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 Posted:   Oct 15, 2018 - 11:25 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

2012- 4.5- 5

Sadly this film did not do well at the BO.



Well, I guess everything is relative. 2012 was the 15th highest grossing film in the U.S. in 2009. It pulled in $166 million, beating out other films that we think of as successful like FAST AND FURIOUS, TAKEN, and INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS. It's problem, of course, was that it cost $200 million to make. The producers had to be content with grossing an additional $600 million overseas (in "doesn't count", Mr. Marshall dollars). That three-quarters of a billion dollars puts the film in the top 100 worldwide grossers of all time.

 
 Posted:   Oct 16, 2018 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Fort Bowie
1958. B/w cavalry v apaches. Ben johnson plays the veteran captain who understands the indians but has to deal with a treacherous and ambitious new major who double crosses the apaches and fills them with vengeance. One of the rarer westerns where you are rooting for the apaches! Things get more complicated for Johnson when he has to fetch his commander's glamorous wife (Jan Harrison).
6.8 out of ten.

 
 Posted:   Oct 16, 2018 - 10:40 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

2012- 4.5- 5

Sadly this film did not do well at the BO.



Well, I guess everything is relative. 2012 was the 15th highest grossing film in the U.S. in 2009. It pulled in $166 million, beating out other films that we think of as successful like FAST AND FURIOUS, TAKEN, and INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS. It's problem, of course, was that it cost $200 million to make. The producers had to be content with grossing an additional $600 million overseas (in "doesn't count", Mr. Marshall dollars). That three-quarters of a billion dollars puts the film in the top 100 worldwide grossers of all time.


Yes, I meant didn't do well at the US box office. Jaws cost $7 million and made $260,000,000 in the US.
The Towering Inferno cost $14 million and made $116,000,000 in the US. Earthquake cost $7 million and made $79,666,653 in the US. Those are hits.

 
 Posted:   Oct 16, 2018 - 10:49 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

At least Solium gets it, Bob!

 
 Posted:   Oct 16, 2018 - 10:52 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I finally figgered out what Dimooch does for a living.
He is responsible for collecting all those overseas grosses and bringing them back to the USA.
smile
Brm

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2018 - 1:27 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

At least Solium gets it, Bob!


OK, I get it too. Make $600 million in the U.S. and $100 million overseas and you're a hit. Make $100 million in the U.S. and $600 million overseas and you're a flop.

No one disputes that JAWS, EARTHQUAKE, and THE TOWERING INFERNO were monster hits. But because a dollar isn't what it used to be, none of them ranks higher than #216 on the all-time worldwide box office list. And JAWS wouldn't even have that rank if (even back then) it didn't get 45% of its revenues from outside the U.S.

Phenomena like JAWS, EARTHQUAKE, and THE TOWERING INFERNO don't come around very often. If you have to earn 8x (or 37x) your budget at the domestic box office to be a hit, then AVATAR AND TITANIC were huge flops. The second highest-grossing live-action shark film ever made is this year's THE MEG. It cost $130 million to make and only grossed $142 million in the U.S. But another $384 million came in from overseas. Is it as profitable as JAWS? Not even close. But I guarantee you that the producers don't think that the film "didn't do well at the box office."

 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2018 - 5:39 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Fight!!!@!!! wink

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2018 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

A STAR IS BORN (2018) - 8/10

A perfectly serviceable version of the story. I'd rate this one slightly above the Barbra Streisand version, but below the Judy Garland version. Both Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga acquit themselves well, and have great chemistry. The big electric moment in the film comes when the two of them first share a stage. Everything else plays out as one might expect, except for the ending. That seemed headed to a rousing finale, with a Lady Gaga power ballad, but then at the last moment took a different (and more effective) path.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2018 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Articles keep saying it is the FOURTH version.
They forget THE ARTIST which is SIB with a different title!

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2018 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

At least Solium gets it, Bob!


OK, I get it too. Make $600 million in the U.S. and $100 million overseas and you're a hit. Make $100 million in the U.S. and $600 million overseas and you're a flop.

No one disputes that JAWS, EARTHQUAKE, and THE TOWERING INFERNO were monster hits. But because a dollar isn't what it used to be, none of them ranks higher than #216 on the all-time worldwide box office list. And JAWS wouldn't even have that rank if (even back then) it didn't get 45% of its revenues from outside the U.S.

Phenomena like JAWS, EARTHQUAKE, and THE TOWERING INFERNO don't come around very often. If you have to earn 8x (or 37x) your budget at the domestic box office to be a hit, then AVATAR AND TITANIC were huge flops. The second highest-grossing live-action shark film ever made is this year's THE MEG. It cost $130 million to make and only grossed $142 million in the U.S. But another $384 million came in from overseas. Is it as profitable as JAWS? Not even close. But I guarantee you that the producers don't think that the film "didn't do well at the box office."



You put too much stock in grosses not enough on attendance and staying power.i.e how many weeks at number one .TITANIC was number one for 14 weeks IN A ROW! AVATAR benefitted from $20 ticket prices.
Bottom line: I live in the USA where the monetary unit is dollars. That is what is relevant in my world.
cheers
Bruce

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2018 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Articles keep saying it is the third version.
They forget THE ARTIST which is SIB with a different title!



No article says it is the third version. They all say it's the fourth (1937, 1954, 1976, 2018). And some mention a distant fifth version, 1932's WHAT PRICE HOLLYWOOD.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2018 - 2:33 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Articles keep saying it is the FOURTH version.
They forget THE ARTIST which is SIB with a different title!



No article says it is the third version. They all say it's the fourth (1937, 1954, 1976, 2018). And some mention a distant fifth version, 1932's WHAT PRICE HOLLYWOOD.


My mistype.
My point is..... THE ARTIST is a remake that is Never mentioned.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2018 - 5:42 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

My point is..... THE ARTIST is a remake that is Never mentioned.


That's because it's foreign, and is not relevant in our world.smile

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2018 - 6:44 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

My point is..... THE ARTIST is a remake that is Never mentioned.


That's because it's foreign, and is not relevant in our world.smile


It won Best Picture dammitt!

 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2018 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Last wagon
1956.
Richard Widmark as man who kills the murderers of his indian wife and children - one of which is a dodgy sheriff - but ends up helping the remnants of an apache wagon train massacre and leading them thru hostile territory. Some decent cat n' mouse with the indians, particularly a sequence where Widmark fights hand-to-hand combat with two apache warriors.
Felicia Farr provided the glamour (unrecognisable from her later gig as charlie varrick's wife). Music by lionel newman.
7.5 out of 10

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2018 - 3:36 AM   
 By:   The Wanderer   (Member)

Scream For Help!
3/10

Tom Holland script cdirected so badly by Michael Winner it lead to Holland wanting to direct his own scripts - resulting in Fright Night. Thanks Winner! First half is a stepdad trying to kill the girl's mum. Totally ditched halfway through for a home invasion film. Completely inappropriate score by John Paul Jones or somebody? Unintentionally funny, some nice camerawork.

Spookies
2.5/10
A million monsters in a film chopped and re-edited and refilmed, making the making of more interesting than the final film.

Roar
3/10
Genuinely anxiety inducing. Lots and lots and lots of lions really attack people and slightly maul them in a film without a script and a message that is at odds with how the animals are depicted.

A Letter From Death Row
1/10
Bizarrely incompetent Bret Michaels vanity project. Not even so bad its funny.

Island of the Beast Creatures
1.5/10
Microbudget film, funny little puppet creatures, but boring story and characters.

Sledgehammer
0/10
Terrible David Prior film devoid of anything creative.

The Monster of Crater Lake
1/10
A few moments of not-great stop-motion can't save an incredibly boring and unfocussed film.

Blood Rage
3.5/10
Pretty entertaining evil twin horror slasher. Some unintentionally funny stuff.

 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2018 - 11:13 AM   
 By:   TominAtl   (Member)

A STAR IS BORN (2018) - 8/10

A perfectly serviceable version of the story. I'd rate this one slightly above the Barbra Streisand version, but below the Judy Garland version. Both Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga acquit themselves well, and have great chemistry. The big electric moment in the film comes when the two of them first share a stage. Everything else plays out as one might expect, except for the ending. That seemed headed to a rousing finale, with a Lady Gaga power ballad, but then at the last moment took a different (and more effective) path.



My favorite movie of the year so far.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2018 - 3:49 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

8 1/2 (Fellini) - 8.5/10

One of the great films about film-making. Marcello Mastroiani is a director suddenly devoid of direction, harried by his producer and actors and frozen into inactivity, having spent a fortune on a set that he no longer has a clue how to use. His doubts lead him into reveries from his childhood and fantasies that would solve his quandaries. Beset by his wife (Anouk Aimee) and his mistress (Sandra Milo), is redemption possible through another muse (an impossibly gorgeous Claudia Cardinale)? Or will he remain mired in stasis as an implied symptom of tension between the church and temptation as portrayed by another striking tableau which might either be flashback or nightmare. It only gets the score above on first viewing. I suspect it’s a film that will only become more intriguing and magical on subsequent viewings.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2018 - 5:35 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

The Life & Times Of Judge Roy Bean (1972), the Warner Blu-ray. Most reviews of the Blu-ray didn't think much of the film, but I love this offbeat western (written by John Milius & directed by John Huston). A growly voiced Paul Newman as Roy Bean is spot on, & I do find the end very affecting, plus a great score by Maurice Jarre (I'm lucky enough to have the FSM extended CD).

 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2018 - 7:40 PM   
 By:   TominAtl   (Member)

Halloween (2018)

FINALLY the Halloween that most people felt like was needed, only took 40 years. The film eschews ALL of the crap sequels that followed the original. I know some like Part 2, but given the fact that the hospital is nearly devoid of ANYONE it seems just made me cringe and LOL at times. it comes across as just another standard 80's slasher film. The rest are really not even worth mentioning, including Jamie Lee Curtis's OTHER return in Halloween H2O.

This one is actually well executed and was co produced by Curtis and Carpenter, even though Carpenter didn't direct it. But he did co-compose the great synth score, what has an upgraded sound and style to it and is once again, CREEPY. The film takes place today, 40 years after Myers previous rampage. Laurie Strode is now an estranged mother and even a grandmother and has been waiting for Michael to return. She has holed herself up into a makeshift fortress as well and knows her way around more than just shotguns.

Of course Michael escapes. In fact, this film pays homage to the original in many effective ways, including brief shots of late 70's/early 80's tv shows on television and there is even an off screen death that makes an obvious nod to the first. Michael's face is even seen very briefly and to the side, obviously much older, grayer and balder, but just as badass and villianous as ever.

The body count is high as is some of the gore quotient. Some killings and violence do take place off screen and then there are some doozy moments too. But what really stands out are 2 things: they create characters that you actually care about here and the production values, for a slasher film, are top notch.

I thoroughly enjoyed it for what it was and am both surprised and pleased at how much care they took to make this new sequel as fresh and as suspenseful as they possibly could.

7 out of 10

 
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