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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19      General Discussion: LA LA LAND: TITANIC    FIRST   PRIOR   14 15 16 17 18    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Jan 11, 2018 - 10:45 PM     By:   GoblinScore   (Member) Also something somewhere about engineer Shawn Murphy gasping at the idea of using synths instead of a real choir... ...and of course Titanic was his last Horner score he recorded. While I'm here....realllllly? True? Hmmm, I don't want to check, cds are in other room, but very interesting!    Posted:   Jan 11, 2018 - 11:14 PM     By:   Avatarded   (Member) That Titanic was the last time Horner and Murphy worked together is true - Simon Rhodes took over from Deep Impact, Mask of Zorro, Back To Titanic and onward for the rest of Horner's career. As for his being against the use of synths, I have no idea where that came from but I remember reading it somewhere. For all I know it was just random internet gossip. No clue. I guess one option Horner could have done was to layer Sissel's own voice in the same manner Enya overdubs her own, and Horner did that twice before to good effect in the main / end title of Patriot Games and Annie Lennox's voice on the end credits of Apollo 13.    Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 5:12 AM     By:   Amer Zahid   (Member) That Titanic was the last time Horner and Murphy worked together is true - Simon Rhodes took over from Deep Impact, Mask of Zorro, Back To Titanic and onward for the rest of Horner's career. As for his being against the use of synths, I have no idea where that came from but I remember reading it somewhere. For all I know it was just random internet gossip. No clue. I guess one option Horner could have done was to layer Sissel's own voice in the same manner Enya overdubs her own, and Horner did that twice before to good effect in the main / end title of Patriot Games and Annie Lennox's voice on the end credits of Apollo 13. For me the use of Synthesized Chorus sounded much in the vein of new age experimentation going on during that era. Enya's own music had a similar vibe including the song for Far and Away OST which was probably used as a temp for Leaving Port and related sequences. Do we know why Shawn Murphy didn't ever work again after TITANIC with James Horner ? Apparently Horner didn't work with Eric Tomlinson again after the ALIENS sessions; where there were some problems which he faced with him in particular.    Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 11:31 AM     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member) Do we know why Shawn Murphy didn't ever work again after TITANIC with James Horner ? According to his IMDb credits, no.    Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 11:43 AM     By:   Henry Jones   (Member) IIRW, there was a schedule conflict for Murphy. John Williams was about to hire him, for Saving Private Ryan I think, and Horner wanted him for Deep Impact. Murphy declined, so Horner started to collaborate with Simon Rhodes.    Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 1:21 PM     By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member) Do we know why Shawn Murphy didn't ever work again after TITANIC with James Horner ? According to his IMDb credits, no. According to every Horner score sounding like total washed-out garbage after Titanic, as well.    Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 2:25 PM     By:   Spymaster   (Member) According to every Horner score sounding like total washed-out garbage after Titanic, as well. I'm not a fan of Simon Rhodes I must admit.    Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 2:35 PM     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member) According to every Horner score sounding like total washed-out garbage after Titanic, as well. The Zorro scores sound like total washed-out garbage to you? I think they sound great! Yavar    Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 4:34 PM     By:   Kylo Ren   (Member) Finally received my set today, and I'm ecstatic, bravo La-La Land! I've been waiting to sit down and listen to the entirety of this score since 1997. With this and the upcoming Buffy release they've officially become my favorite label.    Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 7:54 PM     By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member) According to every Horner score sounding like total washed-out garbage after Titanic, as well. The Zorro scores sound like total washed-out garbage to you? I think they sound great! Yavar It was just the beginning of their relationship, so there were some kinks to be ironed out before it seemed like neither of them truly cared what the albums sounded like. I still enjoy Zorro, but it definitely doesn't sound as good as the same score would have with Murphy.    Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 9:31 PM     By:   townerbarry   (Member) Do we know why Shawn Murphy didn't ever work again after TITANIC with James Horner ? According to his IMDb credits, no. And Ron Howard never worked with Horner again after...The Missing..in 2003. I always heard that Howard and Horner squabbled over how the music should sound.    Posted:   Feb 9, 2018 - 8:01 PM     By:   TerraEpon   (Member) Actually, I Salonistri's film version of "Alexander's Ragtime Band" is also missing from the La-La Land set. Instead there's a piano solo version of that track. The film version is on BtT though. Actually I wonder about that. Listening through headphones, I can just /barely/ detect the other instruments in there, as if they are for some reason mixed as low as possible. So like, it's the same recording, just for some reason only the piano shows up. Would love to hear from LLL as to why this might be? But besides that, I absolutely love disc 4. I eat up these kind of arrangements. Of course the other three discs are the 'meat' but I've very happy for the comprehensive archive of these arrangements as well.    Posted:   Feb 10, 2018 - 3:43 AM     By:   jamesluckard   (Member) Did anyone ever do up one of those handy spreadsheets of where the cues appear in the finished film? I know it would be a challenge, since many of the cues as recorded were edited beyond recognition, but I'd like to assemble my own mix that roughly approximates film order.    Posted:   Feb 10, 2018 - 5:29 AM     By:   DeputyRiley   (Member) Did anyone ever do up one of those handy spreadsheets of where the cues appear in the finished film? I know it would be a challenge, since many of the cues as recorded were edited beyond recognition, but I'd like to assemble my own mix that roughly approximates film order. Yeah, there's a few spreadsheets earlier in this thread, one of them is the one you're looking for. I think it was Colonial Marine and Kev McGann that did them (?).    Posted:   Feb 10, 2018 - 8:28 AM     By:   Avatarded   (Member) I don't have a spreadsheet, but I have Paramount's official cue sheet from 1998 which says exactly how long each piece of music is used and the moment on screen it begins.    Posted:   Feb 10, 2018 - 9:48 AM     By:   bobaf2   (Member) I don't have a spreadsheet, but I have Paramount's official cue sheet from 1998 which says exactly how long each piece of music is used and the moment on screen it begins. Sweet! Where's the full document at? Would love to see!    Posted:   Feb 10, 2018 - 10:41 AM     By:   TheyShootHeScores   (Member) That's pretty cool Avatarded! I didn't realize that a detailed cuesheet like this would even exist. A couple take-aways I have: 1) Is it a standard process for the entire film edit of a movie to be documented to this level of detail? I'm assuming during the editing process Cameron would have been actively moving things around and layering on cues from all over the score where he saw fit. I wonder if all these details would be documented while they were occurring, or if this cuesheet is the result of a final step where somebody had to review all the changes that Cameron created and try to document the results after the dust settled. That would have been quite a job! 2) Thats interesting that there is a revision date of 2009 on the cuesheet. 3) The cuesheet makes note of the film mix using the cue "2 1/2 Miles Down - Revised" at the beginning of the movie. At first I was thinking this might refer to 2 1/2 Miles Down (Alernate) from the LaLaLand release, but I don't think that would make sense since the rhythmic bass line doesn't appear until later in the wreck sequence. I wonder if this refers to yet another version of the cue that is unreleased? 4) Curious what the "inst bkg / voc hum" column refers to. Instrumental backing / vocal hum? There is one film mix mystery I am still trying to figure out, not sure if your cuesheet might be able to help. In the film version of "An Ocean of Memories", as the scene transitions from the wreck to the 1912 hallway there is an early buildup of strings that seems to match the pitch of the final note of "Rose" just before the cue switches to "Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave". When isolating the rear channels of the Bluray, it sounds like the very beginning of "An Ocean of Memories" is layered onto the track at that point too, but I can't tell for sure and I'm not sure what part it would be. The beginning of "An Ocean of Memories" definitely starts as soon as the transition to the bright hallway is complete, but it almost sounds like it starts earlier in the cue as well. I am just curious what is actually happening there since I have been able to recreate the rest of that film edit. This is probably too detailed to appear on the cuesheet but thought I'd check.    Posted:   Feb 10, 2018 - 11:54 AM     By:   Avatarded   (Member) Very interesting.    Posted:   Feb 10, 2018 - 1:20 PM     By:   TheyShootHeScores   (Member) Awesome, thanks! Well that solves the mystery, the string buildup during the transition from the wreck to the 1912 hallway is from "Relics & Treasures". Never would have guessed! Thanks again!    Posted:   Feb 10, 2018 - 5:15 PM     By:   jamesluckard   (Member) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qHRsZhP7wnRyV_lXymTJw6mVHZ2zO117/view?usp=sharing AMAZING!!!!!!!! Thank you so much!!!!!!!!     General Discussion: LA LA LAND: TITANIC    << < 14 15 16 17 18  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19

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