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If Tinkerbell had an OST containing a mix of songs and score and now a new Expanded Edition is coming, than I don't see the difference with issuing a new Expanded Edition of Mulan, which also started with a CD containing a mix of song and score
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Great news because it`s a great score for sure but my all time Disney animated holy grail is 101 Dalmatians II by Richard Gibbs.
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Senn555, I think the reason Roger said NO was because Hasbro is just not friendly in licensing stuff out, as we learned more explicitly from MV at LaLaLand. I enjoy My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic too (thanks in part to your persistent threads) but I don't think you need to take offense from Roger on this issue.
And even though MLP's music is definitely above average, it doesn't hold a candle to the McNeely masterpieces written for these TinkerBell movies...just my opinion.
As far as Mulan goes, I think there is hope. This TinkerBell release *does* establish that score previously released on an album by Disney can get an expanded release. And Doug had already replied to me on the Intrada board saying they were able to expand things on Disney-owned labels like Les Miserables or The Ghost and the Darkness (and he said the latter in particular was "on their radar"). I think it's only a matter of time (and probably a lot of work).
Yavar
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I don't think that actually makes a difference, solium. After all, Roger also said they were including "a couple songs", which were also presumably on the first soundtrack release. If licensing could be worked out for this despite the previous release, I don't think the previous release of Mulan will be a problem, though the film's high profile in the animated line might slow it down.
While the agreement with Disney may have originally precluded re-releases of already existing Disney/Disney-owned albums, I think that rule changed at some point after they started doing the co-branded line, from things Doug has said over the past year.
Yavar
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Jul 17, 2013 - 3:04 PM
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Senn555, I think the reason Roger said NO was because Hasbro is just not friendly in licensing stuff out, as we learned more explicitly from MV at LaLaLand. I enjoy My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic too (thanks in part to your persistent threads) but I don't think you need to take offense from Roger on this issue.
It's not Hasbro. They've established as of February 2013 that they're interested in releasing MLP's soundtrack, under the condition that they make a profit from it (which they seem to think they won't achieve). They allowed Lakeshore to release Transformers: Prime 16 months ago, which has *far less* overall popularity than MLP:FiM does.
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=94727&forumID=1&archive=0
And yes, I'm slightly annoyed because I don't think Roger actually looked into it at all and just brushed me off to the side based on being uninformed about its massive fanbase. If I'm wrong on this and he actually *did* attempt negotiations with Hasbro, then I'll apologize, but right now I don't think he's aware that this is one of the biggest pop culture phenomenons in recent animation history.
In any case, Hasbro might give out the green light if they weren't covering the expenses of mastering / licensing / royalties and a label like Lakeshore, Intrada, or LLL were to do that instead. Perhaps Intrada should attend San Diego Comic Con this weekend and talk to some Hasbro executives, where they're holding five MLP-related panels (three more than the two film music related panels that were advertised).
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Jul 17, 2013 - 3:29 PM
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Senn555
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put in major stores (Best Buy and Walmart)
No. That's an added expense which isn't necessary to have. The entirety of MLP:FiM's adult animation fanbase (which a major study estimates that there are 7 to 12 million of just in the USA alone! http://herdcensus.com/generalsurvey.shtml) was born on the internet and it grew exponentially thanks to YouTube and internet piracy, so it only makes sense to have a soundtrack CD release for purchase online-only like the boutique soundtrack labels do.
Agreed on the digital download option, however, though ideally the CD version should have more music that the digital version won't have to help boost sales.
Ultimately, I don't care if it's LLL, Intrada, Lakeshore, Shout! Factory, or any other label that releases it, as long as it's done right the first time.
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The best McNeely release news possible, trust me.
I'm guessing the "two songs" might actually be one song, sorta: To the Fairies They Draw Near is two separate tracks (a Part 1 and a Part 2) on the original Disney album:
http://www.amazon.com/Tinkerbell/dp/B001DZLAVO/
I'm very happy they're included as McNeely produced them and they fit very well with the score (and play an actual narrative role in the movie), though McNeely does not actually quote them in his score that I recall.
Oh, and for anyone who wants to see what all the fuss is about but doesn't want to watch the (honestly cute) movies, Joel's website has a ton of samples for these and you should check 'em out!
Yavar
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This is brilliant! I totally loved the orchestral suite on the song album and would love to have more of the score. I hope the other Tinkerbell scores do get released somewhere down the line too. 
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Just wait until July 23. Why Spoil it and everybody who guesses is 90% wrong most of the time
Over at Intrada, users usually nail down both titles within a few days, without confirmation from Roger or Doug.
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