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 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

There is no indication that something will change in 2014.

"Cuore di Cane" should be one of the next. And the liner notes from Le Altre might give some information...

The Francesco de Masi series ended somewhat abruptly even if Beat said they would re-release all of his Western (there are still a few of them that are not expanded), although we still had many new de Masi releases in 2013 not in the series.

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 1:38 AM   
 By:   ajhfsm   (Member)

Thanks Bewley.

Slint how do you predict the next Piccioni?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 8:23 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

I can't predict THE next one. I just know some titles that they are working on.

Like "Toh, è morta la nonna!" and "Giovinezza, giovinezza", the tapes are there but I have no idea when they will be released.

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)


LE ALTRE is a 2-CD set!



Whaddayasay, wayoutwest? big grin


Fantastico ToneRow

69 was an amazing year for Piccioni some of my favorites

Camille 2000
Scacco Alla Regina
I Fratelli Karamazov
Amore Mio Aiutami
Colpo Rovente

Would love to find out more about these two

Addio Alexandra
Le 10 meraviglie dell'amore

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 9:40 PM   
 By:   ajhfsm   (Member)

Those are fine educated guesses slint.

TR in your scheme, is 1969 close to Piccioni's first or second peak?

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2013 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)


TR in your scheme, is 1969 close to Piccioni's first or second peak?


I consider 1971 to be Piccioni's 2nd peak.

His first peak (from about '59/'60 through '63/'64) was rather different than his scores from 1969.

Piccioni had a personal brand of big band jazz and atonality which reflected ideally a lot of black-n-white cinema from the early 1960s. But from '64 onwards (especially from THE 10th VICTIM on) there was much more vibe entering in the scene.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2013 - 1:45 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Would love to find out more about these two

Addio Alexandra
Le 10 meraviglie dell'amore


The music for LE 10 MERAVIGLIE DELL'AMORE was composed by Guido Cenciarelli under his pseudonym "Guycen". You can apparently find one track of the score on this download only album by Universal Music Publishing:
https://itunes.apple.com/de/album/original-masters-sexy-70s/id257764327

 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2013 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Thanks Stefan IMDB has Le 10 meraviglie dell'amore listed under Piero Piccioni and it is also over at Soundtrack collector Dieci Meraviglie, del'Amore.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2013 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Yes, I know that Piccioni is listed there, but it seems to be a misinformation so that maybe he was originally slated to do it, but then refused.
Anyway, the Italian SIAE lists only Cenciarelli as composer for 10 MERAVIGLIE and the score belongs to the old Italian RCA catalogue.

 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2013 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Stefan Does the SIAE give a list of films etc that Italian composers have scored for I looked it up and tried the search engine but keep getting error messages.

http://www.siae.it/Index.asp

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2013 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Yes, wayoutwest, of course you can use the search engine and find everything what you want on this site:
http://operemusicali.siae.it/OpereMusicali/musicaSearch.do?metodo=init

 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2013 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

I will look forward to exploring the lists many thanks Stefan I'm not sure why but my main PC is unable to get past were you have to click on accept the terms and conditions.

 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2014 - 8:36 PM   
 By:   ajhfsm   (Member)

Anybody listened to BEAT's Le Altre? No samples yet at SAE.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2014 - 5:57 PM   
 By:   bewlay   (Member)

Anybody listened to BEAT's Le Altre? No samples yet at SAE.


Just received it today, & listening to it as I write this - it's wonderful, very close in style to Camille 2000, the title track in particular. Some lovely stuff, especially if you're into the late 60's/early 70's lounge style that Piccioni was composing.

Cuore di Cane is next month's Piccioni release.

 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2014 - 7:24 PM   
 By:   ajhfsm   (Member)

Anybody listened to BEAT's Le Altre? No samples yet at SAE.


Just received it today, & listening to it as I write this - it's wonderful, very close in style to Camille 2000, the title track in particular. Some lovely stuff, especially if you're into the late 60's/early 70's lounge style that Piccioni was composing.

Cuore di Cane is next month's Piccioni release.


Thank you bewlay, I must have it, cannot resist Piccioni.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2014 - 7:54 PM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

Anybody listened to BEAT's Le Altre? No samples yet at SAE.


Just received it today, & listening to it as I write this - it's wonderful, very close in style to Camille 2000, the title track in particular. Some lovely stuff, especially if you're into the late 60's/early 70's lounge style that Piccioni was composing.

Cuore di Cane is next month's Piccioni release.


Thank you bewlay, I must have it, cannot resist Piccioni.


Hmm, I hope that Cuore di Cane, from 1976, does not mean we are near the end of the series.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2014 - 2:27 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Great news about CUORE DI CANE which has a wonderful Russian soprano aria which serves as a main theme for the entire score.
So there is still hope for PER QUESTA NOTTE (formerly with two very nice tracks on a CAM single in 1977), although also a bit of an obscure title, and above all for CRISTO SI È FERMATO A EBOLI from 1979.
As I wrote before, CAM has almost no Piccioni title from the early 70s which explains the upcoming release of CUORE DI CANE (which, by the way, comes directly from Sugar and not from the CAM catalogue).

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2014 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   bewlay   (Member)

Great news about CUORE DI CANE which has a wonderful Russian soprano aria which serves as a main theme for the entire score.
So there is still hope for PER QUESTA NOTTE (formerly with two very nice tracks on a CAM single in 1977), although also a bit of an obscure title, and above all for CRISTO SI È FERMATO A EBOLI from 1979.
As I wrote before, CAM has almost no Piccioni title from the early 70s which explains the upcoming release of CUORE DI CANE (which, by the way, comes directly from Sugar and not from the CAM catalogue).



Do you think there's a good chance that Beat will release CRISTO SI È FERMATO A EBOLI?
It's Piccioni, but the score doesn't fit in with the usual types of scores released by Beat.
It's more of a traditional orchestral score, without the eccentricities & lounge flavours that Beat usually favours.

I can see Digitmovies, Quartet or Kronos releasing this score, & I hope they do, if not Beat!
I'm still holding out for Tre Fratelli as well, another wonderful melancholic score similar to Cristo.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2014 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

But Beat has also released for example Trovajoli's great orchestral war score for ITALIANI BRAVA GENTE last year. So why should there be no chance that they might also release Piccioni's CRISTO SI È FERMATO A EBOLI?
The intention of the Piccioni series on Beat has been to show the various stylistical facets of Piccioni's artisty through many of his till now unreleased scores and by proceeding chronologically through several decades.
With CUORE DI CANE we will have arrived in the year 1975 and afterwards there is not such a large selection of famous Piccioni titles anymore which have not already been released on CD before. Also there are only two more Piccioni feature films in the CAM catalogue after 1975 - namely, PER QUESTA NOTTE and EBOLI - so that the chance for a release of EBOLI is there.
Probably not coupled with the wonderful TRE FRATELLI on one CD, because the later score is owned by another music publisher so that I rather expect EBOLI on a CD by itself. Almost all of the titles in the Piccioni series till now have come from the CAM catalogue. Therefore I see no reason why EBOLI also from that catalogue should not be released in a few months.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2014 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   bewlay   (Member)

Therefore I see no reason why EBOLI also from that catalogue should not be released in a few months.

I certainly hope you are right, Stefan! I would be more than happy to be proven wrong.

There is always a chance that Beat will release this score on their label, given that they have been releasing a number of scores that have showcased Piccioni's diversity & range in styles, as you have already mentioned.

Do you think it's a matter of months even that EBOLI will get a release?

 
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