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 Posted:   Feb 3, 2011 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

First class cover James, can't wait to get my hands on this...........and the new Jarre recording. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2011 - 4:20 PM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

I see there is no new button for self-abuse !!!

Was there ever a button for that?


smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2011 - 9:51 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

Agreed! That detail from the painting by Ilya Repin makes a splendid cover.



Yes the famous "Letter to the Sultan":



... and here is what it contained:



Those were the politics of the times, before political correctness set in.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2011 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   gordonovitch   (Member)

As to the Repin painting for the cover, I couldn't agree more with previous posts. It's a fabulous image, and there's no harm in distancing the score from the not-so-good film it accompanied.

Gordon Thomas

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2011 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   Ed Lachmann   (Member)

I must add myself to the folks who love this beautiful cover art. It is perfect and adds an elegance that this score certainly deserves. Don't change a thing. I can't wait for this release. It's at the top of my own holy grails. Just worried about getting carried away driving while listening to "The Battle of Dubno" or "Chase At Night".

 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2011 - 2:38 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

As to the Repin painting for the cover, I couldn't agree more with previous posts. It's a fabulous image, and there's no harm in distancing the score from the not-so-good film it accompanied.


Yes, I think that this should be done more often. The FSM output is different: that relates in an almost academic way to the films themselves, their production, and the scores' place in that, so the film references are paramount.

But a good image like that famous painting will attract a wider curious audience and give the thing wings it might not otherwise have, in concert, broadcast circles etc.. And most importantly of all ... it makes a great cover.

 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2011 - 3:37 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

Don't change a thing.

The painting is great and works extremely well as a cover.

I know that this is just a mockup, James, but personally I would use a capital 'S' in the word "score" and add a larger space between "by" and "Franz." The use of colour in the lettering is dead on.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2011 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)

Don't change a thing.

The painting is great and works extremely well as a cover.

I know that this is just a mockup, James, but personally I would use a capital 'S' in the word "score" and add a larger space between "by" and "Franz." The use of colour in the lettering is dead on.


Yep...it is just a very quick rough mock-up for now......

I thought I might try and insert the heads of Yul Brynner, Tony Curtis, Sam Wanamaker , Brad Dexter and Perry Lopez onto the bodies?

 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2011 - 7:09 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

I thought I might try and insert the heads of Yul Brynner, Tony Curtis, Sam Wanamaker , Brad Dexter and Perry Lopez onto the bodies?

I thought the Cossack in the middle, wearing a blue hat and smoking a pipe and leaning over the letter writer, bore a striking resemblance to Yul Brynner

In fact at first glance I thought it WAS Yul Brynner!!!!!!!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2011 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   Ed Lachmann   (Member)



I thought I might try and insert the heads of Yul Brynner, Tony Curtis, Sam Wanamaker , Brad Dexter and Perry Lopez onto the bodies?


And, don't forget the head of Franz onto the guy in the middle writing the letter, big grin and all. In an odd way that would be poetry.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2011 - 6:04 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

Gorgeous cover, can't wait to hear this Waxman masterwork.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2011 - 4:33 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I'm excited!!! I've been listening to the Kritzerland issue of Waxman's album version in preparation!!!

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2011 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

I'm excited!!! I've been listening to the Kritzerland issue of Waxman's album version in preparation!!!

That album was well done.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 26, 2011 - 4:43 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

I caught up with this film on DVD -- it had been more than forty years! -- and now understand about the source music. The film has lots of it. So do most large historical "epics." But where everybody wants to hear the source music from QUO VADIS and CLEOPATRA, etc., most people seem not to care about that in TARAS. I'm pretty sure that Waxman was in charge, as were Rozsa, North, et al. So why the discrepancy? I note that most of the source music in TARAS is vocal rather than instrumental. But the same is true of QUO VADIS, and I think almost everybody would want to hear those vocals. It's a curious thing. Is there any other big historical score where listener interest is exclusively focused on the nondiegetic portion of the score?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2011 - 12:28 AM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)

I caught up with this film on DVD -- it had been more than forty years! -- and now understand about the source music. The film has lots of it. So do most large historical "epics." But where everybody wants to hear the source music from QUO VADIS and CLEOPATRA, etc., most people seem not to care about that in TARAS. I'm pretty sure that Waxman was in charge, as were Rozsa, North, et al. So why the discrepancy? I note that most of the source music in TARAS is vocal rather than instrumental. But the same is true of QUO VADIS, and I think almost everybody would want to hear those vocals. It's a curious thing. Is there any other big historical score where listener interest is exclusively focused on the nondiegetic portion of the score?

Well I will be recording next week one long "source music" cue as it is scored by Waxman for full symphony orchestra and used in the Gypsy camp sequences. Only about 5 minutes long but over 500 bars at tempo 166 .... so lots of notes!

And I have just recorded some addotional material from TARAS .... more for historical intgerest than anything else.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2011 - 1:44 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

I'm rather curious about the Finale for TARAS BULBA. The last few seconds of music on the film soundtrack are different from the LP recording, which ends on more of a flourish. Was the LP version solely intended for the LP or was it Waxman's initial choice for the soundtrack. Come to that - which version will Tadlow use!

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2011 - 2:22 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

But where everybody wants to hear the source music from QUO VADIS and CLEOPATRA, etc., most people seem not to care about that in TARAS.

Probably because genuine source music for Roman films like Quo Vadis doesn't exist. So the music is as much imagined and composed from scratch as other parts of the score.
Unfortunately, if I remember correctly, the "source music" in Taras sounds like what one might expect to hear during a trapeze performance by The Flying Putin Brothers at Billy Smart's Circus.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2011 - 2:27 AM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)

I'm rather curious about the Finale for TARAS BULBA. The last few seconds of music on the film soundtrack are different from the LP recording, which ends on more of a flourish. Was the LP version solely intended for the LP or was it Waxman's initial choice for the soundtrack. Come to that - which version will Tadlow use!

The LP version of THE BATTLE OF DUBNO is actually an amalgam of bits from other cues in the film, including sections of The Siege of Dubno etc..

Also in the actual film, they tracked in other sections of the score into the finale ...so the whole thing is a bit of a musical mess.

For the CD we have re-recorded everything as composed by Waxman, in the correct cue order, this includes his fantastic original un-used cue in the finale where the Polish cavalry are pushed into the canyon. So for the new recording there is all the music you will be used to plus a whole load of previously unrecorded cues...all in original film order.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2011 - 2:29 AM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)

But where everybody wants to hear the source music from QUO VADIS and CLEOPATRA, etc., most people seem not to care about that in TARAS.

Probably because genuine source music for Roman films like Quo Vadis doesn't exist. So the music is as much imagined and composed from scratch as other parts of the score.
Unfortunately, if I remember correctly, the "source music" in Taras sounds like what one might expect to hear during a trapeze performance by The Flying Putin Brothers at Billy Smart's Circus.


I think you might change your mind when you hear the full symphonic "Gyspy Camp" .... more akin to Sabre Dance than Entry of the Gladiators!!!

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2011 - 2:39 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

I think you might change your mind when you hear the full symphonic "Gyspy Camp" .... more akin to Sabre Dance than Entry of the Gladiators!!!

Well, that sounds a different thing altogether. Looking forward to it!

 
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