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 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 10:20 PM   
 By:   barryfan   (Member)

I am talking about GOOD melodrama here.

Before the Devil Knows Your Dead, Vertigo, and A Portrait in Black are good examples.

I am looking for something where:

1. the characters are full of angst, remorse

2. the story is STRONG

3. you care what is going on


Can you think of any?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 10:59 PM   
 By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member)

THE FOUNTAINHEAD

Gary Cooper, Patricia Neal, Raymond Massey & Henry Hull.

1949.

I defy you to find more angst!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 12:51 AM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

Thats easy --

one of my favorite films --

IMITATION OF LIFE (1958) directed by Douglas Sirk

Angst , remorse, you name it -- all there and more --

many of today's audience probably would just laugh at the rampant emotionalism -- but for me, it is the masterpice of melodrama -

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 5:03 AM   
 By:   barryfan   (Member)

Douglas Sirk was the Godfather of melodrama. Good choice!

 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 6:05 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Three of my favorites:

Children Of A Lesser God
House on Carroll Street
Space Battleship Yamato (Japanese's know angst!)

 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 7:18 AM   
 By:   random guy   (Member)

majority of the Tyler Perry movies i've sat through

 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   TominAtl   (Member)

Birth - lord what a serious movie

The Hours-even MORE melodramatic

 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (although most period Asian martial arts epics would qualify).

 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Gotta be The English Patient.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   BossaNova2JazzSingers   (Member)

The Bad and the Beautiful.

Lots of emoting, especially in the scene where Kirk Douglas rejects Lana Turner and she drives off hysterically (her driving is a bit over the top.)

Speaking of over the top, the title theme always raises my pulse with excitement. Wonderful score work by David Raksin.

There was always something about Kirk Douglas, Burt Lancaster and Charlton Heston's acting that seemed gritty and projected out of the screen.

I would like to add not so much the movie, (although excellent) but the climatic scene from "All About Eve" when George Sanders slowly engages Anne Baxter in conversation, then exposes and confronts her deception. And as far as I can remember, the soundtrack is not as memorable as TBATB.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

Here are a few that came to mind – I love all of them:

Johnny Guitar
Blood Simple
Home from the Hill
Letter from an Unknown Woman
The Krays
Burnt Money
Obsession

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   barryfan   (Member)

Gotta be The English Patient.

The English Patient was beautiful to look at and had an eloquent score by Gabriel Yared, but it just didn't crackle with that over-emoting I love in a good melodrama.

Think Barbara Stanwyck, Lana Turner, Kirk Douglas when they get riled up. THAT's what I love. The aforementioned scene of KD in The Bad and the Beautiful is a good example. Or even Jack Nicholson at the end of A Few Good Men.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I am talking about GOOD melodrama here.


SPOILERS!



Waterloo Bridge (1940) - girl meets boy, girl loses boy, girl shags everyone except boy, boy finds girl, girl eats truck.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   BossaNova2JazzSingers   (Member)

Another film thats comes to (my) mind is 1983 Scarface.

1. the characters are full of angst, remorse
- The characters are almost caricatures with some scenes intentionally or non-intentionally hilarious. But there were many hot and edgy Al Pacino moments, especially at the climax.

2. the story is STRONG
- The direction by Brian De Palma and script by Oliver Stone is very entertaining, bottom line.

3. you care what is going on
- No, just about all the characters are unsympathetic and despicable, which I had to laugh at except for Tony Montana's sister and mother. So I did not care one twit, but at the same time completely engaged.

 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Thats easy --

one of my favorite films --

IMITATION OF LIFE (1958) directed by Douglas Sirk

-

many of today's audience probably would just laugh ... -


I know i did, esp. when thousands of mourners turned up at the maid's funeral
brm

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

Thats easy --

one of my favorite films --

IMITATION OF LIFE (1958) directed by Douglas Sirk

-

many of today's audience probably would just laugh ... -


I know i did, esp. when thousands of mourners turned up at the maid's funeral
brm


I think that it is more like 100s -- who represent Annie's church family and friends that Miss Laura (Lana Turner) never realized she had.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 6:09 PM   
 By:   Brad Wills   (Member)

MADAME X, starring Lana Turner. She gave her all for this one.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 6:12 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

What is interesting is TV GUIDE magazine from the 50's till the early 70's would used the word MELODRAMA to describe only what we have come to know as HORROR FILMS. Then in the mid 70's the word to describe horror and SCIFI was THRILLER in that mag.So should I say THE HAUNTING THE SIXTH SENSE ETC ETC

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 7:06 PM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

MADAME X, starring Lana Turner. She gave her all for this one.

Absolutely -- despite the Ross Hunter gloss, it is Lana's finest acting in that final scene that makes this one of the great melodramatic endings. I cry ever time.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 9:23 PM   
 By:   barryfan   (Member)

MADAME X, starring Lana Turner. She gave her all for this one.

Absolutely -- despite the Ross Hunter gloss, it is Lana's finest acting in that final scene that makes this one of the great melodramatic endings. I cry ever time.


That is a good choice. Peyton Place, A Summer Place, North and South, The Winds of War, War and Remembrance are also good melodramas.

 
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