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 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Count me in, I don't care the slightest bit that the album program wont be included, I already own it and it has served me well for 15 years and will continue to do so! If people want it, just go ahead and buy it and support GNP! If you already have it, I don't see what the fuss is about?

I'm glad people didn't adopt this attitude with Generations because THAT album was an entirely different listening experience to the complete score and THAT original CD sounded like absolute shit compared to the glorious re-master.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Totally agree, Spymaster.

Everyone, I made clear where I stand on the issue but please don't assume Crescendo didn't try reducing the price on Insurrection to get rid of their old stock. I'm pretty sure they did, which is why it's in the ballpark of $12.99 (midline) list price on Amazon, and can be had from marketplace sellers for about half that (probably around their cost on it or maybe even a little less). That's not the price the disc started at.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

double post

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

Holy hell guys, CHILL a little. When Insurrection first came out, I was 15 and living in a small town. My local CD store had the score for what was then (and still is now) a whopping $29. I seldom got to larger cities and hadn't explored mail or internet ordering so I ponied up and bought it and loved it. I still love the score and I'm happy to re-buy the score in its expanded issue.

Film score labels can't win on releases like this. Had GNP included the album as a second disk, another portion of the board would be whinging about the extra $5 cost.

I swear, sometimes with you guys I'd almost like to see a label say "fine, we won't release this then if all you're going to do is whine about it." Show a little gratitude.

Chris.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)



I swear, sometimes with you guys I'd almost like to see a label say "fine, we won't release this then if all you're going to do is whine about it." Show a little gratitude.

Chris.


Fine, then they could go back to their day jobs like everyone else. They need us just as much as we need them.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Reading the last two and a half pages of this thread and all I can think of is that line from Spaceballs

"How many assholes are on this ship?!"

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)

Reading the last two and a half pages of this thread and all I can think of is that line from Spaceballs

"How many assholes are on this ship?!"


Just as constructive as Ford.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

[Just as constructive as Ford.

And three times as handsome!

Great taste AND less filling!

And above all, still has more content in a bad joke post than you did in a serious reply!

Look, up in the sky!

Its a bird!

It's a plane!

No, it's just me laughing at you!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)

[Just as constructive as Ford.

And three times as handsome!



That's not saying much.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


Come on, fellas, let's have a little civility here. People are welcome to criticize me or any CD or any label but there's really no need to turn it into a food fight. I've been happy to help out with the Crescendo CDs lately and hope people like the results.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

Come on, fellas, let's have a little civility here.

Lukas


Hey, could you post this in every thread? Thanks.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

dp

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 11:03 AM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

Reading the last few pages of this thread, it's no wonder some past members have left this place.

Poster: "I want this! I want this! I want this!"
Label: "Okay, we're releasing it now."
Poster: "Boo! You guys suck! Fail! Fail!"

Some people will just bitch about anything.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 11:03 AM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)


"Captain_Avis"
Film score labels can't win on releases like this. Had GNP included the album as a second disk, another portion of the board would be whinging about the extra $5 cost.


Truth be told.

Not surprised this thread exploded like the two Son'a ships did in the movie by the Enterprise just a few hours after posting last night.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yes, I do think some chilling is in order. Our old Insurrection album isn't being taken away from us, and on top of it we're now getting the complete score as heard in film, plus some extras, in great sounds. Let's celebrate!

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   Miles (MerM)   (Member)

Yes, I do think some chilling is in order. Our old Insurrection album isn't being taken away from us, and on top of it we're now getting the complete score as heard in film, plus some extras, in great sounds. Let's celebrate!

Yavar


Exactly! And I'm grateful to Lukas and GNP for not tacking an extra $5-10 onto the price.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

Hi Gang - hope everyone loves the new Insurrection CD from Crescendo. Just a heads up to KEEP your original CD for the album program, and the few album edits/takes that are unique to that disc—it's still in print and sounds great, which is why the new disc is a 1 (and not 2) disc set. The new album is a unique program of the score as heard in the film, plus some extras.

Lukas


Very Happy to hear about this. One disc is enough for me. :-)

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   tex1272   (Member)

I'm excided to be getting this, but it's kind of sad too. Will it be Crescendo's final expanded TREK offering?

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Well, it's not much to go on, but take a look at what Lukas just said in this thread:
"No extended liners for BOBW, features only.

lk "

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=96180&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=2&r=746#bottom

By saying "features only" perhaps that implies future Star Trek TV releases might come from GNP? I know LaLaLand seems to have that area covered, but in addition to Best of Both Worlds, for which GNP recently released a complete & remastered edition, GNP also has rights in perpetuity to all the other Star Trek pilot scores with the exception of Enterprise (which is Decca).

So it's possible we might see a complete/remastered Voyager: Caretaker, Deep Space Nine: The Emissary, or The Next Generation: Encounter at Farpoint from them. I wouldn't be all that excited for new versions of the DS9 or Voyager pilot scores myself (unless perhaps there are any session alternates of Goldsmith's Voyager theme they could include...but I'm a nutty Goldsmith completist). The DS9 one is a bit better over all but both of those were strictly in the Berman wallpaper music era IMO.

Now McCarthy's Encounter at Farpoint, on the other hand...it has the biggest potential for sound improvement, it's from before McCarthy's Trek scores became completely boring (Bob Justman was in charge of music at the time), and it's probably missing more significant music than the other two pilots. I'd definitely spring for that (the packaging, like the sound, of the original release is pretty rough and I'd welcome new liner notes too).

On the other hand, ST: TNG of all the Trek series is perhaps over-exposed (to the point that LLL's "Vol. 1" didn't sell nearly as well as they expected) so that may reduce the chances of GNP bothering with stuff beyond Best of Both Worlds -- who knows? (Answer: probably Lukas)

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2013 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I'm excided to be getting this, but it's kind of sad too. Will it be Crescendo's final expanded TREK offering?

There's nothing else. They only did three of the films, the rest of the Trek films are done except for Nemesis, which is owned by Varese, so only they can do it.

"The Best of Both Worlds" is done.

We have the complete TOS scores now, so that's all done.

LLLR's ST:TNG said "Volume 1", implying that that possibly we might get another, so TNG is in LLLR's court.

And LLLR has said they're doing Enterprise (should be this year) and Voyager (2014).


There's no more Trek for them to do.


There are, however, other non Trek scores for them to handle...
(please oh, please, oh please, a set of "Quantum Leap")

 
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