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 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

but he's ossified over the past two decades into a humorless, mumbling, senile grump. frown

I've encountered this view before, but honestly I think it's just people making too much of the physical effects of his growing older, rather than his actual acting. Most of us will undergo similar changes, of course, and it doesn't mean we're less good at what we do.

Ford does have certain limits to his range, of course (and always has), but within them he excels. I think he simply hasn't gotten enough movies lately that are good enough to really let him shine.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

Good call on WITNESS Chris.
He was blessed to work with superstar directors like Lucas and Spielberg AND other more critic-friendly ones like Peter Weir and Alan J Pakula.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

but he's ossified over the past two decades into a humorless, mumbling, senile grump.

Well, with people with your opinion its no wonder!

http://www.contactmusic.com/news-article/ford-i-hate-the-internet_30_03_2006

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I think to best appreaciate Ford - although I admit he was working with great scripts and directors at his height - compare him to the rubbish that pass as leading men these days!
Channing Tatum!!! Taylor Kitsch!!! Ryan Reynolds!!!
Ford was a TITAN by comparison.
- Vermithrax Pejorative

But he turned into a "movie star" which meant from that point forward he just "read" the script. Movie Stars as a whole are the worst actors, because they are just playing themselves. Its one reason I find so many mainstream films incredibly boring. - Solium

I think you’ve both nailed it. At the same time I wonder how many “Stars” also feel trapped by their fame. They know what their fans expect (demand) of them in movie roles and may be afraid to take risks as far as characters they portray. Balance that with the temptation to ride the gravy train in roles just for easy money.

I thought his peak of roles as a rascal was Han in “Empire”, while the “smoldering” (good call, Dana), desperation-bubbling-beneath-the-surface role, at which he excels, peaked in “Presumed Innocent” and “The Fugitive”.


Very true. He was excellent in the 70's and 80's. By the 90's he was on auto-tune. But you bring up a good point. "Movie Star" status almost requires an auto-tune performance because audiences expect to see "Harrison Ford" and not necessarily the character he is playing. Actors come and go, but "Movie Stars" have longevity in the business. I do have a great deal of respect for him in keeping his work life and private life separate.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

Harrison Ford's finest performances IMO are in Presumed Innocent, The Mosquito Coast and Frantic. He is far from a terrible actor.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 10:26 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

Well I thought he was terrific in many films – “The Conversation” “The Mosquito Coast” “What Lies Beneath” and many more – as I recall he’s also very good in “Heroes.”

Comedy is, as they say, hard. Mr. Ford has caused audiences to roar with laughter and has generated full-throttle, clapping, jump to your feel enthusiasm in so many films – I doubt that a bad actor is actually capable of generating so much laughter and joy.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 2:54 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

6 performances which are among my all-time favorites, and which to me are memorable for what Harrison Ford and his particular talents brought to them:

RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK
WITNESS
CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER
WHAT LIES BENEATH
PRESUMED INNOCENT
THE FUGITIVE

I will concede to some clunkiness among his more recent performances, but I don't care. I think some of the same arguments could be made about Kevin Costner, but I have been convinced and moved by enough of his performances to consider him a great one. Same point with Harrison Ford.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 3:27 PM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

and what have you starred in recently, dan the man? wink

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 3:37 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Luke - may the Force be with you (the disbeliever turns turncoat - but is he just sayin' it cos he knows Luke is gonna be toast without his help?) cool .

You're OK Harrison. I'd like to go up with you in your DH Beaver and talk about anything, except effing movies.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 4:02 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

I give up.

We can but hope.....

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

and what have you starred in recently, dan the man? wink

God, I can't stand this sort of "well you've never starred in/directed/composed a score for" post. Dan, you've never been in a movie so you can't possibly have an opinion about Harrison Ford's "acting" ability. By the same token, every person on this board who isn't a profesional film music composer can't possibly express a view such as "Goldsmith's score for Mr Baseball was terrible" (I'm not incidentally.... but it was ).

Well, you know what, Charles, I'm willing to bet that you've never flown a 747 before but if pilot error results in a Jumbo jet crashing into your house I bet you'd have a few things to say about it. But wait!!!! "what long haul heavy weight Boeing aircraft have you piloted recently"????. None? Oh well, you can't express a view about the pilot - just accept it is one of those things while wrapping bandages around your damaged skull (something you might want to consider doing even sans a 747 falling on your head, old chap).



 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 4:53 PM   
 By:   Storyteller   (Member)

I give up.

We can but hope.....





James Cameron molests collies.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 6:50 PM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

and what have you starred in recently, dan the man? wink

God, I can't stand this sort of "well you've never starred in/directed/composed a score for" post. Dan, you've never been in a movie so you can't possibly have an opinion about Harrison Ford's "acting" ability. By the same token, every person on this board who isn't a profesional film music composer can't possibly express a view such as "Goldsmith's score for Mr Baseball was terrible" (I'm not incidentally.... but it was ).

Well, you know what, Charles, I'm willing to bet that you've never flown a 747 before but if pilot error results in a Jumbo jet crashing into your house I bet you'd have a few things to say about it. But wait!!!! "what long haul heavy weight Boeing aircraft have you piloted recently"????. None? Oh well, you can't express a view about the pilot - just accept it is one of those things while wrapping bandages around your damaged skull (something you might want to consider doing even sans a 747 falling on your head, old chap).




wow, Mike...I guess you didn't notice my smiley face icon. Lighten up, son.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 6:56 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Well this is what I like, nice fun bantering with many just offering there honest opinions, but there are some here who just don't have a sense of humor. Let 'see, I GIVE UP, then telling me what have I been in, . Good men like MR SONES in civilized manner , just disagree with my viewpoints, didn't get upset or attack me. This is what I don't understand about some people, can't people have an opinion without being attacked. I said this once before may I say it again if you think Georges Delerue, and Miklos Rozsa are bad composers, GOD BLESS YOU it's your right. If you think George c Scott and Peter Cushing are terrible actors GOD BLESS YOU. It's your right. LET people live and have free thoughts on anything they choose to. Just don't yell fire in a crowded moviehouse.Yes MR JACK, I know what you mean I too have felt that about Ford.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 6:58 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

TO MIKE J- GOOD POINT.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 7:55 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Hi dan the man!smileI think he's a fine actor. But, have you seen him on talk shows latelly? He seems like a completely different person than he did say 25 years ago. He talks slow, talks with his hands. Nothing wrong with that, just an observation.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 8:21 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

TO CHARLES THAXTON- Yes I have acted in a few movies in my life. But I don't think it really matters if I did or not. One surely can have a viewpoint of worth on things they may not actually do. Take sports as a good example, some of the best sports announcers were not really athletics. TO NAME A FEW, CURT GOWDY , FRANK MESSER, LINDSAY NELSON, CHRIS SCHENKEL ETC ETC.Let's act a little mature here, everyone has an opinion and a right to it. Many people did not like GONE WITH THE WIND AND STAR WARS, I did, but all people have the right to like what they like without people making silly remarks about it.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 11:04 PM   
 By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member)

I just now returned home from my first viewing of 42 (The Jackie Robinson Story).
I took my dearest lady, who happens to be a baseball expert (I am far from it).
She thought that Harrison Ford captured Branch Rickey perfectly, and had nothing but the highest praise for his performance in the film.
On the other hand, I don't know a damn thing about Branch Rickey. I could only assess Ford's performance by comparing Ford to Ford in everything else I've ever seen him in.
42 is a GREAT film!
I LOVED it!
Harrison's performance is unlike anything he's done previously, and represents a bold new step into senior-citizenhood. He's now the "grizzled character" actor. I thought his performance in 42 was somewhere between a great character portrayal, and a total clown. I'm on the fence here. Each scene represented another challenge for Ford to deliver the kind of goods he has never had to come up with previously.
As I said...I'm on the fence. My opinion here is inconclusive. Ford gave it his all, for the first time in a while. It is a valiant attempt at a classic form of character acting, but I found his work to fall just a notch or two short of greatness, and for that I blame the director. Seriously. Ford was WORKING here...truly working his heart out to make this role one of the Great Ones. I believe that he got it 95% right, and the other 5% is flawed by a director who just needed one more take to get it perfect.
I believe that 42 may very well represent a new beginning for an actor we've all come to love. I can't wait to see what he does next.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2013 - 11:47 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

I give up.

We can but hope.....





James Cameron molests collies.


Quite probably, Storyteller. People with the initials JC are reknowned for that sort of thing.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2013 - 12:25 AM   
 By:   Power Puffer   (Member)

Ford is a product of the school of laconic acting, and that's never been to everyone's taste in the same way that semi-sweet chocolate isn't to everyone's taste. Some people just have to have the simple super-sweetness of milk chocolate, as their palates will never adjust to anything more subtle, sophisticated and, perhaps, satisfying.

Hell, there were, and are, those who can't fathom Gary Cooper, who elevated laconic acting to an art.

 
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