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 Posted:   Jul 17, 2013 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   moviescore1   (Member)

This just made my day if Tinkerbell is the confirmed title. I'm a big McNeely fan and his scores for this series are incredible. The best music to come out of Disney in a long time. Getting all the scores for the rest of the series would be awesome!

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2013 - 12:16 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

If Tinkerbell had an OST containing a mix of songs and score and now a new Expanded Edition is coming, than I don't see the difference with issuing a new Expanded Edition of Mulan, which also started with a CD containing a mix of song and score

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2013 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   counterpoint   (Member)

Great news because it`s a great score for sure but my all time Disney animated holy grail is 101 Dalmatians II by Richard Gibbs.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2013 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   Senn555   (Member)

Does this mean Roger is going to change his mind on saying "no" to me regarding MLP:FiM? Since he's releasing the score to another entity marketed primarily for kids, and adult animation fans. Would be nice to know if he actually tried talking to Hasbro / DHX though.

https://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/hasbro-studios-the-hub-release-a-soundtrack-for-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-2
http://www.petitiononline.com/p1nk13pi/petition.html

https://www.facebook.com/dannyimusic/posts/497123893668521

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2013 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Senn555, I think the reason Roger said NO was because Hasbro is just not friendly in licensing stuff out, as we learned more explicitly from MV at LaLaLand. I enjoy My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic too (thanks in part to your persistent threads) but I don't think you need to take offense from Roger on this issue.

And even though MLP's music is definitely above average, it doesn't hold a candle to the McNeely masterpieces written for these TinkerBell movies...just my opinion.

As far as Mulan goes, I think there is hope. This TinkerBell release *does* establish that score previously released on an album by Disney can get an expanded release. And Doug had already replied to me on the Intrada board saying they were able to expand things on Disney-owned labels like Les Miserables or The Ghost and the Darkness (and he said the latter in particular was "on their radar"). I think it's only a matter of time (and probably a lot of work).

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2013 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

If Tinkerbell had an OST containing a mix of songs and score and now a new Expanded Edition is coming, than I don't see the difference with issuing a new Expanded Edition of Mulan, which also started with a CD containing a mix of song and score

The previous CD was a song compilation, (with one instrumental track) not the score with a few songs. This will be a score release with a few songs (probably heard in the film). It doesn't constitute as a re-release as the score was never released on CD.

Mulan on the other hand was a score release with equal parts score and songs as heard in the film. An expanded release would be a re-release not under Intrada's Disney agreement.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2013 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I don't think that actually makes a difference, solium. After all, Roger also said they were including "a couple songs", which were also presumably on the first soundtrack release. If licensing could be worked out for this despite the previous release, I don't think the previous release of Mulan will be a problem, though the film's high profile in the animated line might slow it down.

While the agreement with Disney may have originally precluded re-releases of already existing Disney/Disney-owned albums, I think that rule changed at some point after they started doing the co-branded line, from things Doug has said over the past year.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2013 - 1:55 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

That would indeed be good news if that is the case. I already have the Mulan promo, but I welcome expanded releases including Mulan for those that don't have it.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2013 - 2:04 PM   
 By:   Senn555   (Member)

Senn555, I think the reason Roger said NO was because Hasbro is just not friendly in licensing stuff out, as we learned more explicitly from MV at LaLaLand. I enjoy My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic too (thanks in part to your persistent threads) but I don't think you need to take offense from Roger on this issue.

It's not Hasbro. They've established as of February 2013 that they're interested in releasing MLP's soundtrack, under the condition that they make a profit from it (which they seem to think they won't achieve). They allowed Lakeshore to release Transformers: Prime 16 months ago, which has *far less* overall popularity than MLP:FiM does.

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=94727&forumID=1&archive=0

And yes, I'm slightly annoyed because I don't think Roger actually looked into it at all and just brushed me off to the side based on being uninformed about its massive fanbase. If I'm wrong on this and he actually *did* attempt negotiations with Hasbro, then I'll apologize, but right now I don't think he's aware that this is one of the biggest pop culture phenomenons in recent animation history.

In any case, Hasbro might give out the green light if they weren't covering the expenses of mastering / licensing / royalties and a label like Lakeshore, Intrada, or LLL were to do that instead. Perhaps Intrada should attend San Diego Comic Con this weekend and talk to some Hasbro executives, where they're holding five MLP-related panels (three more than the two film music related panels that were advertised).

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2013 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Intrada's customer base are "us", the FSM crowd. I bet 90 percent of their sales comes from this board.
Something like MLP would need an iTunes and Amazon digital release, and put in major stores (Best Buy and Walmart) where "that" customer base would find the title. I don't think they are the "right" company to release MLP music.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2013 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   Senn555   (Member)

put in major stores (Best Buy and Walmart)

No. That's an added expense which isn't necessary to have. The entirety of MLP:FiM's adult animation fanbase (which a major study estimates that there are 7 to 12 million of just in the USA alone! http://herdcensus.com/generalsurvey.shtml) was born on the internet and it grew exponentially thanks to YouTube and internet piracy, so it only makes sense to have a soundtrack CD release for purchase online-only like the boutique soundtrack labels do.

Agreed on the digital download option, however, though ideally the CD version should have more music that the digital version won't have to help boost sales.

Ultimately, I don't care if it's LLL, Intrada, Lakeshore, Shout! Factory, or any other label that releases it, as long as it's done right the first time.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2013 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

With regards to the songs, here is the listing at IMDb for them:

A Greater Treasure Than a Friend
Performed by Savannah Outen
Written & Produced by We 3 Kings as Keith Volpone, Bill Brandt and Walter Brandt
Courtesy of Disney Records

To the Fairies They Draw Near
Written and Performed by Loreena McKennitt
Arranged and Produced by Joel McNeely
Courtesy of Walt Disney Records

Fly to Your Heart
Words and Music by Michelle Tumes
Performed by Selena Gomez
Produced by John Fields
Arranged by Stephen Lu
Courtesy of Walt Disney Records

Fly With Me
Performed by Kari Kimmel
Produced and arranged by Jim Marr & Wendy Page
Courtesy of Disney Records

You'll note that Joel McNeely arranged and produced one of them so if they are incorporated into the score, that might be why they are included.

James

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2013 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

Never seen TINKERBELL, but a new McNeely release is good news.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2013 - 5:11 PM   
 By:   Clark Wayne   (Member)

It seems in the UK the only Lone Ranger CD will be one of those 'Songs Inspired By' things that have no relevance to the film itself.

Shame the Disney Shop in the UK doesn't sell the Intrada releases.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2013 - 5:18 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

The best McNeely release news possible, trust me.

I'm guessing the "two songs" might actually be one song, sorta: To the Fairies They Draw Near is two separate tracks (a Part 1 and a Part 2) on the original Disney album:
http://www.amazon.com/Tinkerbell/dp/B001DZLAVO/

I'm very happy they're included as McNeely produced them and they fit very well with the score (and play an actual narrative role in the movie), though McNeely does not actually quote them in his score that I recall.

Oh, and for anyone who wants to see what all the fuss is about but doesn't want to watch the (honestly cute) movies, Joel's website has a ton of samples for these and you should check 'em out!

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2013 - 7:30 PM   
 By:   Ravi Krishna   (Member)

This is brilliant! I totally loved the orchestral suite on the song album and would love to have more of the score. I hope the other Tinkerbell scores do get released somewhere down the line too. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2013 - 11:30 PM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

Just wait until July 23. Why Spoil it and everybody who guesses is 90% wrong most of the time

Well, for me personally I actually prefer (and enjoy) reading all the guesses. Two reasons why I like the guessing game:

1, Even if it is 90% wrong there is still someone out there who actually nail it and when he/she does that many people more or less "confirm" it that it had to be just that title and the great thing with that is it makes me happy so I can plan upcoming orders.

2, The second reason is just because it is pure fun to see all the guesses, it makes me smile.

 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2013 - 4:52 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Just wait until July 23. Why Spoil it and everybody who guesses is 90% wrong most of the time

Over at Intrada, users usually nail down both titles within a few days, without confirmation from Roger or Doug.

 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2013 - 5:15 AM   
 By:   Deadwalker   (Member)

Just wait until July 23. Why Spoil it and everybody who guesses is 90% wrong most of the time

Over at Intrada, users usually nail down both titles within a few days, without confirmation from Roger or Doug.


I know that, old news

 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2013 - 6:43 AM   
 By:   bdm   (Member)

I enjoy the guesses as well, and especially the folks who "Know for a FACT that this IS the score coming!"... And it isn't. And those who "Know for a FACT that that is NOT the score coming!" ... And it is.

And sometimes the speculation builds some excitement for the release day - and I don't mind if the excitement turns out to be for naught, as it was fun while it lasted.

 
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