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 Posted:   Feb 5, 2014 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Tx,

I guess today is your lucky day? Well, February 25th will be your lucky day...

 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2014 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

I had an earlier release of The Blue Max and I honestly didn't think much of it, despite everyone saying it was one of Goldsmith's best scores. So I hesitated a long time before I saw the oop Intrada on EBay for a very low starting bid, and I ended up the only person bidding on it. I wouldn't have believed it was the same soundtrack. One version bland and dull, the Intrada definitely one of Goldsmith's best.
I am so tired of the lame liner notes that seem a requirement for all Goldsmith disks. I'm pretty sure that the only people in the world buying these things are Goldsmith fans, with maybe 1 in 100 buying it simply because they heard the soundtrack in the film and thought it was dynamite and they had to have it. Hey, it could happen, I guess.
But it's always the same two paragraphs for each cut, one describing what happened in the movie, then something about the tempo and the instruments and blah blah blah. Does anyone really care? The famous Goldsmith trumpet player died last year. Did anyone ever ask him what he thought of the music he was playing, what it was like to work with Goldsmith? Why do we never hear from the musicians, from Alex Courage on arranging, or from anyone with anything interesting to say? What did they think of the music? What were the challenges? What was it like to play kitchen pots? Did they think what they were doing was anything out of the ordinary? What was Goldsmith like to work with? What does Alex Courage do? I know it's hard, getting off the chair and actually doing some interviewing or research, but so many of these people are being lost to the world, and there's so much they could tell us. If anyone's actually interested.


Dude, with all due respect, it is first and foremost about the music. Track titles and descriptions are helpful reminders of where the music appears in the movie.

What the instrumentalists thoughtabout playing the music is for another venue, entirely.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2014 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   Weyoun   (Member)


What the instrumentalists thoughtabout playing the music is for another venue, entirely.


I disagree somewhat. I often find the track-by-track breakdowns in score liner notes to be dreadfully dull and offer just matter of fact descriptions of the score and the film at those points. I do get that others enjoy these aspects of the release though. I would love to see more discussion of the music as it relates to other scores being composed about that time and any unique performances and instrumentation. LLL's Star Trek TMP was exemplary in this regard in that there were fascinating interviews with the recording engineers and David Newman who played on the score.

Chris.

 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2014 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   davefg   (Member)

I've just got my hands on this today. I've listened closely for the editing and dropping issues that some people raised, and to be honest I've yet to hear them. To my hears the recording sounds perfect for its age. Unless there is a MASSIVE improvement in the sound, which I doubt there can be based on what I read about the state of the Fox Masters and what I'm listening to, of the LLL edition, I won't be 'double dipping'.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2014 - 12:09 PM   
 By:   Rnelson   (Member)

I was actually thinking (and some may shoot me for such a preposterous notion) that the film could have taken on a decidedly different tone, and perhaps better, if Jeremy Kemp had played the Stachel role. I know that may seem crazy, but it would have been an interesting take to not make this character the pretty boy. I also didn't believe this man, due to Peppard's performance, came from the humble background he's meant to come from. All my opinion, of course.


Kemp playing the main character? That would have been tremendous! I agree that Peppard was just too one-note and unauthentic in the role. But it's obvious that they wanted a hot young American leading man (Peppard was really coming into his stardom at the time). I also think they wanted someone who was more easily handsome and youthful to fit the role of an ambitious, arrogant, idol whom the German people would admire and women would swoon over. That was, afterall, what he was being groomed for. Plus, I think they needed someone hunkier to be the Countess' (Ursula Andres ) boy-toy. As superior as Kemp was as an actor he wasn't the movie star that Peppard was.

 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2014 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Plus, I think they needed someone hunkier to be the Countess' (Ursula Andres ) boy-toy. As superior as Kemp was as an actor he wasn't the movie star that Peppard was.

It's a love triangle. Kaeti->Stachel->Lump of metal.

 
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