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 Posted:   Mar 13, 2014 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I suppose the original Rose theme (not the Doomsday theme of course which is beyond amazing, I couldn't believe how good when I watched it on broadcast) is a little too simple compared the the later three, but for me Martha's wins because it is at times quite sassy and warm. The version Martha Triumphant is especially good, at 1.05 it's at it's sassiest where it swells and really lets rip, and pure Hollywood.

Funny thing is Donna's could be even sassier given the nature of the character but sometimes it feels more of a signature repeated than a fully fledged theme, and is more comical than the others. There was a brassy version in an episode but doesn't appear on the cds.

What about the action cues? All the Strange Creatures is still probably the best. It's themes like this I miss now, not to mention This is Gallifrey, Martha's Quest (containing more than one cracking theme), The Doctor Forever, A Dark and Dangerous Dalek Night, the list goes on. It's been ages since we had this kind of stuff. Got to be partly RTD's doing. I'm sure he had a more personal interest in the music than Moff does, and boy, does it show.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2014 - 8:50 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I started listening to the Series 3 cd while posting my last piece, and I do agree it's a great place to start. It's got the best range of music, and two cracking musical numbers to boot! It's almost a greatest hits compilation and it's all from the same season! Smack in the middle of Doctor Who's best period for music without a doubt.

You also get an almost complete score from Human Nature/Family of Blood. Absolutely gorgeous, like the rest of the album, and that for Series 4. Maybe these are the peaks cd-wise?

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2014 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I've gotta agree with starting with the Series 3 CD.

I started listening to this one before I had seen all the episodes for season 3 (but after I had finally become sold on the reWhoot), and it is still my favorite. Such a crazy but coherent range of music.

A couple more highlights:

Only Martha Knows and Martha's Choice - my favorites from the Family of Blood sequence, and even though I usually avoid whistling. It is such a fine example of music written to scene with very specific and highly dramatic changes that nevertheless works beautifully as music. I'm chilled by it every time I listen.

The Master Vainglorious - absolutely the best integration of villainous electronics with orchestra I've heard in years. (Not to mention the knock-knock-knock-knock of destiny.)

Boe - along with This is Gallifrey, this piece of music just brings me to the verge of tears every time I listen, certainly because of the connection with the scenes in the show, but also because the music itself is just superb.

So yes, it's because this is my favorite season that Season 3 is my favorite Who-sic, but I learned to love the music before I saw the episodes, so I think it's a great choice for anyone who digs this kind of thing.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2014 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   Kari Tuhkanen   (Member)

I suppose the original Rose theme (not the Doomsday theme of course which is beyond amazing, I couldn't believe how good when I watched it on broadcast) is a little too simple compared the the later three, but for me Martha's wins because it is at times quite sassy and warm. The version Martha Triumphant is especially good, at 1.05 it's at it's sassiest where it swells and really lets rip, and pure Hollywood.

Funny thing is Donna's could be even sassier given the nature of the character but sometimes it feels more of a signature repeated than a fully fledged theme, and is more comical than the others. There was a brassy version in an episode but doesn't appear on the cds.

What about the action cues? All the Strange Creatures is still probably the best. It's themes like this I miss now, not to mention This is Gallifrey, Martha's Quest (containing more than one cracking theme), The Doctor Forever, A Dark and Dangerous Dalek Night, the list goes on. It's been ages since we had this kind of stuff. Got to be partly RTD's doing. I'm sure he had a more personal interest in the music than Moff does, and boy, does it show.


Yes, All the Strange, Strange Creatures is a stunner in and out of the images; the Goldsmithian rawness of it all. How did Gold come up with such an invention is beyond me. Martha´s Theme is absolutely gorgeous with its resemblance to English folk music. And I am still breathless the whole time I´m listening This Is Gallifrey. For me today´s music just doesn´t come better than this.

But I must defend the Matt Smith era as well, Paul. Just to name few pieces that are as good as any: I Am the Doctor, The Mad Man with the Box, Amy in the Tardis, Amy´s Theme, I Can´t Save Her, Abigail´s Song (surely one of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard), The Impossible Astronaut, Melody Pond, The Wedding of River Song, Together Or Not at All, Flying Home for Christmas, Clara in the Tardis, Whose Enigma, The Leaf, The Long Song, Remember Me. And Song for 50. Sublime.

Gold seems to be a composer who doesn´t content himself with repeating his former glories, but is genuinely trying to find new ways to express himself; a true artist´s mark. I can´t wait to hear what he concocts for Series 8!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2014 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   Kari Tuhkanen   (Member)

I've gotta agree with starting with the Series 3 CD.

I started listening to this one before I had seen all the episodes for season 3 (but after I had finally become sold on the reWhoot), and it is still my favorite. Such a crazy but coherent range of music.

A couple more highlights:

Only Martha Knows and Martha's Choice - my favorites from the Family of Blood sequence, and even though I usually avoid whistling. It is such a fine example of music written to scene with very specific and highly dramatic changes that nevertheless works beautifully as music. I'm chilled by it every time I listen.

The Master Vainglorious - absolutely the best integration of villainous electronics with orchestra I've heard in years. (Not to mention the knock-knock-knock-knock of destiny.)

Boe - along with This is Gallifrey, this piece of music just brings me to the verge of tears every time I listen, certainly because of the connection with the scenes in the show, but also because the music itself is just superb.

So yes, it's because this is my favorite season that Season 3 is my favorite Who-sic, but I learned to love the music before I saw the episodes, so I think it's a great choice for anyone who digs this kind of thing.


Great picks all! Boe is exquisite and the The Master Vainglorious truly inspired.

I listened the CDs for Series 2-6 before I saw the episodes (I saw Series 1 years ago and the music didn´t catch my ears then; no orchestra I presume). So in my case also the Gold´s music spoke to me first.

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2014 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   Julian K   (Member)

I don't think anyone's suggested starting with the recently released Greatest Hits-type compilation, the 50th Anniversary Collection.

The UK version is probably the one to investigate (it has four discs, the US edition only has two), and it should be reasonably priced (it retails for less than $20 in the UK).

http://silvascreenmusic.greedbag.com/buy/doctor-who-the-50th-anniversary/

Only one of the four discs is devoted to the show post-2005, but the other three contain a good selection of music representing the first four decades of the show, with its many musical styles and contributors.

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2014 - 10:15 PM   
 By:   Tom Guernsey   (Member)



Great picks all! Boe is exquisite and the The Master Vainglorious truly inspired.

I listened the CDs for Series 2-6 before I saw the episodes (I saw Series 1 years ago and the music didn´t catch my ears then; no orchestra I presume). So in my case also the Gold´s music spoke to me first.


The first series was (entirely, I think) synth, save for a real choir for the Daleks, but the series 1 and 2 album re-recorded a series of tracks from the first series with an orchestra. However, I would generally agree, beyond a few choice tracks from the first series, the music was not as memborable or sweeping as it became in later series.

I'd endorse those who suggested the series 3 and series 4 albums, plus the specials as a starting point. I also have to say that the series 5 and later albums aren't filled to the brim with highlights due to their length, but are still well worth hearing. Series 5 is worth it for I am the Doctor alone.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2014 - 2:23 AM   
 By:   pete   (Member)

Seasons 3 and 4 were the CDs that turned me into a fan, but I have my favorites scattered across all the releases.. The gems just take longer to find when they appear amongst 70-track 2CD sets.

Speaking of gems, I just came across the cutest fan performance ever of one such gem^^

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2014 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

I got super into Doctor Who last fall (gee, how’d that happen) and then I burned out a bit. And I just can’t watch Smith at the moment. (Most heartbreaking and wonderful regeneration ever.) So since I’ve recently had a hankering for Who, I’ve been watching season 3.

Wow. It is so good. I recall last fall that I was listening to the whole Season 3 disk rather than picking my favorites. I was shocked when I started to think that this might be the best season of music so far. (Shocked because there are big chunks of 4 that I love above all Who.)

Maybe it’s just CD presentation but there is very little “place holder” music in the Tennant (Eccleston) years. With Smith even though I can find tracks to play over and over and over (Mad Man with a Box, I Am the Doctor, and now - thanks to Time of the Doctor - Infinite Potential) there’s a lot that just didn’t grab me.

Also the Tennant music had so much bold swagger to it. The suite for Voyage of the Damned is just Christmas and James Bond and Robin Hood rolled into a wonderful ball.

Is Song for 50 on a CD? And did it ever appear in the show?

(That piano video is adorable.)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2014 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I think it's a simple case that RTD took more interest in what he wanted from his composer. Moff leaves his composer to it. Both valid ways of working. That's how it feels to me. There's no doubt about the Eccleston/Tennant stuff having more swagger. And I also think expanded releases of the first four series would yield more great music. I don't believe it would be like the Smith releases at all.

Girl in the Fireplace is sorely bereft of some wonderful music to name just one episode.

As for when the full orchestra took over from mainly synths, I'm fairly sure (without looking) that the notes for the Series 1/2 release state that the tracks were not only rerecorded for the album, but were used beyond Series 1. That is all but one, and they laugh about not telling which one it is!

Song for 50, sadly for some of us and to some ungrateful types (you know who you are!) fortunately, is not in the show so far, but was composed purely for the last Prom. It was Murray's birthday gift to the series and he can be as indulgent as he likes. I love it personally, however ott it might be. He's being personal for a second and he can do what he jolly well wants!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2014 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

Just happen to be listening to The Dream of a Normal Death on Disc 2 (Series 3). Beautiful.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2014 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   Kari Tuhkanen   (Member)



Great picks all! Boe is exquisite and the The Master Vainglorious truly inspired.

I listened the CDs for Series 2-6 before I saw the episodes (I saw Series 1 years ago and the music didn´t catch my ears then; no orchestra I presume). So in my case also the Gold´s music spoke to me first.


The first series was (entirely, I think) synth, save for a real choir for the Daleks, but the series 1 and 2 album re-recorded a series of tracks from the first series with an orchestra. However, I would generally agree, beyond a few choice tracks from the first series, the music was not as memborable or sweeping as it became in later series.

I'd endorse those who suggested the series 3 and series 4 albums, plus the specials as a starting point. I also have to say that the series 5 and later albums aren't filled to the brim with highlights due to their length, but are still well worth hearing. Series 5 is worth it for I am the Doctor alone.


Yeah, I know the Series 1 was mostly synth (Gold tells us so in his liner notes). I was just presuming I didn´t pay particular attention to the music because of that (my ears are not tuned to synth only music wink).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2014 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   Kari Tuhkanen   (Member)

Seasons 3 and 4 were the CDs that turned me into a fan, but I have my favorites scattered across all the releases.. The gems just take longer to find when they appear amongst 70-track 2CD sets.

Speaking of gems, I just came across the cutest fan performance ever of one such gem^^


Absolutely so. If you compile any of the Series 5-7 2CDs plus Christmas Specials to boot into one 75 minute CD each picking the favourites, the result would be as great as any of the earlier Series CDs (for me those doubles are splendid as they are).

(And yes, that video is adorable.)

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2014 - 7:20 PM   
 By:   pete   (Member)

Has anyone noticed any new themes in series 8 yet?

There was a lovely rendition of Clara's theme in the first episode, but that theme always sounds lovely^

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2014 - 7:31 PM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Start with Series 1-4, the specials series 4 5 then 7 then 6. Then some of the other Xmas specials.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2014 - 3:31 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

Has anyone noticed any new themes in series 8 yet?

There was a lovely rendition of Clara's theme in the first episode, but that theme always sounds lovely^


There does seem do be some themes developing, but it's a slow process. A slow burner, rather like Peter Capaldi for some people. There was some lovely stuff in the Robin Hood episode. Just as the script did it's best to nod to as many interpretations of the past, so did Murray up to a point. The overall slap-my-thigh jolly japes adventure was firmly in the Errol Flynn tradition, but other elements were there. The music was mostly Korngold-ish, but during a quiet scene with the Merry Men, there was a harp and flute piece that was so obviously a nod to Clannad's excellent music for the eighties' Robin of Sherwood.

I reckon that by the end of the season the music will have made itself known. And Capaldi will be well liked by most. I think he's great.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2014 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

bump

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2014 - 6:24 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Has anyone noticed any new themes in series 8 yet?

There was a lovely rendition of Clara's theme in the first episode, but that theme always sounds lovely^


There does seem do be some themes developing, but it's a slow process. A slow burner, rather like Peter Capaldi for some people. There was some lovely stuff in the Robin Hood episode. Just as the script did it's best to nod to as many interpretations of the past, so did Murray up to a point. The overall slap-my-thigh jolly japes adventure was firmly in the Errol Flynn tradition, but other elements were there. The music was mostly Korngold-ish, but during a quiet scene with the Merry Men, there was a harp and flute piece that was so obviously a nod to Clannad's excellent music for the eighties' Robin of Sherwood.

I reckon that by the end of the season the music will have made itself known. And Capaldi will be well liked by most. I think he's great.


There's some really nice music in the last episode. Gold's style seems to be developing. Not nearly as loud and bombastic. (Which frankly was getting a bit monotonous as much as I loved the previous scores) The music was very appropriate for this episode, and really refreshing. A little more mature I dare say.

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2014 - 7:43 AM   
 By:   Tom Guernsey   (Member)

I still haven't noticed anything particularly prominent that's suggesting it'll become the new Doctor theme...maybe they are doing away with that for this Doctor? Of course, its introduction could just be incredibly slow burn. There was something that could potentially, maybe, perhaps, be one in the first episode but otherwise, nothing else to suggest that it was anything more than an incidental theme. They seem to be using bits of I Am the Doctor in trails...

 
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