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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: The Great Santini
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2011 - 3:23 PM   
 By:   Jeff Eldridge   (Member)

To be honest, it does sound rather like a circus act or (to New Yorkers) a moving company.

I remember thinking, back when it came out, that it sounded like a movie about a magician!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2011 - 5:37 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

I have been waiting for this excellent Bernstein score. Besides being a really good movie, I also viewed it several time to just hear the music. Obviously, Ordered.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 2:07 AM   
 By:   Dorian   (Member)

How often does it happen that you turn on the computer and find new exciting CDs by Bernstein, Barry and Williams, all released at once?

This film was recently on TV here, now it's time to have the music too.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 8:24 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

Great score to a good little film - and also devoid of ondes martenot, which is nice.
I will certainly be adding this to a future order.
Nice one FSM smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2011 - 6:31 PM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

Over the years, I've had a personal assembly of my favorite unreleased film score "mystery clips." Most film score aficionado friends who listened could pinpoint the composer, but then would have a hard time identifying the film.

The "End Titles" of THE GREAT SANTINI was on that list and fit into that category. They would narrow it down to Elmer Bernstein, but then hem and haw as to the film title. "Jeez, I've heard this before, but I can't remember where." We've all had those moments.

Well, one more fine score gets whittled off my "mystery list." It was about 20 titles long years ago. Now I think it's down to about 10 or so, if memory serves me.

[Subconsciously thinking: Oh no! Are they going to ask me what the remaining titles are? Where the blazes is that CDR I had made years ago?] No matter. It was an AUDIO kind of quiz that had to be heard in person. Others here have posted audio mystery clips on the board with some interesting results. I never had the audacity or the technical skill to post mine. But it's tempting. Maybe some day, but it will have to be with someone's help.

Ron Burbella

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2011 - 4:57 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

A lovely gem of a score by the great Elmer Bernstein. I'm not an advocate of including source cues with the score proper. Either exclude them or present the material after the score is over. Love the Bernstein portions, but after listening to the CD, I could not get the "Moon River" tune out of head.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2011 - 8:17 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

The "Inauguration(UCSB)" cue sounds so familiar, did Bernstein use the music elsewhere?

 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2011 - 11:31 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

The "Inauguration(UCSB)" cue sounds so familiar, did Bernstein use the music elsewhere?

We're not sure.

It took a great deal of detective work to figure out what that piece was. It was recorded only as "13M1" on the Great Santini sessions (the film has no 13th reel) and labeled "Inauguration." With the help of Ned Comstock at USC and David Spear, who orchestrated the score for Elmer, we were able to I.D. the piece. It has a lot of "Elmerisms" and sounds like his film scores.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2011 - 11:52 PM   
 By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member)

I'm not an advocate of including source cues with the score proper.

It felt right to me on this one. So much of the film happens with the source music playing that including it in the main program seemed to capture the spirit of the movie better. Of course with iTunes feel free to sequence it however you wish.

Enjoy the music!

Neil

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2011 - 8:33 AM   
 By:   chrobb541   (Member)

The "Inauguration(UCSB)" cue sounds so familiar, did Bernstein use the music elsewhere?

We're not sure.

It took a great deal of detective work to figure out what that piece was. It was recorded only as "13M1" on the Great Santini sessions (the film has no 13th reel) and labeled "Inauguration." With the help of Ned Comstock at USC and David Spear, who orchestrated the score for Elmer, we were able to I.D. the piece. It has a lot of "Elmerisms" and sounds like his film scores.

Lukas


Kind of like a cross between Scalphunters and Zulu Dawn (which I think is quoted literally in the piece and is of the same vintage). I find myself playing this track over and over.

Thanks for putting this CD out; Santini is great Elmery goodness.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2011 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

Playing The Great Santini now, really enjoying this Elmer Bernstein score of excellent vintage. Out of sheer curiosity (having read some of the views expressed here) I couldn't restrain myself from jumping ahead to track 25 entitled, Inauguration, yes it has shades of a number of other Elmer films especially The Scalphunters, also perhaps The Hallelujah Trail, whatever it is it's great listening! Thanks FSM for this most enjoyable release.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2011 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

Hard to believe this thread has fallen so far so quickly! Should be more comment about such a superb release, a great late-Elmer opus. I do agree with some previous posters about the source music, but then it's easy to either edit or create a more personal listening experience on a CDR. The dramatic score is, at times, exquisite. You could say I liked it.

- James.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2011 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

My copy is on it's way from SAE together with some Johnny Williams and Stu Phillips.
I'll report back with my thoughts when I've played it, although I already love the score from seeing the film on video years ago and taping the music onto cassette.
It is a shame a lot of people around here don't really want to post their thoughts and opinions on all these great releases once they receive them (unless they find some sound glitch or other frown). It's not like you need any musical knowledge or deeper understanding.
It's never stopped me and Fred Karlin quoted me in his book!!!

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2011 - 3:50 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I hope the lack of discussion about this one doesn't indicate a lack of sales, though it's easy to see how it could have been crowded out among the higher profile releases of the last month. It's a terrific Bernstein score, in a style unique to him, and I'm enjoying it very much.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2011 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Got my copy today, together with Not With My Wife.. Vol 2 and BSG Vol 2 smile
It is a lovely little slice of Americana, with a lot more source music than I recalled (or taped onto cassette).
I've got no problem with the source cues playing between the score tracks, since they can easily be skipped or programmed out, unlike the CD's to Raggedy Man or Water For Elephants.
I am, however, mystified by the placement of the alternative Mystique track at the beginning of the CD, instead of the actual one used in the film.
That's the only prob I have with the whole thing. I'd always opt for the music IN THE FILM as the main programme, against any unheard alt/orig versions. I guess they went with the alt take because of the better sound perhaps?.
Still, it's a really cool score and the bonus track at the end is fantastic, especially since The Scalphunters is one of my fave Elmer scores ever!!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2011 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

I made my own CDR minus all the source tracks and with the Main Title (film version) at the beginning and as such, it's quite a superb score!!! Thanks FSM for making this available!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2011 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   Erik Donovan   (Member)

Great Bernstein score, but I could have done without the non-Bernstein songs. The bonus track "Inauguration" is the highlight of the release.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2012 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   Robert0320   (Member)

Beautiful score from Berntsein's later period.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2013 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

Beautiful score from Berntsein's later period.

What he said! I am still mystified about how or why this became a poor seller for FSM. Its a superb piece of Americana. It's obvious that EB cared about the picture A LOT, because he put so much of himself into it. It is actually quite a beautiful film, with great performances from all the cast members and I wish it could be better known. As a late-career Elmer Bernstein credit, this one really stands out!

- JMM.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2013 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

THE GREAT SANTINI has finally been issued in widescreen as a made-on-demand DVD from the Warner Archive.

 
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