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Downloaded it from itunes now, too (available in Germany since a few hours ago!) - and I am delighted, relieved and impressed. The whole cues (surprise!) reveal the interesting new ideas and the development of the familiar themes. For me, this belongs on the Best of-list of 2013. I see it but the sequence of the tracks seems to be in disorder? The first two are the Main Theme and then warp core values? I thought the Main Theme is the last track and "Logos/..." is the first? How is it ordered after you bought it? Track 1: Logos / Pranking the Natives Track 2: Spock drops, Kirk jumps Warp Core Values is Track 10. Is that the correct order? Haven´t seen the film yet. Weird... that is the correct order but in my itunes in the album page everything is mixed up, the theme is the first track, logos... is the fourth... weird Maybe a problem during the download? Can you correct it in the lists by clicking on the numbers?
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Before last night, I was skeptical about this new film. I was a harsh critic of the 2009 film and I often accused it of being "not the Trek I know." Well obviously it wasnt. But in time Ive grown to accept it (after multible viewings). I have been excited and nervous about Into Darkness...and though I participated in all the talk and such about it, and even bought merchandise, I was still nervous. And ANY Star Trek score is a no brainer for me...when the tracks were released via iTunes, I promised myself I would only download ONE track (The San Fran Hustle). Then..I went to a screening of the film last night...and holy wow!!! The film returns to the Trek values and morals that everyone knows its famous for! There were so many moments for those of us hard core Trekkies to notice and salute, not to mention interesting twists and turns that no one was expecting until it happened. As for the score...WOW! They cranked up the juice in IMAX last night and you heard darn near everything. And so...this Trekkie is happy with the latest installment. Even after getting home at 2am, I imediately downloaded another track, to satisfy my thirst until the CD comes out in a week or so. I like this score far more then the last one (based on what I heard in the film).
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For what it's worth, A.O. Scott's dispiriting review in the NY Times refers to the film as giving him "a feeling of disappointment, even betrayal." He goes on to say about the climax "It’s uninspired hackwork, and the frequent appearance of blue lens flares does not make this movie any more of a personal statement." I shouldn't say this, as I haven't seen the film, but my hunch is this will be my feeling, too. My problem is that, for all it's bluster, J.J.'s universe isn't pushing the Trek "story" on at all. Had it been a fresh reboot then he could have told genuinely new stories, but by trying to keep old fans happy he's trapped himself in the same basic universe and is going to spend the rest of his "era" re-telling the same old stories, but in an inferior way and without any of the scientific accuracy or emotional resonance that made the original TV series/films so unique. Having one character ask another character how they dealt with this "threat" in the "proper" universe only emphases the fact that a) the plot is a thinly disguised retread and b) this universe is alternate and therefore inconsequential. Had this been "proper" Star Trek, they'd have dealt with the trouble caused by Nero, fixed the timeline, and returned home in time for tea, much as they did in First Contact. It is the very definition of "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing".
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YOR liked the first new STAR TREK very much. One of his 12 wives even cried at the end! And YOR is big original Trek fan. YOR cannot understand all this hate towards the new movies. Even the old ones had a lot of mistakes and "betrayals" to the series, specially the Next Generation ones. Some people are just odd.
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For what it's worth, A.O. Scott's dispiriting review in the NY Times refers to the film as giving him "a feeling of disappointment, even betrayal." He goes on to say about the climax "It’s uninspired hackwork, and the frequent appearance of blue lens flares does not make this movie any more of a personal statement." I shouldn't say this, as I haven't seen the film, but my hunch is this will be my feeling, too. My problem is that, for all it's bluster, J.J.'s universe isn't pushing the Trek "story" on at all. Had it been a fresh reboot then he could have told genuinely new stories, but by trying to keep old fans happy he's trapped himself in the same basic universe and is going to spend the rest of his "era" re-telling the same old stories, but in an inferior way and without any of the scientific accuracy or emotional resonance that made the original TV series/films so unique. Having one character ask another character how they dealt with this "threat" in the "proper" universe only emphases the fact that a) the plot is a thinly disguised retread and b) this universe is alternate and therefore inconsequential. Had this been "proper" Star Trek, they'd have dealt with the trouble caused by Nero, fixed the timeline, and returned home in time for tea, much as they did in First Contact. It is the very definition of "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing". Well, Owen Gleiberman, not known for embracing blockbusters, counters that opinion: "Into Darkness is a sleek, thrilling epic that's also a triumphantly witty popcorn morality play. It's everything you could want in a Star Trek movie." So... who´s right? Nobody. It´s just opinions. Sorry, if A.O. Scott felt betrayed. Great, if Gleiberman adored it. As a long time Star Trek-fan I was nervous watching Abrams´ reboot - and loved all of it completely. Yes, it is different from the Original Series/Films. But hey, it was supposed to be different. And the underlying spirit of it all is clearly there for me to see. So I look forward to seeing the new movie very much. The score already fills me with extreme delight and anticipation.
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I agree with others that Abrams and his writers dropped the ball on this one. The first 10 minutes of the last film completely had me, while the whole 2 plus hours of this one left me cold. SPOILERS!!!! WTF is all that wiping out the Federation BS? How many people died during that final ship crash?? Must have been thousands?? Millions?? And is Kirk now the leader of the Federation, since everyone else got wiped out? And a year later, he gives some banal speech and off they go on some 5 year mission!! The writers don't seem to have learned ANYTHING after LOST and seem quite happy to keep writing themselves into holes they can't get out of...or even care to!
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