3 bloody disallowed goals. The last one was ridiculous - shawcross has his arm across the front of carrolls neck - typical fkn orcs grappling and shoving. There was a worse pen shout on carroll by martins indi 5 mins before that where he grabbed carroll with both arms and just hauled him to the ground. Overall we didn't do enough - had dozens if free kicks as stoke fouled us agn and agn outfide the area and we did absolutelly fuck all with them bar one decent cresswell shot. Poor really. rescuing a point is something but should never have got to that.
Sounds mean but i fkn hate stoke. I really hope that draw sends stoke down. Bastard team of thugs n orcs with their American football grappling, elbowing and shirtgrabbing -they have got away with it for years and its overdue for them to go.
Mixed feelings - I like Paul Lambert and Peter Crouch but not the rest of them. I despise Hernandez but generally like the rest of them. Should have had a penalty when Carroll was pulled down in the box. Terrible first half, better in the second half. If only the whole game had been as engaging as stoppage time...
3 bloody disallowed goals. The last one was ridiculous - shawcross has his arm across the front of carrolls neck - typical fkn orcs grappling and shoving. There was a worse pen shout on carroll by martins indi 5 mins before that where he grabbed carroll with both arms and just hauled him to the ground. Overall we didn't do enough - had dozens if free kicks as stome fouled us agn and agn outfide the area and we did absolutelly fuck all with them bar one decent cresswell shot. Poor really. rescuing a point is something but should never have got to that.
I think you're safe now anyway.
Here's Hart's error. Surely this man cannot go to Russia. Surely.
3 bloody disallowed goals. The last one was ridiculous - shawcross has his arm across the front of carrolls neck - typical fkn orcs grappling and shoving. There was a worse pen shout on carroll by martins indi 5 mins before that where he grabbed carroll with both arms and just hauled him to the ground. Overall we didn't do enough - had dozens if free kicks as stoke fouled us agn and agn outfide the area and we did absolutelly fuck all with them bar one decent cresswell shot. Poor really. rescuing a point is something but should never have got to that.
Sounds mean but i fkn hate stoke. I really hope that draw sends stoke down. Bastard team of thugs n orcs with their American football grappling, elbowing and shirtgrabbing -they have got away with it for years and its overdue for them to go.
I've hated Stoke for years. Going to uni nearby didn't help me think much more of them. Nor getting punched by one of their fans when i was 15 and trying to defend a shop their fans were trying to ransack. Other than Crouch i'll be glad to see the back of them. Been waiting long enough for it.
Apparently the England manager was at the game tonight. Who was he checking out then?
Sky kept making the point it was hart and butland. I cannot deny hart played bang average until his bad blunder 2 bad errors, poor spill and then went for ball with feet instead of hand - and butland played well and stoke have him to thank for their point.
Apparently the England manager was at the game tonight. Who was he checking out then?
Sky kept making the point it was hart and butland. I cannot deny hart played bang average until his bad blunder 2 bad errors, poor spill and then went for ball with feet instead of hand - and butland played well and stoke have him to thank for their point.
If Southgate picks Hart for Russia - either to start or be included in the squad - then there's something seriously wrong with the England set up. It's been brutally obvious for two years that he isn't good enough for England. The errors at Euro 2016 were horrible.
Is Butland much better? Haven't seen that much of him, but I've seen him drop a few clangers as well. Rumours he may be at Liverpool or Arsenal next season. I would maybe go with Pickford at Everton, he's been decent from what I've seen.
Hart, Butland, or Rob Green...one of 'em will concede a goal to Panama, just wait and see!
I'm pessimistic about the state of England's keepers in general. Our last good keeper was David Seaman and even he got beaten by that infamous Ronaldinho goal. Since then it's been a sequence of disappointment. Paul Robinson letting the ball bounce into the net vs Croatia. Scott Carson's nightmare at Wembley against the same opposition. Rob Green's mistake against the USA at World Cup 2010. Then Hart came in and all seemed well... for a time. But the cracks started to appear in Brazil in 2014... and then he looked massively out of his depth at Euro 2016.
The FA need to take a look at why we aren't producing good goalies anymore.
Right offhand, I can think of two times when Hart's been victimized by legendary goals: Zlatan's overhead kick and Pirlo's cheeky penalty in EURO 2012.
Unless you are garth crooks it isnt a revelation that england is a desert for decent goalkeepers. And that is why the media have been nonstop pouring over it. "Pickford on form but hes young isnt he?" "Hart has valuable experience" (of picking the ball out the net?) "Butland makes blunders" etc etc. There is a question mark over all of them and no clear cut candidate.
Btw burnley equalised against chelsea tonight then moses got the winner
I've mostly seen Pickford of the goalies mentioned and have usually been impressed by him. Not much of a defence ahead of him. Was hoping he'd get picked, especially over Hart.
