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 Posted:   Nov 14, 2014 - 6:58 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

It will forever blow my mind that someone as seemingly shy, unassuming, and emotionally guarded as Jack "King" Kirby came up with all the stuff he did...it's all so--to paraphrase Stan--senses-shatteringly brilliant.



Here's some food for thought (even if one doesn't agree with its content):

http://iaincarstairs.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/the-persistence-of-spiritual-vision-the-symbols-of-jack-kirby/

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2014 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Jack Kirby was a master at action poses and interesting layouts. Seems every panel was dramatic and interesting. I didn't like how he drew noses though. His females were never enticing.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2014 - 10:21 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I didn't like how he drew noses though. His females were never enticing.

File Under: "Mozart used too many notes"

I wrote way back in this very thread how much I love me a "Kirby Woman" (and proceeded to name Rene Russo as a real-life Kirby Woman)

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2014 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I didn't like how he drew noses though. His females were never enticing.

File Under: "Mozart used too many notes"

I wrote way back in this very thread how much I love me a "Kirby Woman" (and proceeded to name Rene Russo as a real-life Kirby Woman)


LOL, never would have made that connection until you said it.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2014 - 11:50 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



WHOAAAAA in Der Extremis Department:



Others may have been aware of these previously, but we were
woefully ignorant of the treasury of insights contained therein.
We haven't been able to track down the one of The King



yet but are currently enthralled with the Miller volume
(containing all his interviews from 1981-2003). Still tyme to gift
yerself in tyme for you-know-when ...

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2014 - 12:08 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Well, I'M Excited!!! Dept.

Marvel Masterwoiks hath finally reached the Herb TRIMPE era of The Incredible Hulk! Volume 9 was released on November 25 of last month, True Believer(s)!

http://www.collectededitions.com/marvel/mm/hulk/hulk_mm08.html

So how 'bout it, Gord? Care to wax professorial on the Towering TRIMPEferno?

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2014 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

When I recall the Hulk it is Trimpe's work I remember.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2014 - 1:59 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

Talking of Herb Trimpe this was the very first Marvel comic I bought...



Sorry, I couldn't find a colour version.

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2014 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Talking of Herb Trimpe this was the very first Marvel comic I bought...
Sorry, I couldn't find a colour version.


Her you go, Timmer. Incredible Hulk #119 (Cover dated: September, 1969)

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2014 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

When I recall the Hulk it is Trimpe's work I remember.

Trimpe's work on the book ended (November 1975) a couple of years before I discovered comics (and not long after I actually learned to read; I was five in 1976). However, in looking back at those stories now, all of the elements from the Hulk loom larger in my memory with Trimpe's run than in any other time. I came of age during the Roger Stern-Bill Mantlo/Sal Buscema era yet even then I would occasionally score an older issue with Herb's art. I much preferred his time on the book, which was "mysterious" because it was the time just before I got into things. Ah, I do love to reminisce; sorry you all had to suffer through it...

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 5:13 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Marvel Masterworks: The Incredible Hulk Vol 8 page samples (they look bee-yoo-tee-full)

http://www.collectededitions.com/marvel/mm/hulk/hulk_mm08.html

 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2014 - 5:09 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Happy 92nd birthday to the one and only Stan "The Man" Lee!

Yes, we've had our "issues" with his take on Marvel history, but the comic book world would be infinitely poorer--and perhaps extinct--without his stellar contributions.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2014 - 10:26 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



Absolutmundo, Phelpsie. Whatever his flaws (which are as fabulous as his virtues, pretty much
like all us carbon-units), there are few who can be INDISPENSABLE as to their ultimate contribution -
and he's definitively (nay, try Definitively) one of them.



[ Tho he'd no doubt be the first to say his wife Joan deserves pivotal applause since it was following
HER advice to finally do what he's always wanted to do since he was probably gonna be fired anyway that
triggered his determination to do what he did. And the rest is - aw, hell, you know the Marvelous tag line. wink ] ...

smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2014 - 3:35 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Stan, as ever, is quite the sartorial super-hero himself; though that would rule him out as a film score fan since as everyone knows, all we wear are hoodies and jeans, and rarely washed at that.

 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2014 - 12:08 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

"There are No Coincidences...or Are There?" Dept.

I don't know about you, Gordo, but I always thought that the horseplay antics of...



and...



...were based on:



Well?

 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2014 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Happy 92nd birthday to the one and only Stan "The Man" Lee!

Yes, we've had our "issues" with his take on Marvel history, but the comic book world would be infinitely poorer--and perhaps extinct--without his stellar contributions.


Wow, way to go Stan. Regardless of you take of the man, he has a winning personality.

 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2014 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I've wanted to start an underground/indie comics thread for quite some time, especially in light of my recent R. Crumb rediscovery. However, I don't think you boys are interested in stuff like that. If the likes of a Marvel and DC Comics thread barely treads water on a board packed to the rafters with comic-book and sci-fi-worshiping people, what chance would a thread on lesser-known comics have? (I say this, but once upon a time even my labor of love--the Master of Kung Fu thread--had enthusiastic replies, so who knows).

Let me know what you think, fellows...(ha!)



 
 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2014 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

Seven pages of posts is barely treading water?

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2015 - 5:09 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Thought-Provoking Stuff, Even if Ya's Don't Agree Wit It aka Food for Thought for Those Who are Starving around Here Dept.

"1968: The Year Marvel Sold Out"

http://zak-site.com/Great-American-Novel/1968.html

Then there's this riposte:

"There is a magic to Marvel from 1961-1968 that really never has been as consistently replicated. I believe this has to do with not looking at comics as product as much as they are "art." I refer to art not just as the penciled page, but the whole comic as art. From 1961-1968, it really is Stan and Jack and Steve's universe. There are a few others involved, particularly Roy Thomas who could replicate Stan's style of writing fairly well.

But soon enough, Ditko leaves. Then Kirby. Stan took a few months off to write a movie. Then Gerry Conway starts writing Spidey and Thor. Steve Englehart and Steve Gerber get involved. Many new artists join. They are all talented men and women in their own right, but Marvel ceased to be an artistic vision of three men, and these new men and women pursued their own visions. That became a little jarring on titles like the FF and Thor where the illusion of change was the order of the day.

I believe that is why many who love Marvel in the 70's cite favorites like Tomb of Dracula, Killraven, Master of Kung Fu, Warlock and Howard the Duck. They essentially are the work of two-three men again and the singular vision leads to "art." Again, no illusion of change----anything could happen in Tomb of Dracula or Man-Thing (and often did).

This may be partially why X-Men and New Teen Titans and Daredevil were the top comics of the early 80's. All are the work of a great, clicking creative team with an artistic vision. No illusion of change---anything can happen----Jean Grey dies, Raven is the daughter of Trigon, or we find our Daredevil had a mentor named Stick.

This is why I think the enemy of a great Marvel of DC comic is the company crossover. Mixing up unique artistic visions, tends to blur them all together----like taking beautiful bright colors of paint together and mixing them into an ugly gray. They lose the uniqueness that makes them beautiful."

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2015 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

When they started to do movie adaptions, DC-cross overs, the Bible (The Bible?) is when it became a corporation in the strictest sense.

 
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