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I'm obviously not really the person you all thought I was, because I have absolutely zero CDs of the old Irwin Allen TV shows. And zero DVDs until last week. LOST IN SPACE was always just a very vague TV memory from my childhood - I don't think I ever saw it after about the age of ten - and I'm sure I never saw any of the black-and-white Season 1 episodes at all. But I picked up the DVD set cheap when "back hame in the auld country" and have just seen the first two episodes ("The Reluctant Stowaway" and "The Derelict"). I must admit, I wasn't too excited with the Williams score for "The Reluctant Stowaway". Much of his TV work from the '60s sounds a bit like redundant doodlings to me, so I'm not too bothered about not having Volume 1 of the CD releases. It was kind of strange watching "The Derelict" right after "Stowaway" because although it's a straight continuation the music is very different, much more in the style of '50s SF movies (and with one particularly old-style drippy piece of violin music, by Richard LaSalle I think). The score is credited in the End Titles to Herman Stein, and I recognized a lot of him in there, although I see there was also quite a bit of Hans Salter. No wonder I was reminded of the '50s SF cycle. Whilst the John Williams score was much more modernistic, I think I'd prefer to listen to the Stein/ Salter cues on CD. One question - I immediately "knew" one piece heard during "The Derelict". I imagine it must be the track titled "Writing in the Log/ Family", by Herman Stein. Hearing that after all those years was like going back in time. So I suppose that that theme must have been re-tracked throughout the other two seasons, is that right? I think I'm going to pick up Vol 3 of the CDs, the only one which I can get quite cheap locally. It'll be a treat for me hearing "The Derelict". And despite what I said earlier about my reaction to the first Williams score I'm certainly not unhappy about having "My Friend Mr Nobody" on the CD as well, especially after Zap's positive comments above. I suppose I could watch that episode before ordering the CD, but that would put things out of order, and anal retention rules my mind in things like that.
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The episode where Will goes back to earth was tracked from an earlier Fox movie score by Cyril Mockridge I believe--and I'm blanking on the film unfortunately. . It's from Miracle on 34th Street. I suppose I could watch that episode before ordering the CD, but that would put things out of order, and anal retention rules my mind in things like that. Please don't ruin that music by associating it with the TV show!!! Ah come on, at least Mr. Nobody was a classic. The series didn't get really stupid until later.
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I would have to go back and rewatch all the shows in some kind of order to figure it out but I'm pretty sure there are still some major cues missing. And I can't say which episodes used the Smith theme I'm talking about, but I would say if you watch the color episodes, they probably use it in most of the tracked shows at least once. I was rewatching "The Anti-Matter Man" recently and it seemed there was a cue in there when they were showing the dimensional doorway generator or whatever it was, and there was a major Williams suspense cue there that I don't remember being on the set--the 40th anniversary set did add some important things for me though. And I may be misremembering and maybe all the Williams stuff has been released but it seems to me there's more. That's about as vague as I can get for today... There is actually very little existing Williams material left to release. A lot of the music from The Reluctant Stowaway no longer exists, so rerecordings done at the time for the library was put on the CDs. There are a few bits here and there missing from Island in the Sky and The Hungry Sea, but were talking a very small amount. A lot of Herman Stein cues used on There Were Giants in the Earth haven't seen release. Ford mentioned a lot of the music was actually recorded as library music and not composed specifically for that episode, but nevertheless, it still was used there for the first time and not on album. After Mr. Nobody, every other first season episode was tracked with what was available, either recorded for the previous episodes, or taking from the Fox library. A lot of the music was released when the respective film scores were put out. You can find a lot of it, you just need to know where to look. Try The Day the Earth Stood Still, Beneath the 12 Mile Reef, Journey to the Center of the Earth, Garden of Evil, Miracle on 34th Street, The Enemy Below, etc.
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There is actually very little existing Williams material left to release. A lot of the music from The Reluctant Stowaway no longer exists, so rerecordings done at the time for the library was put on the CDs. There are a few bits here and there missing from Island in the Sky and The Hungry Sea, but were talking a very small amount. Considering the unlikelihood of any further CDs, and the faithfulness of the show's own re-recordings, this is pretty good news for me. What I loved best is all there. I don't have the DVDs, but back in my VHS days I made a sound clip of "Robot Walks the Ice" from the pre-recorded cassette. It's quite brief like you suggested, kind of an angry fanfare.
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That piece was one of the few that didn't make it on the 40th anniversary set and I was really hoping it would. But there ya go.
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Is there anything in Crescendo's box set not on the LLL discs? Yes, the Alexander Courage and Mullendore scores that were on the second LIS disc in the set. Wait a minute, there's more. The GNP version of "The Hungry Sea" has cues not on the LLL disc. And don't forget GNP Box Set Volume 7, also known as LOST IN SPACE Volume 3. It has the whole episode score from "The Derelict" instead of just two minutes, so you get the exciting "Lift Off" cue among other things. And it has the whole "My Friend, Mr Nobody" instead of the short LLL suite. As I suggested in the original post, the additional "Mr Nobody" cues are quite significant.
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"king mark" posted this at jwfan: A few years ago I tried those instructions for The Hungry Sea, and found that he got it wrong, much as I appreciate his contributions. First of all, "Earthquake" goes at the beginning, not the middle. GNP Track 8 and LLL Track 16 have the same content. The LLL sounds a little better. So "The Hungry Sea" should start with LLL Track 16. Second, what's up with stopping GNP Track 9 at 1:05 and then resuming right there at 1:05? It's a misprint. King mark's plan also leaves out the cliffhanger ending heard on GNP Track 10. Figuring out how to correctly assemble the cues after "Earthquake" is maddening. The GNP Volume One Tracks: 08. Earthquake (2:44) 09. Chariot Titles... (3:43) 10. Morning After... (7:55) Total time 14:22 The LLL Tracks: 16. Earthquake (2:45) 17. Temperature Rising... (4:08) 18. Warming Rays/Sun Storm (3:00) 19. Land Ho/Kid's Play-Off (2:36) Total time 12:29
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