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Quick question: Is there any information if more music from Leviathan might be available?
We know Goldsmith recorded it in Italy, but what about the tapes, I mean, where are they now, are the masters available or lost...
BTW, I have never seen that film, but I adore its score!
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If the complete masters for Leviathan are lost, it would be the most recent Goldsmith score confirmed lost (by three years!)
Here's hoping they survive since there's a good amount of interesting music missing still:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=110196&archive=0
Yavar
If Leviathan is lost, given the years worth of threads where the higher ups knew of missing elements, wouldnt they have stated that long ago as they have others?
That being said, given that its a Goldsmith title high on many wish lists, no longer controlled by Varese and owned by MGM who has been incredibly liberal about granting licences...maybe.
Who knows...maybe it will show up by month's end after all. LOL
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Yay for Small Soldiers!
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Damn straight, and it's what won that informal poll I held a couple years ago! (But personally, I'm even more excited for Williams's The Cowboys complete!)
First post updated. I had written:
"Small Soldiers (Varese / DreamWorks) -- Unless DreamWorks is tricky to license from, I'd be surprised if we have to wait much longer for this, as I'm sure Varese is aware of the demand for it. I recently held an unofficial poll in this forum for what Varese in-perpetuity albums people most wanted expanded, and this won by a large margin: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=114138&forumID=1&archive=0"
I wonder if this being a DreamWorks title meant more expensive licensing, hence the $5 higher price?
Yavar
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The Deluxe Edition Varese released is complete; it just needs an Encore Edition for those unfortunate enough to miss it. (Why do you think it might not be complete?)
Yavar
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Well, in my first post I'd written, "The Mummy (Decca --> UMG) -- Intrada come to our rescue, please!" -- and Intrada did exactly that! Not only have they put out the definitive complete version of Goldsmith's score, they also put out a two disc set of the complete sequel score by Alan Silvestri, which is also excellent!
What a great day for fans of exciting epic middle eastern-tinged music.  Despite some horror/suspense music I will probably program out of the complete score, this is one of my favorite Jerry Goldsmith scores of all time and though there was an edited isolated score track, it's great to have the whole thing truly complete and in lossless audio. Can't wait!
Yavar
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Quoting the relevant portion:
"Adding to Under Fire’s prestige is the fact that the album, produced by Goldsmith with longtime recording engineer Bruce Botnick, was specially devised to showcase the score as a musical work unto itself. Goldsmith wrote two standalone selections for the record (tracks 1 and 7) and after completing the recording sessions in London decided to record additional overlays and linking material in Los Angeles. The record came out so well that many of the album mixes were retroactively dubbed into the film itself.
Considering that this was -- at the time -- a high profile score, got an Academy Award nomination and the specifically recorded soundtrack album was very well constructed and featured world–renowned guitarist Pat Metheny, I have always wondered about the (for a long time) scarce availability of the score. It was released on WB LP and on CD only in Japan. It actually took FSM to release this album for the first time in the US. Strange.
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Well, in my first post I'd written, "The Mummy (Decca --> UMG) -- Intrada come to our rescue, please!" -- and Intrada did exactly that! Not only have they put out the definitive complete version of Goldsmith's score, they also put out a two disc set of the complete sequel score by Alan Silvestri, which is also excellent!
What a great day for fans of exciting epic middle eastern-tinged music. Despite some horror/suspense music I will probably program out of the complete score, this is one of my favorite Jerry Goldsmith scores of all time and though there was an edited isolated score track, it's great to have the whole thing truly complete and in lossless audio. Can't wait!
Yavar
One of your favorites...WOW! Now I feel REALLY weird I've never heard this score. Will have to remedy that.
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There are some other 80s Goldsmith scores that could use perfecting, and Leviathan in particular would benefit from a significant expansion as there is 20 minutes of interesting material still missing, but the last significantly-unreleased score from the decade has been put out in complete form now thanks to Intrada!
I had written, "The Lonely Guy (MCA --> UMG) -- A unique case; this one's been released on LP and cassette (with only a little bit of Goldsmith, admittedly) but not CD! I'm sure someone will get around to it to plug the hole in people's Goldsmith collections but I'm not sure many people are beating down doors to get this."
Well, it did take over six years from when I first wrote that, but now we have it in complete form and it's wonderful! As one of the few people continually asking for this score, I couldn't be happier. It's actually my favorite Goldsmith score of 1984 (because I have various issues with the other scores that year, even though I like parts). Just a delight from start to finish, and I look forward to seeing others revise their dismissal of this little gem...
Yavar
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but the last significantly-unreleased score from the decade has been put out in complete form now thanks to Intrada!
Didn't Goldsmith do a TV movie in 1983 called Dusty? Or is that an urban legend?
It's actually my favorite Goldsmith score of 1984 (because I have various issues with the other scores that year, even though I like parts).
You didn't completely like Gremlins?!! I suppose The Lonely Guy is much more sentimental, whereas Gremlins is more of a straight farce.
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Gremlins has some grating synths at times that really make me want to hit the skip button. I adore Gizmo’s Theme and the Gremlin Rag end credits arrangement is better than anything in the sequel score, but aside from that I prefer the more orchestral Gremlins 2 as a listen in almost every way.
Runaway might be my favorite composition of the four (and is certainly the most impressive of Jerry’s three all synth efforts IMO), but unfortunately again I find the synth sound often very grating; I far prefer the *sounds* in Alien Nation or even Criminal Law even if the compositions engage me less. I would be all over an orchestral realization of Runaway’s highlights.
Supergirl is obviously an orchestral tour de force, despite again some cheesy synths, but this is one that’s a fan favorite with others that just comes across as superficial to me, in the worst way. It’s like King Solomon’s Mines (though slightly better) in my eyes (or ears...) The theme just eras out its welcome and pales in comparison to Williams’s work IMO. I know, I know...I’m a bad Goldsmith fan.
Of the four, I love The Lonely Guy all the way through. As many have said, it’s no masterpiece. But I find it a complete delight from start to finish.
Yavar
P.S. I do consider Dusty an urban legend until someone, anyone, can confirm they’ve heard/seen it.
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Have never heard of Dusty, but he IS listed as composer on (ahem) IMDB... should be a simple matter of someone actually WATCHING this movie, and if Goldsmith has a credit, then..... there ya go! 
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The majority of failed pilots never leak. Even pilots that aired once on TV, end up never getting shown again. Don't count on somebody seeing it unless the Library of Congress has a copy stashed away and somebody go physically go there and see it.
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Gremlins has some grating synths at times that really make me want to hit the skip button.
I love the synths in Gremlins! To me they fit the musical language of the score to a tee, and help create a cohesive whole. It's a prime example of Goldsmith creating a unique sonic world for a film. And showed that he had a good sense of humor.
Supergirl, though, seems at odds with the synths, making it feel a bit cheap and unprestigous. But that was the film he was scoring, I guess. Although I like the "Phoenix" call, which works well when used sparingly.
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