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 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 4:43 PM   
 By:   Olivier   (Member)

Just to let you guys know we are getting your requests and the server is sending them out as quickly as they can. The response has been overwhelming. We are very excited about this massive endeavor. If you do not receive an email confirmation just email us at:
info@lalaland-ent.com
and I will persoanlly confirm your request. smile
MV


Done.
Thanks!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

One of the burning questions I'd like to see answered in Jeff's new "booklet" is about the second season arrangement of the Main Title (made to accommodate expanded titles length) and if Courage actually returned to Desilu to conduct the session. Though it is documented that Courage had no involvement with the second season music (probably because of the Roddenberry theme lyric debacle), the Fred Steiner article featured in "Wonderful Inventions" includes a few pages from the new arrangement, and in Courage's "hand."

Double Check: Yep. On "Inventions" page 296 the first photocopied page of the score carries with it the superscription "Main Title (Revised)" with 67-8 added in magic marker. Look closely at the upper right hand corner of this page and you can just make out the autograph, A. Courage BMI.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

God damn it, I still cannot place an order via that e-mail portal.

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 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   tex1272   (Member)

I'm guessing it will have the replacement cues used for the VHS edition of "The City on the Edge of Forever"?


Ooh! That's a good question.

They're awful, of course, but if the re-recording of the Main Title theme from the DVDs is included, well . . .


I actually forgot about "Goodnight Sweetheart"! But the cues that replaced the scenes when Edith tripped on the stairs and when she was killed were pretty bad. In Phil Farrand's Nitpickers guide he speaks of those newer cues as sounding like something from an old time radio show fitting in well for the 1930s but distractingly awful.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

One of the burning questions I'd like to see answered in Jeff's new "booklet" is about the second season arrangement of the Main Title (made to accommodate expanded titles length) and if Courage actually returned to Desilu to conduct the session. Though it is documented that Courage had no involvement with the second season music (probably because of the Roddenberry theme lyric debacle), the Fred Steiner article featured in "Wonderful Inventions" includes a few pages from the new arrangement, and in Courage's "hand."

Yes, Courage did conduct a session of the theme and library music (some newly composed Courage material, some re-recorded first-season cues by Courage, Steiner, Fried) in spring 1967 for the 2nd season.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


No, we are NOT including the ghastly replacement music from City of on the Edge of Forever's early video release, before they cleared up their synch license for "Goodnight, Sweetheart."
Incidentally would you believe these low-budget redos were by...J. Peter Robinson? They were!

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 5:28 PM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

One of the burning questions I'd like to see answered in Jeff's new "booklet" is about the second season arrangement of the Main Title (made to accommodate expanded titles length) and if Courage actually returned to Desilu to conduct the session. Though it is documented that Courage had no involvement with the second season music (probably because of the Roddenberry theme lyric debacle), the Fred Steiner article featured in "Wonderful Inventions" includes a few pages from the new arrangement, and in Courage's "hand."

Yes, Courage did conduct a session of the theme and library music (some newly composed Courage material, some re-recorded first-season cues by Courage, Steiner, Fried) in spring 1967 for the 2nd season.

Lukas


Thanks, Lukas.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 5:28 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Incidentally would you believe these low-budget redos were by...J. Peter Robinson?
kinda makes sense.

Lukas, I dont know if you were there, but how was the audience reception to the news of the music?
I thought I saw the CD set opened (in the video? in a dream last night?). Any pics of it?

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 5:41 PM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

I'm just pleased they didn't try to lumber us with Star Trek equivalents of fall-apart zoetropes and mp3 USB drives with Mr. Spock's head on them, adding an extra couple of hundred to the cost.

To tell the truth a USB drive with the contents of all the 15 discs would be extremely useful and appreciated.
Regardless of a Mr. Spock's head or Federation icon shape, it shouldn't raise the price that much.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 5:46 PM   
 By:   TM2-Megatron   (Member)

To tell the truth a USB drive with the contents of all the 15 discs would be extremely useful and appreciated. Regardless of Mr. Spock's head or Federation icon shape, it shouldn't raise the price that much.

It would save us the trouble of ripping 15 discs, I suppose, but personally I'd rather (if they were to include a flash drive) they forget about CD quality and include 24-bit/96kHz versions. That'd be a real treat, rather than just saving me 35 or 40 minutes or ripping time.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 5:49 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Audience reception to the news was quite enthusiastic--we were in a very large room, maybe about a fifth or a quarter full. That might not sound like much but in my conversations with people at the convention it was very unclear whether there would be anyone there interested in the music release at all. But we did get applause immediately when the video presentation put the box set title onscreen and applause afterwards--the people who were there were very excited and it was great to see. And it seems like the set announcement has generated a lot of enthusiasm on message boards (even on youtube!) and LLL is very happy with the "pre-preorder" response so far.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 6:00 PM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

Hi Jeff,

Were you guys able to find copies of the contractor's reports? When I was doing article research on studio brass players featured in sixties TV music I was told by the AFM archivist that the reports (listing the session players) for the two pilots and the first two seasons could not be found. Would be curious to know this as the third season "Trek" scores, to my ears, have a markedly different horn sound than in the previous seasons (especially in the opening title fanfare), but wasn't sure if this was because different players were employed or because changes in late sixties recording technology helped to create that impression.

Thanks.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 6:26 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


Yes, we have all AFM session player lists (except Tribbles—that one could not be found) and will run the player names in the booklet.

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 6:41 PM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

Yes, we have all AFM session player lists (except Tribbles—that one could not be found) and will run the player names in the booklet.

Lukas


Fantastic, Lukas.

BTW: In my research on Fielding sessions of the period, he employed many of the same musicians for "Hogan's Heroes," "Shane," and "Run, Buddy Run" that he did on ST:TOS "Spectre of the Gun" (because he had his "sound"). It's a good bet that both "Tribbles" and his MI score "The Council" (recorded for Desilu-Paramount around the same time in early-Fall '67) utilized many of these players.

A little "exchange FYI" for you.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 7:08 PM   
 By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member)

One of the burning questions I'd like to see answered in Jeff's new "booklet" is about the second season arrangement of the Main Title (made to accommodate expanded titles length) and if Courage actually returned to Desilu to conduct the session. Though it is documented that Courage had no involvement with the second season music (probably because of the Roddenberry theme lyric debacle), the Fred Steiner article featured in "Wonderful Inventions" includes a few pages from the new arrangement, and in Courage's "hand."

One of the things we learned on this set was that Courage wrote a bunch of library cues for the second season (including the fight music heard in Mirror, Mirror). These were recorded in June of 1967, and I think the orchestral track for the main title was recorded that day, too.

Neil

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 7:18 PM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

One of the burning questions I'd like to see answered in Jeff's new "booklet" is about the second season arrangement of the Main Title (made to accommodate expanded titles length) and if Courage actually returned to Desilu to conduct the session. Though it is documented that Courage had no involvement with the second season music (probably because of the Roddenberry theme lyric debacle), the Fred Steiner article featured in "Wonderful Inventions" includes a few pages from the new arrangement, and in Courage's "hand."

One of the things we learned on this set was that Courage wrote a bunch of library cues for the second season (including the fight music heard in Mirror, Mirror). These were recorded in June of 1967, and I think the orchestral track for the main title was recorded that day, too.

Neil


Thanks for this, Neil.

I love the "Fight on the Captain's Theme" cue used in "Mirror, Mirror." Incidentally, Fred Steiner used this same theme (a tune that figures prominently in Courage's first season scores, though it first appeared in "Gone Before") in the final cue of "Charlie X," "Finale," which is referred to on Steiner's score as Courage's "Captain's B.O. Theme." Have no idea what the "B.O." stands for but am certain if anyone knows about this, Jeff does.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 8:43 PM   
 By:   Peter Atterberg   (Member)

Wasn't the Ron Jones Box for The Next Generation around 150 dollars? I assume this will be around that too. Either way I don't have the money to buy this, but this is a monumental release in film scoring history and for those who can afford it, eat this one up. This'll be worth A LOT in the future, especially as a collector's item.

This is the genesis of Star Trek music right in front of our very eyes ladies and gentlemen.

Edit: Just realized the price was already listed, so scratch what I say.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 8:46 PM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

I'm fairly certain that I'll pick this up, especially given the surprisingly reasonable price. Out of curiosity though, are you folks looking at licensing individual disks to ITunes like with the Ron Jones set?

Cheers,

Chris.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 9:20 PM   
 By:   Perky_Norm   (Member)

Just logged in as I woke up from a nightmare (5am in the UK here) to this awsome news - can't believe this release is finally happening! Damnit I demand more nightmares if this is the result razz

Abolutely stunned and thrilled by this news - never thought I'd see the day!

Saving already wink

THANK YOU La-La Land and everyone involved! Been dreaming about a set like this since the mid 80s! Hope orders to the UK will be very well packed wink

Hoping one of my favourite Trek musical moments is included - always loved the wistful/stately trumpet fanfare which plays in The Cloudminders when they first see the floating city, and Spock comments on it. Beautiful. Looking forward to the music from Metamorphosis too. Heck it's all good!

What a year for Trek releases! Happy happy joy joy big grin

Now to attempt to get back to sleep... But perhaps I'll watch that LLL Trek video One. More. Time! wink

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2012 - 9:41 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Hoping one of my favourite Trek musical moments is included - always loved the wistful/stately trumpet fanfare which plays in The Cloudminders when they first see the floating city, and Spock comments on it.


Borrowed from Steiner's "Who Mourns for Adonais?" score, I think.

--Which begs the question: was it edited in from the second season recording sessions, or was it re-recorded for use in this third season episode?

Soon all such questions will be answered!

 
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