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 Posted:   Oct 27, 2013 - 5:23 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

It's a real shame that steampunk still doesn't have any defining and classic films like its cousin cyberpunk. That counterculture/style has numerous masterpieces (like Blade Runner, Ghost in the Machine, and The Matrix) but the best the steampunkers have got is the Robert Downey, Jr. Sherlock Holmes films (which I do enjoy).

I wonder if the Victorian time frame hinders interest in there being a Steampunk film, or at least enough tries until such a quality film is made.

And for the record, I don't share most FSMers' glowing view of Blade Runner and The Matrix..especially the former. Yecch!

 Posted:   Oct 28, 2013 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Another fascinating element of Edwardian literature was the proliferation of fantasy and ghost stories. Such authors as M.R.James, a master of ghost stories, whose "Oh Whistle and I'll Come to You, My Lad," features a creature with "a face like crumpled linen." Or Lord Dunsany, with a number of books to his credit. Or Algernon Blackwood, another master of the creepy. Or Arthur Machen, who reveled in tales of weird goings-on in foggy dales of standing stones in the English countryside.

Although these writers were being published while Edward VII was king, they also continued up into the 30's. Likewise, Talbot Mundy, John Buchan, and Sax Rohmer. (Buchan had the greatest prominence, and, for other reasons, eventually became Prime Minister of Canada.)

An interesting aspect of all of them is not only a casual racism, but also misogyny. Most of these tales are about male "chums," encountering weird experiences of one sort or another, though without any overt homoerotic elements, which would have seemed out of the question to these writers. (Mundy, for all his tales of male cameraderie, often deplored what he called "perverts.") And most everyone refers to Asians, more or less, as either "inscrutable," or "The Yellow Peril."

It was a different time, and such attitudes as racism, misogyny, and homophobia were socially acceptable.

My parents had a large collection of books by these writers, and I inherited them. They have become very rare with time.

 Posted:   Oct 30, 2013 - 7:35 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

I am currently reading A Study in Silks by Emma Jane Holloway. The main character is Evelina Cooper, the niece of Sherlock and Mycroft Holmes. England is controlled by the Steam Barons. Magic of sorts works, but can get you arrested and executed. More on this book when I get further into it.

 Posted:   Dec 25, 2014 - 5:09 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I saw a couple of interesting and attractive-looking books on Steampunk at my local comic shop the other day. The first title being particularly delightful in its content and design.

The Steampunk User's Manual: An Illustrated Practical and Whimsical Guide to Creating Retro-futurist Dreams

The Steampunk Bible: An Illustrated Guide to the World of Imaginary Airships, Corsets and Goggles, Mad Scientists, and Strange Literature

 Posted:   Dec 26, 2014 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

Does the above count as a good example of steampunk? I thought it was tremendous when I saw it turn up during the climax to that year's Doctor Who Christmas Special, The Next Doctor. Many fellow fans hated it, because of things like the implausability of it fitting into the River Thames, and it not making the history books. Me? I just loved the Boys' Own style panache that it represented and sat there with the biggest grin since I was 12. I'm 53 now.

I give you The Cyber King!

 Posted:   Dec 26, 2014 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Yes, that's the kind of Steampunk imagery I like, even if we as the audience are bludgeoned over the head by that bombastic Murray Gold score; can't stand that crap.

 Posted:   Dec 27, 2014 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

To quote a well known US tennis player from the past YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That piece of Murray Gold luxury is the best monster movie music in years! Really! Listen to it. It's beyond wonderful. I just wish the BBC at the time could have afforded more time to the sequence to allow Murray to give it the full Herrmann inspired sound to fully do it justice, instead of a few measly moments of bombast, along with the same amount of cgi the Beeb could afford. And I do believe they blew steam out of their ears to give the production what RTD wanted. He was WAY more powerful in my eyes than Moffat is even now with his Sherlock business.

On that one night, I got what I love. Who, and a monster movie sequence. I would pay good money to know what Ray Harryhausen thought. Because in my heart of hearts I KNOW he was a Who fan.

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