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 Posted:   Jan 10, 2018 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

...And the owners big ego trip of sending his car to Mars....

There are roads on Mars? Or did he or you mean an ATV?

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2018 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Like I said, Sol, there is a lot riding on the Falcon Heavy. Given that there will be unexpected happenings in critical fields, such as rocketry, SpaceX seems to have done pretty good for most of their customers despite someone else's rulebook being thrown at them.

Maybe Mr Musk should have held onto the BFR projections of the hopefully, not too distant future. But, if anyone can, he can. For the first time since I can remember, the idea of a space liner has been given currency. Ocean_liner, air_liner . . . space_liner? Truth is, it is currently science fiction. But for how long?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2018 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Yeah, Sol, like he said!
Just ignore whatever I wrote.

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2018 - 9:39 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Mars doesn't have roads, it has canals. Better off launching one of his billion dollar yacht into space.

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Landmasters on Mars driving down Valles Marineris (Damnation Alley?). Not sure about cigar chomping drivers, though.

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

News came out yesterday Space X is delaying it's test launch of it's manned rocket. Both the un-manned and manned launches. I'm sure recent failures are a concern and have something to do with this.

By the time NASA or an American company figures out how to get astronauts back into LEO, will be ready to de-orbit ISS! Sheesh.

One thing the Russians figured out, especially on a "no budget" space program. Don't reinvent the wheel!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Landmasters on Mars driving down Valles Marineris (Damnation Alley?). Not sure about cigar chomping drivers, though.

What?! Smoking goes hand in hand with space travel.

Chuck Heston traveling at speed of light in POTA


Moonbase in Gerry Anderson's UFO

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

What?! Smoking goes hand in hand with space travel.

Chuck Heston traveling at speed of light in POTA


Moonbase in Gerry Anderson's UFO


You win, LC.

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

The Ruskies have Soyuz, the world's most successful manned space transportation system. Like Lindbergh's Spirit Of St Louis, the ship has a periscope so the crew can peek ahead on a monitor. It has always reminded me of an insect, the world's most successful living organism - head, thorax, abdomen - though not necessarily in that order insofar as the actual spacecraft sections are arranged.

News came out yesterday Space X is delaying it's test launch of it's manned rocket. Both the un-manned and manned launches. I'm sure recent failures are a concern and have something to do with this.

Gives the others time to catch up.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2018 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

The Ruskies have Soyuz, the world's most successful manned space transportation system.

Americans like to brag how inventive we are, as if we invented inventing, but after watching Nazi Mega weapons on PBS, and knowing about other inventions we borrowed and literally capitalized upon (eg magnetic tape), I wonder how inventive "we" are. Were the German inventions part of the exchange of information across the world (as scientific theories build upon each other), or were there cultural or educational differences that allowed them to excel? We might not have a Space program without Nazi scientists we used.

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2018 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

There's no way that can really be answered, LC, because historically it was German Scientists who built the world's first practical rocket engines - they got there first. American industrial capacity is something I don't claim to understand economically or in any other terms, but the images from all theatres of World War II make me wonder how cranked up and tuned American industry was at the time - does the Apollo programme even come anywhere close to US wartime production efficiency? The same goes for Russian industrial strength required to outpace the Nazis and push them back past the starting line.

How does Boeing minimise the cost of building airliners? Their Seattle facility is parked right next to the city centre and port facilities. It's been a magic airplane factory centre for decades. For such a young country, that's a tremendous amount of burning. But I have to be honest, the true state of innovation in general is very much out of focus to these eyes. It seems that again, historically, it required imported talent to enable rockets not only to lift off, but to land as well.

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2018 - 2:18 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Best line in The Right Stuff- "Our Germans are better than their Germans." Referring to the German scientists the US and Russia grabbed after WW2.

Also Germany invented the "highway".

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2018 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Ya. For zer Volkswaggen auto to demonstrate to ze vorld ze zuperior Nazii voorkmanzhip on ze autobahn.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2018 - 3:05 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

"With the A-bomb, and with their V2 rockets to carry them, Germany captured the world." -Spock, circa 1930

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

The Falcon Heavy has had a preliminary run through of all 27 Merlin engines firing at one and the same time. I wonder how the rocket is restrained while ensuring no damage is rendered at the points where it is held down? Skip to 37:00 to see the rocket making smoke.

https://www.teslarati.com/livestream-spacex-falcon-heavy-static-fire-attempt/

News travels fast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDiJh8loTOE

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

This is so funny. The F9 has an unintended level of redundancy built into it. Oh, for the days when the F9 unintentiolly disassembled itself! big grin

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/02/amazingly-spacex-fails-to-expend-its-rocket/

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

This is so funny. The F9 has an unintended level of redundancy built into it. Oh, for the days when the F9 unintentiolly disassembled itself! big grin

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/02/amazingly-spacex-fails-to-expend-its-rocket/


Awesome video. Fun only in knowing, no one got hurt.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/09/spacex-proves-its-not-afraid-to-fail-by-releasing-a-landing-blooper-reel/

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Well, now they can see what the extent of damage occurs when the core is exposed to seawater. More data points for the record.

When GovSat-1 pushes off the 2nd stage, think Z... wink

Edit: I have a name to suggest for the retrieved core . . . "Floaty McRocketship," or maybe perhaps, "Molly Brown."

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2018 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Buzz is watchin'.

https://www.space.com/39608-buzz-aldrin-watching-falcon-heavy-launch.html

It's dark here. There have been a few resets of the countdown. If all goes well, Space Oddity gets to rock 'n Roll today from on top of a stick of 'dynamite', in less than 40 minutes.

Edit: Less than 3 minutes:

http://www.spacex.com/webcast

Scrap that. The countdown timer reset again. If the Heavy lifts off today it will probably be as the Sun is sinking below the horizon Stateside.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2018 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Something went wrong my pursuit of the live feed. Totally weird. Anyways, the launch worked by the numbers, the two side cores landed back at the Cape, but the status of the central core got completely lost in the mayhem. Anyone know what happened to it?

 
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