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 Posted:   Sep 19, 2013 - 5:12 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

It's the hypocrytical and perverse admiration the English writers (and probably most or the English) have whilst pretending to be against the class system. All bolshy and working class glorifier on the outside but deep down they gloat about the system "yeah that's us, and everyone envies us for it".


I guess you don't know much about writer Julian Fellowes, who is scarcely "bolshy."



In actual fact, Julian is.....Julian Alexander Kitchener-Fellowes - Baron Fellowes of West Stafford and sits in the House of Lords.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2013 - 5:45 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

Here is a bit of speculation on my part for season 4. (Read if you have only seen season 3.)

What are the chances of Lady Mary Crawley, after a long period of grief, getting together with Tom Branson? Both now have lost their spouses and both have babies. Eh, I don't know. Part of the problem would be with Mary always seeing Tom as WELL below her station...but still.



Well, I don't know, Joan.....One of the new faces in "Downton" is Julian Ovenden.

He's from my home town - Sheffield, and, I don't know what his character is going to be like, but i'm sure you're going to like him.



He's a good actor and he also possesses a fine set of pipes. Take a look at this clip from a recent Prom....

http://youtu.be/Ei-2lnh0HV8

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2013 - 6:18 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

CH-CD, wow that guy really has a gorgeous voice. Maybe he'll be a singer in Season 4. Nice looking and can sing. Can't way to see what happens. We don't get season 4 in the states until Jan. 5, 2014. Sigh.

Thanks for sharing.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2013 - 7:47 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

I've caught bits and pieces of various episodes (I believe it airs on PBS here in the US), but have yet to really sit down and check it out. I tend enjoy British period pieces, though.

And it's embarrassing, but I just now realized I had the title slightly wrong. I thought it was Downtown Abbey. LOL!


Michael, don't be embarassed. I thought it was Downtown Abbey as well. I guess I was channeling Priscilla Clark. I did not become a watcher until the end of season 2. I quickly ordered seasons 1 and 2 and watched them marathon fashion. I was ready and waiting for season 3. However, I got too impatient with the weekly wait for season 3 so I bought season 3 as well.

Part of my frustration was word on the web that the US version was shorter the British with material cut for timing sake. This bugged me so when I decided to buy seasons 1-3, I purchased the original versions. Not a moment of regret here!

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2013 - 8:04 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

CH-CD, wow that guy really has a gorgeous voice. Maybe he'll be a singer in Season 4. Nice looking and can sing. Can't way to see what happens. We don't get season 4 in the states until Jan. 5, 2014. Sigh.

Thanks for sharing.


He's not bad, is he ? Should be a popular addition.

I'm really looking forward to Sunday night and have my tails all neatly pressed in readiness.

While you're waiting, here's another bit of Julian.....

http://youtu.be/Sb-6UH4nxCg



 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2013 - 8:23 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

I truly love this series. It's so refreshing to see an exquisitely produced, written and acted drama that works at an adult level rather than at the mostly adolescent level of today's theatrical movies. This show represents just one of many recent series (mostly on cable in the US) that makes today's TV fare far more interesting to me than most anything playing at the cinemas.

I was much more crushed by the demsie of Sybil, well, because I had something of a thing for her. A wee bit of heartbreak for me.

I really like John Lunn's score for the series as well, especially the urgent and emotionally driven main title music.


I too was very saddened and surprised when the character of Sybil passed away. I found her to be a refreshing and mischievous sprite always pushing the social norms. I hope they introduce a similar character in season 4.

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2013 - 5:42 AM   
 By:   mark ford   (Member)

Looking forward to the always fun to watch Paul Giamatti in season 4.

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2013 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

Sirusjr and Disco Stu notwithstanding, DOWNTON ABBEY is a marvelously engaging series that succeeds in making us care about the characters, whether upstairs or down, by showing both the good and bad that reside in us all. I for one am greatly looking forward to the new season.

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2013 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

Here is a bit of speculation on my part for season 4. (Read if you have only seen season 3.)

What are the chances of Lady Mary Crawley, after a long period of grief, getting together with Tom Branson? Both now have lost their spouses and both have babies. Eh, I don't know. Part of the problem would be with Mary always seeing Tom as WELL below her station...but still.



Well, I don't know, Joan.....One of the new faces in "Downton" is Julian Ovenden.

He's from my home town - Sheffield, and, I don't know what his character is going to be like, but i'm sure you're going to like him.



He's a good actor and he also possesses a fine set of pipes. Take a look at this clip from a recent Prom....

http://youtu.be/Ei-2lnh0HV8


To quote my 20 something daughter "yummy". That is her quote not mine. I thought it was pretty funny.

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2013 - 10:35 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Interesting speculation!

I immediately fell in love with "Downton Abbey" and have bought each of the 3 seasons on Blu-ray, and it's hard to put one on without moving on to the next and the next and the next.

I think that some here have unjustly criticized Dan Stevens for leaving the show, a move that troubled me too, because he was one of the principal reasons I watched it. But he's a professional actor, fairly young, and didn't want to forever be tied to his role as Matthew Crawley, which is understandable, although it would have made him enough money to never have to work again. Obviously his career was more important than the easy money from "Downton." And I think that it was, in the long run, better for the show -- now the writers can take Mary in a number of different directions with different love interests and not just have to make silly conflicts like WILL Matthew or WON'T Matthew accept the inheritance from the family of the woman whose heart he broke.

I happen to adore the soundtrack for "Downton Abbey" by John Lunn and was amazed at what a good job they did when they produced it, although I can do without the extra songs (except the ones based on Lunn's music, which I DO like). I ended up also buying the follow-up soundtrack "Downton Abbey -- The Essential Collection" even though so much of it are repeats of themes on the first one. But there's enough good stuff on it to justify the expense, although the main soundtrack should be quite sufficient for most.

I used to collect interviews of the cast, such as when some of them visited New York City (had enough of Jim Carter's story about the fan of his eyebrows, which he told during too many interviews -- remember him as the barman/actor who played the Nurse in "Ethel And The Pirate's Daughter"?) and then transferred them to DVD. It was nice to see that the young actor who plays Thomas is quite personable and not at all the monster we just hate on the show!

Someone mentioned that he was quite surprised when Matthew was killed, but news items about Dan's decision to leave the show had been popping up on my screen for months, so it didn't come at all as a surprise to some of us. But he was simply perfect for the role and I must have cried every time I watched the proposal scene in the snow at the end of season 2.

Re: "It's a triumph for Hugh Bonneville, among others." Ahhhh ... Hugh Bonneville, Lord Grantham and the father in the series. Yes indeed. A few months ago I saw him in an early movie of his career where he was this overweight fop who made me cringe, or when he played Samuel Pepys in the Claire Danes/Billy Crudup movie "Stage Beauty" about the end of not allowing women to play women on the stage (no, NOT "Shakepeare In Love"!). Bonneville has aged quite well since then, now just perfect for lords of the manor!

And thanks for the musical links to Julian Ovenden, who sounds terrific and looks like he'll be an interesting addition to the cast of this fine series.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2013 - 1:41 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Amazon just emailed me that "Downton Abbey" season 4 is now available!!!!!!!!!! Well, actually it's available for pre-order, with it not coming out until 1-28-14, just like the last season, which I received about midway into the PBS broadcasting of season 3, and watched the complete season in about 2 days, which I'll probably do again in about 4 months. 4 months for season 4. Can't wait.

Warning to those who have not seen the entire 4th season: There are some spoilers below that AREN'T marked as such, especially on page 5 of these postings, so be careful if you don't want to learn too much.

 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2014 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)



I started this thead in Sept. 2013 and just want to say I am ready for the first episode tonight. Can you say obsessed?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2014 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Yep, I'm ready too!!

 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2014 - 8:10 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

Yep, I'm ready too!!

Well worth the wait! Agree?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2014 - 7:17 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

Loved the season opener. After the hiatus it wasn't long before I was totally absorbed in the story again.

In retrospect it's good for the story that Matthew's gone. Now there's all the intrigue about who's going to run Downton, and I'm sure Mary is going to be confronted with a host of suitors.

I was hoping Thomas would be nice this season, but NO!

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2014 - 7:32 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

Loved the season opener. After the hiatus it wasn't long before I was totally absorbed in the story again.

In retrospect it's good for the story that Matthew's gone. Now there's all the intrigue about who's going to run Downton, and I'm sure Mary is going to be confronted with a host of suitors.

I was hoping Thomas would be nice this season, but NO!


Like the proverbial broken clock which is right twice a day, he "guessed right" on the nanny though, and did DA a big favor. (I won't say how, for those who are waiting to watch episode one on their TIVOs.)

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2014 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I like the episode. I miss Matthew who provided an attractive leading man for the series. I think one will arrive soon.

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2014 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

So I guess I'm going to be the lone naysayer -- so much of it was "ho Hum" for me, although they HAD to get through the heartbreak felt by Matthew's mother and widow, and successfully did so for both, setting them up to move on. But I was troubled by the return of the woman Earl Grantham almost had an affair with, worrying that it could be straying into typical soap opera territory, and the nanny turned out to be quite a vile stinker. And it's obvious that there will now be great conflict between Mary and her father over the running of the estate. To a degree, that will all, in the end, be just exposition to get us to the REAL meat and potatoes -- romance for both sisters. And it looks like the young ward is now going to have her own temptation with a lad (Julian Ovenden?) from the lower class. I didn't hate it, but can't help hoping it gets more interesting for me -- BEFORE my Blu-rays arrive at the end of the month!

Follow-up: It looks like Julian Ovenden doesn't make an appearance until the 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th episodes, so I guess he WASN'T that lad from the dance hall last night.)

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2014 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

I pre-ordered the Blu-Rays too. Many friends think I'm "cheating."

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2014 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

eriknelsonf: And in previous years, when my Blu-rays arrived a few weeks after the show started on PBS, some of MY friends thought that I was cheating by watching the rest of the new season in a weekend while THEY had to wait several weeks to see the rest of it!

Incidentally, was I the only one who felt that they seemed to accentuate the music last night? I had it hooked into my surround system and the score seemed more prominent throughout than I had remembered it from past seasons. Frankly, the audio seemed more like it is when I'm playing the Blu-rays.

 
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