Film Score Monthly
FSM HOME MESSAGE BOARD FSM CDs FSM ONLINE RESOURCES FUN STUFF ABOUT US  SEARCH FSM   
Search Terms: 
Search Within:   search tips 
You must log in or register to post.
  Go to page:    
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2009 - 4:50 AM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

Yeah, Inferno was terrific - absolutely what Pertwee Who was all about, yet, funnily enough, too seldom achieved in later stories.

I like all the Liz Shaw stories. As a very young child, Jo Grant appealed to me. Today, I find her silly and irritating for all the reasons I liked her as a kid! big grin But the Liz Shaw stories had a maturity that I appreciate now. There was even a kind of prototype Mulder/Scully relationship between Liz and The Dr... without the romantic frissons though!

Having said that, Roger Delgado, who came later, became a real hero to me! The most evil man in the universe, already! He was and is the master of all Masters. Roger Rules!

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2009 - 5:05 AM   
 By:   Stefan Miklos   (Member)

Yeah, Inferno was terrific - absolutely what Pertwee Who was all about, yet, funnily enough, too seldom achieved in later stories.

I like all the Liz Shaw stories. As a very young child, Jo Grant appealed to me. Today, I find her silly and irritating for all the reasons I liked her as a kid! big grin But the Liz Shaw stories had a maturity that I appreciate now. There was even a kind of prototype Mulder/Scully relationship between Liz and The Dr... without the romantic frissons though!

Having said that, Roger Delgado, who came later, became a real hero to me! The most evil man in the universe, already! He was and is the master of all Masters. Roger Rules!





Season 7 with the character Liz Shaw that you described was an experimental season and from season 8, the story editor decided to get rid of her and returned to more traditional Doctor Who monster types.
From season 8, the character of the Brigadier changed his uniform to the standard "drab" kind.
There were still engrossing stories with serious themes as "The Claws of Axos", "The Green Death".

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2009 - 5:28 AM   
 By:   Stefan Miklos   (Member)

Yeah, Inferno was terrific - absolutely what Pertwee Who was all about, yet, funnily enough, too seldom achieved in later stories.

I like all the Liz Shaw stories. As a very young child, Jo Grant appealed to me. Today, I find her silly and irritating for all the reasons I liked her as a kid! big grin But the Liz Shaw stories had a maturity that I appreciate now. There was even a kind of prototype Mulder/Scully relationship between Liz and The Dr... without the romantic frissons though!




What you say is confirmed by David J. Howe and Stephen James Walker, the authors of "The Television Companion - The Unofficial and Unauthorised Guide to Doctor Who" on page 249 by stretching that season 7 was "a succession of relatively adult-oriented adventures".

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2009 - 10:45 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

There were still engrossing stories with serious themes as "The Claws of Axos", "The Green Death".

Claws Of Axos is a lot of fun! Underrated by the fans, it seems. Great imagination and production design in that one, especially considering the tiny "school play" type budget.

The Sea Devils is also great, but again seems underrated by the fans for some reason. It also has some of the best Delgado moments of the whole series!

The above two Whos have very nice synth scores (the best of their kind in the show's history, IMO), courtesy of Dudley Simpson and Malcolm Clarke, respectively.

Ahhh... those were the days...

 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2009 - 6:27 AM   
 By:   Stefan Miklos   (Member)

There were still engrossing stories with serious themes as "The Claws of Axos", "The Green Death".

Claws Of Axos is a lot of fun! Underrated by the fans, it seems. Great imagination and production design in that one, especially considering the tiny "school play" type budget.

The Sea Devils is also great, but again seems underrated by the fans for some reason. It also has some of the best Delgado moments of the whole series!

The above two Whos have very nice synth scores (the best of their kind in the show's history, IMO), courtesy of Dudley Simpson and Malcolm Clarke, respectively.

Ahhh... those were the days...



Read this quote from the Axon invaders:
"All things must die, Doctor - mankind, this planet.
Axos merely hastens the process...
Axonite is simply... bait, for human greed.
Because of this greed, Axonite will spread across the planet,
and then... the nutrition cycle will begin.
Slowly, we will consume every particle of energy,
every last cell of living matter.
Earth will be sucked dry!"
--Axos Cell Entity from "The Claws of Axos".


The concept behind "The Claws of Axos" is very new: a civilization whose technology is based on organic and biological matter. Very daring.

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2009 - 7:04 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Finally! Tat Wood's & Lawrence Miles' ABOUT TIME 3 (revised edition) which covers the Pertwee years, is due to be republished May 19, 2009! Copies of the old edition were selling for up to $500.00!!!

http://tinyurl.com/c7pe63

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2009 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   Stefan Miklos   (Member)

Finally! Tat Wood's & Lawrence Miles' ABOUT TIME 3 (revised edition) which covers the Pertwee years, is due to be republished May 19, 2009! Copies of the old edition were selling for up to $500.00!!!

http://tinyurl.com/c7pe63




I already pre-ordered it and bought with two Doctor Who R1 DVDs which were "not" released in R2:
"Doctor Who and the Silurians"
"The Sea Devils"

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2009 - 10:19 PM   
 By:   Reeler   (Member)

Find my top 10 list:
1. "Inferno" (my single best)
2. "The Claws of Axos"
3. "Day of the Daleks"
4. "The Time Monster"
5. "The Three Doctors"
6. "Frontier in Space"
7. "Planet of the Daleks"
8. "The Green Death"
9. "Planet of the Spider"
10. "Spearhead from Space"

Favourite season: season 10


I'm awaiting the Dalek War boxset of Frontier In Space and Planet Of the Daleks. Episodes 3 of POTD has been colourised, but I'm assured it's very good. Here's the link for the Doctor Who Restoration Team. Click on DVD Releases and you will find the work that was carried out on this story.

http://www.restoration-team.co.uk/


One of my all time favourite Pertwee stories was The Daemons, from Season Eight. Along with Pertwee, you have UNIT, The Brigadier "chap with the wings, five rounds rapid" and of course Roger Delgado's Master. A true classic of Doctor Who.


The cast members cited The Daemons as their favorite to work on.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2009 - 10:22 PM   
 By:   Reeler   (Member)

There were still engrossing stories with serious themes as "The Claws of Axos", "The Green Death".

Claws Of Axos is a lot of fun! Underrated by the fans, it seems. Great imagination and production design in that one, especially considering the tiny "school play" type budget.

The Sea Devils is also great, but again seems underrated by the fans for some reason. It also has some of the best Delgado moments of the whole series!

The above two Whos have very nice synth scores (the best of their kind in the show's history, IMO), courtesy of Dudley Simpson and Malcolm Clarke, respectively.

Ahhh... those were the days...



Read this quote from the Axon invaders:
"All things must die, Doctor - mankind, this planet.
Axos merely hastens the process...
Axonite is simply... bait, for human greed.
Because of this greed, Axonite will spread across the planet,
and then... the nutrition cycle will begin.
Slowly, we will consume every particle of energy,
every last cell of living matter.
Earth will be sucked dry!"
--Axos Cell Entity from "The Claws of Axos".


The concept behind "The Claws of Axos" is very new: a civilization whose technology is based on organic and biological matter. Very daring.


The CG psychedelic accomplishments inside the spaceship should have earned the designers an award. It was pure genius.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2009 - 10:26 PM   
 By:   Reeler   (Member)

Yeah, Inferno was terrific - absolutely what Pertwee Who was all about, yet, funnily enough, too seldom achieved in later stories.

I like all the Liz Shaw stories. As a very young child, Jo Grant appealed to me. Today, I find her silly and irritating for all the reasons I liked her as a kid! big grin But the Liz Shaw stories had a maturity that I appreciate now. There was even a kind of prototype Mulder/Scully relationship between Liz and The Dr... without the romantic frissons though!

Having said that, Roger Delgado, who came later, became a real hero to me! The most evil man in the universe, already! He was and is the master of all Masters. Roger Rules!





Season 7 with the character Liz Shaw that you described was an experimental season and from season 8, the story editor decided to get rid of her and returned to more traditional Doctor Who monster types.
From season 8, the character of the Brigadier changed his uniform to the standard "drab" kind.
There were still engrossing stories with serious themes as "The Claws of Axos", "The Green Death".


I think it was Barry Letts who claimed the reason Carolyn John was released was because her character was as intelligent as The Doctor. How much I believe that, I dunno, but that's what was claimed.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2009 - 10:28 PM   
 By:   Reeler   (Member)

Find my top 10 list:
1. "Inferno" (my single best)
2. "The Claws of Axos"
3. "Day of the Daleks"
4. "The Time Monster"
5. "The Three Doctors"
6. "Frontier in Space"
7. "Planet of the Daleks"
8. "The Green Death"
9. "Planet of the Spider"
10. "Spearhead from Space"

Favourite season: season 10


I'd remove Spiders (a lot of chase scene padding) and replace it with The Mind of Evil. That would probably round out my Top 10 and Silurians making the Top 5.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2009 - 1:51 PM   
 By:   Stefan Miklos   (Member)

Find my top 10 list:
1. "Inferno" (my single best)
2. "The Claws of Axos"
3. "Day of the Daleks"
4. "The Time Monster"
5. "The Three Doctors"
6. "Frontier in Space"
7. "Planet of the Daleks"
8. "The Green Death"
9. "Planet of the Spider"
10. "Spearhead from Space"

Favourite season: season 10


I'd remove Spiders (a lot of chase scene padding) and replace it with The Mind of Evil. That would probably round out my Top 10 and Silurians making the Top 5.




"The Mind of Evil" is the only Pertwee I haven't watched.
The color print is lost, by the way.
I wrote to 2 Entertain and told me that "The Mind of Evil" is planned for a release.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2009 - 4:26 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

Find my top 10 list:
1. "Inferno" (my single best)
2. "The Claws of Axos"
3. "Day of the Daleks"
4. "The Time Monster"
5. "The Three Doctors"
6. "Frontier in Space"
7. "Planet of the Daleks"
8. "The Green Death"
9. "Planet of the Spider"
10. "Spearhead from Space"

Favourite season: season 10


I'd remove Spiders (a lot of chase scene padding) and replace it with The Mind of Evil. That would probably round out my Top 10 and Silurians making the Top 5.




"The Mind of Evil" is the only Pertwee I haven't watched.
The color print is lost, by the way.
I wrote to 2 Entertain and told me that "The Mind of Evil" is planned for a release.


Some info about the surviving colour footage from Mind Of Evil.

'The Mind of Evil' is the only Jon Pertwee story for which no colour episodes exist, although a few minutes of colour from the final episode survive from a domestic recording. The Restoration Team were asked to oversee the remastering of this six-part story for release by BBC Video in May 1998...It was clear from the beginning that the surviving colour footage, about four minutes of episode six recorded off-air on a domestic Betamax recorder in the United States in the late seventies, should be included in the video release. This would take the form of a colour restoration, combining broadcast-quality monochrome film recordings with the colour from the domestic video recording - the same technique that had initially brought the team together in 1992 for 'The Daemons'. Although the possibility of re-integrating the colour footage into the monochrome episode was considered, it was decided very early on that this would distract the viewer, so it would be placed at the end of the tape as a bonus.

http://www.restoration-team.co.uk/

This relates to the VHS release in 1998. With the colourisation work done for episode three of Planet Of the Daleks, perhaps we will see a complete colour copy of MOE.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2009 - 10:12 AM   
 By:   Reeler   (Member)

Find my top 10 list:
1. "Inferno" (my single best)
2. "The Claws of Axos"
3. "Day of the Daleks"
4. "The Time Monster"
5. "The Three Doctors"
6. "Frontier in Space"
7. "Planet of the Daleks"
8. "The Green Death"
9. "Planet of the Spider"
10. "Spearhead from Space"

Favourite season: season 10


I'd remove Spiders (a lot of chase scene padding) and replace it with The Mind of Evil. That would probably round out my Top 10 and Silurians making the Top 5.




"The Mind of Evil" is the only Pertwee I haven't watched.
The color print is lost, by the way.
I wrote to 2 Entertain and told me that "The Mind of Evil" is planned for a release.


Some info about the surviving colour footage from Mind Of Evil.

'The Mind of Evil' is the only Jon Pertwee story for which no colour episodes exist, although a few minutes of colour from the final episode survive from a domestic recording. The Restoration Team were asked to oversee the remastering of this six-part story for release by BBC Video in May 1998...It was clear from the beginning that the surviving colour footage, about four minutes of episode six recorded off-air on a domestic Betamax recorder in the United States in the late seventies, should be included in the video release. This would take the form of a colour restoration, combining broadcast-quality monochrome film recordings with the colour from the domestic video recording - the same technique that had initially brought the team together in 1992 for 'The Daemons'. Although the possibility of re-integrating the colour footage into the monochrome episode was considered, it was decided very early on that this would distract the viewer, so it would be placed at the end of the tape as a bonus.

http://www.restoration-team.co.uk/

This relates to the VHS release in 1998. With the colourisation work done for episode three of Planet Of the Daleks, perhaps we will see a complete colour copy of MOE.


I welcome a color version, but my hunch is MOE is most effective b&w. The story in general is in the G to VG range IMO. It kind of comes a little undone around the fringes, but an interesting idea at the time. I think as a complete story The Silurians is the best written. Six or seven parts? I cannot remember. I guess though I favor Inferno because of the intensity.

 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2009 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

I welcome a color version, but my hunch is MOE is most effective b&w. The story in general is in the G to VG range IMO. It kind of comes a little undone around the fringes, but an interesting idea at the time. I think as a complete story The Silurians is the best written. Six or seven parts? I cannot remember. I guess though I favor Inferno because of the intensity.

Doctor Who And the Silurians ran for seven episodes. Watch out for a very young Paul Darrow, playing Captain Hawkins.

 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2009 - 11:05 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I'm bumping this thread in anticipation of my introduction to thie era of Dr. Who. There doesn't seem to be all that much on DVD, so catching up shouldn't take too long.

And, as noted in the Doctor Who DVD thread, I await the ABOUT TIME 3 book that chronicles Pertwee's run in excruciating detail!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2009 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   william 711   (Member)

I Dont Have A Favourite Episode They Were All Good Jon Pertwee Is The Best Dr Who To Me...

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2009 - 4:00 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Might as well make my first Jon Pertwee story be his first story! Ordered "Spearhead from Space" today. I'm looking forward to this one because it introduces so many things: color to Dr. Who, UNIT, Jon Pertwee, and the Autons. UNIT I recall from the first Tom Baker season but I'm looking forward to seeing the Pertwee Doctor's interaction with the Brigadier. I also have my ABOUT TIME 3 (Second Edition) at the ready...

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2009 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   Stefan Miklos   (Member)

Might as well make my first Jon Pertwee story be his first story! Ordered "Spearhead from Space" today. I'm looking forward to this one because it introduces so many things: color to Dr. Who, UNIT, Jon Pertwee, and the Autons. UNIT I recall from the first Tom Baker season but I'm looking forward to seeing the Pertwee Doctor's interaction with the Brigadier. I also have my ABOUT TIME 3 (Second Edition) at the ready...



Carry on, dear old chap! That's the right way to understand Jon Pertwee's rendition of the doctor.
It's the only 4 part serial shot on film and produced by Derrick Sherwin from Patrick Troughton's era.
Meet Liz Shaw!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/spearheadfromspace/detail.shtml


PS: The first standard Pertwee's era is the second serial "Doctor Who and the Silurians", shot on video with exteriors done on film and first produced by Barry Letts.

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2009 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Nice blog post about growing up in the Pertwee Era and all the accompanying memories:

http://markgoodacre.blogspot.com/2009/10/childhood-memories-of-british-doctor.html

 
You must log in or register to post.
  Go to page:    
© 2024 Film Score Monthly. All Rights Reserved.
Website maintained and powered by Veraprise and Matrimont.