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 Posted:   Oct 11, 2012 - 11:24 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

So what are you waiting for, Mr. Bruce?!!!!

You have about 8-10 buyers right here, so a 75-copy pressing would be a very quick sellout, I imagine! smile


Incidentally.....for the record....Elaine Tomkinson dubbed Elizabeth Taylor's voice (probably only partially, as with Nixon and Kerr in KING AND I).....and she also dubbed Lesley-Anne Down and Chloe Franks in the film.



For what it's worth, since Kritzerland does DVDs too, I'd buy an improved version of the DVD. Sure, the movie could have been better, but it doesn't have to look (or sound) as bad as it does on video. Does it help anything that Sondheim is a close personal friend?

(And on the subject of disappointing films of smash shows, I'd love a soundtrack CD of Michael Ritchie's "The Fantasticks." The movie itself has never been released in the director's original cut, either, only the Coppola re-edit.)

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2012 - 12:31 AM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

Oh, if only Lee Remick had done this on stage as it was announced ...

Fredrik & Carl-Magnus: It would have been wonderful...

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2012 - 2:05 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)


I love the show, hated the film. Liz is completely dubbed, though I have one track of Liz in the film, before she was dubbed.

I love the sondheim shows we have live on dvd so far, except for Company, but we have a better performance of that due soon on dvd.

I would love to see Night music on dvd (but not the Lincoln Center version.
Also would love Follies, Merrily we Roll Along with the original score, and Assasins.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2012 - 7:11 AM   
 By:   Dr. Nigel Channing   (Member)

I have always wanted this... especially for "The Glamorous Life."

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2012 - 7:45 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

I've never seen the film, but 'A Little Night Music' is one of my favourite musicals by Sondheim. I love the OBC, it's the best recording of this show that I have. I'd be surprised if the film soundtrack was anywhere near as good.

I love the sondheim shows we have live on dvd so far, except for Company, but we have a better performance of that due soon on dvd.

I'm a big fan of the DVDs as well. I actually enjoy 'Company' with Raul Esparza, I'm not sure if I'll like the new release coming as its a concert version.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2012 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

I have always wanted this... especially for "The Glamorous Life."

"The Glamorous Life" is actually on the Broadway Cast CD as a bonus track.

James

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2012 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

I love the show, hated the film. Liz is completely dubbed, though I have one track of Liz in the film, before she was dubbed..

Was that her on the LP, though, Joe? Because the quick, needle-drop buzz-through I did of my LP had me convinced it was her singing her way carefully through "Send in the Clowns".

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2012 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

I ripped this from my mom's record a few years back, which was Columbia LP JS 35333. Here are the songs and credits that I had.

01 Overture and Night Waltz (Love Takes Time) [Performed by the Company]
02 The Glamorious Life [Performed by Elaine Tomkinson]
03 Now - Soon - Later [Performed by Len Cariou, Christopher Gaurd, Lesley-Ann Down]
04 You Must Meet My Wife [Performed by Len Cariou, Elisabeth Taylor]
05 Every Day A Little Death [Performed by Diana Rigg, Lesley-Ann Down]
06 Night Waltz [Instrumental]
07 A Weekend in the Country [Performed by L Dunlop, Lesley-Anne Down, Len Cariou, Diana Rigg, L Guittard, C Gaurd]
08 Send in the Clowns [Performed by Elizabeth Taylor]
09 It Would Have Been Wonderful [Performed by Len Cariou, Laurence Guittard]
10 Finale -- Send in the Clowns (reprise) - Night Waltz [Performed by Elizabeth Taylor, Len Cariou]

And here are some other relevant credits:
Produced by Jonathan Tunick and Bob Hathaway
Music scored and supervised by Jonathan Tunick
Recorded by John Richards at DeLane Lea Music Centre, London

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2012 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....I love the show, hated the film. Liz is completely dubbed, though I have one track of Liz in the film, before she was dubbed......


Let's assume for a moment that Taylor WAS completely dubbed, as Joe Caps suggests.

But, if so, why would ANYONE in a production capacity attempt to have it done so haltingly, so badly, so unmusically that everyone, not knowing Taylor was dubbed, would complain for all these years about how awful Taylor's singing was in the film? Why wouldn't Prince, Sondheim, and Tomkinson have aimed for a good vocal reproduction of the songs coming out of Taylor's mouth instead? The music would have been much better served, and Taylor would have come out of the enterprise with far higher critical esteem.

On the other hand, if Taylor, a legendary non-singer, were partially-dubbed in the really rough spots by Tomkinson, then Tomkinson would HAVE to do it badly---but slightly better than Taylor---to make it work believably and sound like a match---even if, as a dubber, she were capable of doing it well.

Can you imagine the producers saying to Tomkinson, "We have good news and bad news for you. The good news is that we want you to dub Elizabeth Taylor's voice. She is a terrible singer so we want you to make a new recording of all her songs. The bad news is that we want you to do it really badly, so that while the critics will cry out in horror, it will seem logical coming out of Taylor's mouth."


In the end, I would suggest to you that Tomkinson's dubbing of Taylor, in partial, was a desperation "fix" on the part of the producers to help the music along and give Taylor some musical credibility and a claim that she sang in the film.

Rosalind Russell coasted for many years on the suggestion that she had sung much of GYPSY, whereas she sang very little. (But it was enough to render the claim at least partially true.)

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2012 - 7:08 PM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

I only own one track of Taylows - the openingt, Love Takes Time, but I have heard all of the other tracks, and none of the Taylor tracks I heard are the ones in the film.

Only a thought, But I have a feeling that she sang to her own tracks and the dubber was brought in later, to post dub her. Sadly, the dubber can only match lizs halting phrasing.
Sad to have a dubber sound almost as bad as the original.
Same thing happened with Peter oTooles dubber in Man of La Mancha, one of the last of the great non singing, non dancing musicalfilms.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2012 - 7:10 PM   
 By:   Dr. Nigel Channing   (Member)

I have always wanted this... especially for "The Glamorous Life."

"The Glamorous Life" is actually on the Broadway Cast CD as a bonus track.

James


Thank you for the head's up -- just downloaded the track from the iTunes store. Whatever happened to Elaine Tomkinson?

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2012 - 9:41 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

How about a little captioning contest, everybody?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2012 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)


theres also a fun photo of John Kerr and Rossanno Brazzi around the microphone at Fox recording songs for South Pacific, although both were dubbed.

Manderley, odd you mentioned that Deborah Kerr is partly dubbed for King and I. In the film, its all Marnie Nixon.

BTW, the Be a good scout number in Affair to Remember is supposedlly Deborah herself.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2012 - 7:13 AM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

theres also a fun photo of John Kerr and Rossanno Brazzi around the microphone at Fox recording songs for South Pacific, although both were dubbed.

Manderley, odd you mentioned that Deborah Kerr is partly dubbed for King and I. In the film, its all Marnie Nixon.

BTW, the Be a good scout number in Affair to Remember is supposedlly Deborah herself.


Kerr does do the into to GETTING TO KNOW YOU and perhaps bits of WHISTLE A HAPPY TUNE. Of course the vocal which is mostly Kerr, the SHALL I TELL YOU soliloquy was cut before release. But it can be heard on the soundtrack album.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2012 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

one of the last of the great non singing, non dancing musicalfilms.

A pithy description!

As for the photo, Sondheim's smile suggests that he's thinking of his paycheck.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2012 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

How about a little captioning contest, everybody?




"That was really quite good Liz; you should do more musicals after this. But in my piece "Desiree" is an actress, not a singer. Could you try one a little more choppy and off-key?"

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2012 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

How about a little captioning contest, everybody?



"Thanks for helping us Liz! Diana's work just wasn't good enough; she's not an Oscar winner. But don't tell her that you've replaced her voice."

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2012 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

How about a little captioning contest, everybody?



"Nice take, Liz! But you made an error. In my lyric it's 'clowns,' not 'cows' "

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2012 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)


Sorry, but I never saw it written anywhere that deborah does the intro, but it is talked not sung, Never heard it said that she did bits of Whistle a Happy tune. My statemanet is still correct. She does NOT sing anything in the film, the cut number, shall I tell You What I think of You, Deborah does that talk parts, but none of the sung ones.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2012 - 9:44 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

How about a little captioning contest, everybody?



"Keep rehearsing Liz. With our names on the cover, Columbia is guaranteeing us a soundtrack album!"

 
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