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 Posted:   Apr 4, 2009 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

I'm no big fan of Jerry Gokdsmith's basketball-beat scores. Gawd, he was doing that in everything from GREMLINS 2 to EXTREME PREJUDICE for a couple of years. But I was surprised how much I liked some of this score (thanks, Mutant!). Some of it does show Jerry at his ponderous and bland worst, but at other parts the music really comes alive. In the earlier clips I love how the bluesy tonalities are used, and the piano there actually sounds like a jazz musician at work, rather than the lilting simplicity of many of Goldsmith's piano chords from around that time (actually, you can hear that even in this score, but the good bits are nearly great). So I'm giving it thumbs up!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2009 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   Bill R. Myers   (Member)

If nothing else, this score is a landmark for being the last drum-machine/Yamaha blowout of Goldsmith's career. At the time, he was trying to put accoustic instruments back at the center of his music, and he probably wasn't thrilled about revisiting his synth-heavy late 80's style.

I thought the finale was scored fairly well. The heroic music doesn't really start until the Twin Peaks kid starts kicking ass. Lord, what a silly movie.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2009 - 4:28 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

I hated that percussion in Hoosiers the first time I listened and then I thought 'Wait--it's actually the sound of a basketball hitting the floor. That's pretty ingenious!' But the sound just makes me wince most of the time--it does not date well. I've definitely grown to enjoy Hoosiers but that's the exception that proves the rule for me...

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2009 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I'm glad you guys are enjoying watching the clips and I really dig reading your different comments and points of view. It's very rewarding to see these vids spark such lively discussion.

New Clip Online:

Lincoln's Match:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64irDGd9fuY

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2009 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

the fights in this movie look like cartoons! (maybe Goldsmith thought the same)

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2009 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   Dan Hobgood   (Member)

Well, if this represents Jerry Goldsmith at his least effective, then he truly was the best film composer by a wide margin.

In point of fact, these clips show--once again--that Jerry Goldsmith was an incredible dramatist and craftsman. His score gives the film its heart, energy, and flair, plus glues edits and scenes together seamlessly. Additionally, from what the clips indicate, Jerry spotted the film and action quite nicely, knowing when music would be useful and when silence would be better.

I also love the music qua music.

Way to go, Jerry; thumbs up!

Dan

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2009 - 1:10 AM   
 By:   mastersofuniverse   (Member)

I actually think some of Goldsmith's pieces in this score are quite funky!
the percussion and the orchestra, it sort of feels like a late 70s, early 80s cop show for that chase scene music!

Maybe Goldsmith was on autopilot for this score, he must have had lots of other scores that were more priority probably.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2009 - 5:47 AM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

I actually enjoyed the music in the clips featured in the original post.

I will definitely buy the soundtrack when it will be released. (Please Varese or whoever will or can release it)

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2009 - 6:48 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

I will definitely buy the soundtrack when it will be released. (Please Varese or whoever will or can release it)

Same here. A fun-sounding score, Goldsmith again providing music better than the film deserved.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2009 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Well, if this represents Jerry Goldsmith at his least effective, then he truly was the best film composer by a wide margin.


Or maybe you just have the stupidest ears by a wide margin. Who can tell?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2009 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   Dan Hobgood   (Member)

Well, if this represents Jerry Goldsmith at his least effective, then he truly was the best film composer by a wide margin.


Or maybe you just have the stupidest ears by a wide margin. Who can tell?


As a matter of fact, I can tell you that I actually don't have stupid ears--since ears are not the source of I.Q.

Hope I didn't just blow either your ears or your mind with that revelation.

Dan

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2013 - 11:05 PM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)

I've been working on restoring Jerry's score in these clips from the forgotten 1992 boxing film "Gladiator" (Cuba Gooding Jr., Brian Dennehy) It's kind of a cheesy flick.
Goldsmith's rousing score was replaced by a darker, more reserved one by Brad Fiedel. Goldsmith held on to the central theme, for the character of Tommy, and used it the next year in a more tragic mode for "The Vanishing"

Check it out:


Fighting Black Death:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwar-VXaFuM&feature=channel_page

The Chase:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rU3AO2dlBE&feature=channel_page

Lincoln's Match:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64irDGd9fuY

Tommy and Dawn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt8Qi86y8h4&feature=channel_page

Riley vs Horn / End Titles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seSkgNAVcT4

more to come soon..


Since the videos have been deleted is there any chance or other way you can repost 'em? I've really been enjoying the Intrada album these past few days. And would love to hear Goldsmith's score in the context of the movie.

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 3:47 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I still have them all. I'll try to post them on dailymotion, but I won't be back home for another month.

I'll update this thread if it works.

Sigh.... I miss my old YouTube channel...

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 6:15 PM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)

Cool! I appreciate that. smile

I've really been digging his unused score. Can't get enough of that "Knock Out" track.

 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2013 - 3:06 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)


Since the videos have been deleted is there any chance or other way you can repost 'em? I've really been enjoying the Intrada album these past few days. And would love to hear Goldsmith's score in the context of the movie.




Here is the first one (My Baby/My House)
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x13rv62_lincoln-s-match-jerry-goldsmith_creation

More to come soon.

 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2013 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Sarge   (Member)

Otisburg?

OTISBURG... ?!?

 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2013 - 4:06 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

"It's a little bitty place!"

 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2013 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Cool! I appreciate that. smile

I've really been digging his unused score. Can't get enough of that "Knock Out" track.


Here is the Knock Out track:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x13s0m4_knock-out_creation

 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2013 - 5:38 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

A Favor:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x13s19h_a-favor-jerry-goldsmith_creation

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2013 - 5:58 PM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)


Here is the Knock Out track:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x13s0m4_knock-out_creation


I liked how it goes with the scene, but Goldsmith's score was too good for this movie. It made that round more exciting and dynamic than it actually was, imo. Proving Goldsmith was scoring more than just the boxing match, imho. I haven't seen this movie in years so I can't remember Fiedel's score to compare.

I thought "Repayment" worked nicely towards the end and during the fade out. Goldsmith's music in that moment gave an uneasy feeling of victory and greed with that lustful look on Dennehy's character's face.

 
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