I was for the last one. I think I might like it better on a second viewing for certain reasons, but there are parts that will always make me roll my eyes. One thing that bugs me overall is the diminishment of McCoy from the perfect holy Star Trek trinity of heart mind and soul. Uhura is being shoved into that third spot and Bones is becoming comedy relief.

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2013 - 6:22 PM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

like others i found it to be decent JUNK food but my goodness was it really bad at moments.

not sure if this will turn into a SPOILER full or free zone but here is one bit that really stood out:

Carol Marcus in underwear....WHY?

Don't get me wrong the actress is STUNNING but I figured from the trailers that there was a REASON but literally there isn't one! She changes out of uniform and continues a conversation with Kirk and then the camera pans over to show her POSING in such a NON HUMAN pose that it BEYOND draws attention and none of that scene even ADDED to the damn thing. did the studio insist on SOME WOMAN to be half naked in the film?

and the things FORCED in...really?!

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2013 - 12:07 AM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

. . . did the studio insist on SOME WOMAN to be half naked in the film?

and the things FORCED in...really?!



I remember a similar (though less seemingly forced-in) shot in the '09 film which was misleadingly edited into the trailers and TV spots to look like there would be a love scene between Uhura and Kirk.

Perhaps part of shooting the movie involves going down a checklist of split-second shots the studio marketing department will later need to construct an effective trailer, and just hoping everything will also fit with the existing script somehow.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2013 - 12:10 AM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Why does Carol Marcus sound British? Another unforeseen side effect of the time-travel shenanigans in Trek '09, like the destruction of Vulcan, or Kirk's blue eyes, or Chekov's curly hair?

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2013 - 2:39 AM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

one thing JJ knocked out of the park... PETER WELLER!

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2013 - 3:07 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

I assume the girl in knickers and bra is for THE FANBOYS!!!! who don't get to see things like that normally! That J J, what a card!!! wink

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2013 - 4:59 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

I assume the girl in knickers and bra is for THE FANBOYS!!!! who don't get to see things like that normally! That J J, what a card!!! wink

Thanks VP, I just spewed coffee all over my monitor and keyboard! big grin

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2013 - 5:04 AM   
 By:   DOGBELLE   (Member)

I assume the girl in knickers and bra is for THE FANBOYS!!!! who don't get to see things like that normally! That J J, what a card!!! winkendquote






only if there under 35 and above 18.

what a man pig am I.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2013 - 7:26 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I assume the girl in knickers and bra is for THE FANBOYS!!!! who don't get to see things like that normally! That J J, what a card!!! wink

LOL- well that was a good trick in the 60's and 70's, but today we have, you know the internet?

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2013 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Over-written. Over-plotted. Over-maudlin. Over-self referential. Over-steadicammed. Under-whelmed. Good score.


But it sure as hell wasn't Star Trek nor was it even an especially good movie, just a decent diversion for a couple of hours and an interesting insight into what we can expect from Star Wars VII.


This was my reaction too Mike. It is entertaining, but I feel like watching The Voyage Home to cleanse the mind. Star Trek 4 is (comparatively) character driven art house drama, next to this one.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2013 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

Haven’t seen it yet, plan to do so Memorial Day weekend or if it rains this weekend. With STID and IM3 kicking off the blockbuster season, how willing will today’s typical audience member be to endure character development in a blockbuster action flick? Nowadays, it seems to me that character development is confined to the “winter drama season” movies. TV can do much to help, but “less talk more action” more eye candy, is what most seem to want now. I don’t think there’s too much concern about winning over us old Star Trek fans is there? I have to grudgingly admit it, but Roger Waters had it right – “Who cares what it’s about as long as the kids go!”. Just sayin’.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2013 - 1:32 PM   
 By:   Michaelware   (Member)

Brilliant. Loved 2009, this one is better!

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2013 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Brilliant. Loved 2009, this one is better!

It is probably the best film I have seen this year, for sure better than IM3, but not classic Trek.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2013 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Over-written. Over-plotted. Over-maudlin. Over-self referential. Over-steadicammed. Under-whelmed. Good score.

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It is entertaining, but I feel like watching The Voyage Home to cleanse the mind. Star Trek 4 is (comparatively) character driven art house drama, next to this one.


well, there is a reason it was the most successful of all the TREK films - IT'S LIKE THE SERIES!
ST was never conceived as an action/adventure show - though there are plenty of space battles -
it's an IDEAS show.

brm

psm so what about the lens flares
wink

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2013 - 3:35 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Box Office Mojo Report:

Friday Update: Star Trek Into Darkness earned $11.5 million yesterday, which adds up to a $13.5 million total when including its Wednesday night IMAX showings. That figure is less than half of what 2009's Star Trek had earned through its first full day ($30.9 million), and is also less than half of past Thursday in May openers like The Matrix Reloaded ($37.5 million) and Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones ($30.1 million).

This would normally be cause for panic, though it's possible that most audiences just weren't aware that the movie was opening on Thursday (Paramount just made this change last week, and some of the messaging still says it opens on Friday). Still, a four-day total north of $100 million now looks like a stretch.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2013 - 4:25 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

an interesting insight into what we can expect from Star Wars VII.

I doubt it. Directed by J.J. Abrams, sure, but I predict it will be a much more controlled production than the Star Trek properties, where Abrams probably had more or less free reign. Probably the Marvel/Avengers films provide at least as good an idea of what to expect from the Star Wars franchise as the Star Trek films.

 
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