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 Posted:   Aug 4, 2011 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   Michael Condon   (Member)

Great music. Liked the movie too.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2011 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Still a great score, agreeden, and a fun, varied album.

I knew I was screwed back in '95 when I went to see this, and the opening
shot has our 'hero' pissing in the ocean.....

How about that Tina Majorino (sic?) all grown up in NAPOLEON DYNAMITE now!
I crack up that she is the little map girl in WATERWORLD almost daily....

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2013 - 8:23 PM   
 By:   Travis   (Member)

I noticed Amazon is rereleasing this score as an MP3 album release tomorrow. I was thinking about getting it, but is there any expectation that this score is up for rerelease by the likes of Intrada or LaLaLand any time soon?

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2013 - 7:09 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I'm obsessed with knowing what Jeff Bond thinks of this score today. I seem to recall that he didn't like it that much back in '95, but this sounds like Star Wars compared to what we're hearing these days (especially from JNH himself!).

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2013 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   JasonComerford   (Member)

I've always liked this score too. It's great fun, and more interesting to my ears than much of Howard's more recent output.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember hearing once that the gorgeous "Swimming" cue was actually ghostwritten by Brad Dechter. Not sure if that's true or not.

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2013 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I've always liked this score too. It's great fun, and more interesting to my ears than much of Howard's more recent output.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember hearing once that the gorgeous "Swimming" cue was actually ghostwritten by Brad Dechter. Not sure if that's true or not.


It incorporates part of JNH's theme from Intersection, so I never thought about that cue being ghostwritten. I've always wanted to hear something as huge as "Deacon's Speech" in a western. Imagine hearing that for the OK Corral sequence in Wyatt Earp, for instance.

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2013 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

I'm obsessed with knowing what Jeff Bond thinks of this score today. I seem to recall that he didn't like it that much back in '95, but this sounds like Star Wars compared to what we're hearing these days (especially from JNH himself!).

You should raise this question to Jeff on facebook. I'd love to know what he has to say, too!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 1:03 AM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Wonderful score, the action/big fantastical bits are just bitchin'. The main theme is a marvel and I'm amazed it wasn't sued more prevalently throughout the body of the score.

Here's the full, lengthy 7-minute end title suite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFqSW-UzOGA

The "End Credits" on the original album being more a finale than an end title cue properly...

Did anyone ever notice that the "Deacons Speech" cue is a pretty transparent rip of CONAN's "Anvil of Crom" Prologue march?

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 3:11 AM   
 By:   Frank Vincent   (Member)

The "End Credits" on the original album being more a finale than an end title cue properly...

Only the first two minutes is original music. The rest of the end credits has music from other cues edited together.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 3:21 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Like both film and score. Always thought the CD was a generous offering of the score. I actually enjoy most of Costner's films from around this time.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 3:26 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yeah, I feel the exact same way as I did when I posted my first entry in this thread, exactly 5 years ago. So no need to reiterate, I guess.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Glad to have read some even-handed analysis on this one. I enjoyed it much more than did its comtemporaneous critics, who were out to get Costner because of the huge budget and his recent string of hits.

I remember this LaserDisc really hammering the sound system in a really positive way, and I think Coster interacted convincingly with Jeanne Tripplehorn and Tina Majorino.

As for the ending, I think "The Mariner" was supposed to be like a Comanche scout: willing to interact with outsiders when necessary, even willing to invest himself temporarily in their fortunes, but ultimately destined to ride alone.

Good score, but I would've preferred something like Victor Young when Shane rides off into the sunset.

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2015 - 6:58 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

I watched the film on TV last night for the first time in a number of years, and for some reason I picked up on the almost identical similarity between the main theme for this and some moments in the theme for 'Wyatt Earp'. I'm pretty sure I recognised some familiarity before but it struck me again just how close they are. I appreciate he wrote the scores within a year or two of each other and 'Waterworld' was a rush job. I reckon I'm late to the party with this one...wink

The film is still very enjoyable, looks good and all the better for not being loaded with CGI.

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2015 - 7:19 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)



As for the ending, I think "The Mariner" was supposed to be like a Comanche scout: willing to interact with outsiders when necessary, even willing to invest himself temporarily in their fortunes, but ultimately destined to ride alone.


I watched this again very recently and have really come around on the arc of Costner's performance.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2015 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Big fan of both Howard's score and the movie. The movie may not be the best in the world but it's a fun watch, looks lovely and I thought Costner did well. I'd be interested in seeing the extended cut (extra 40 minutes) that IMDB mentions.

The score was an instant fav with a few pieces really standing out to me: Main Titles, Swimming, the Skyboat, Dryland, Mariner's Goodbye. With Swimming being the one that really stood out and got repeated listening



We caught this in theaters opening weekend and as the end credits rolled, both Donna and I said "well that was a fun ride for movie that everyone is supposed to hate". The theatrical version looks great on Blu Ray, and the extended cut on DVD looks fine ( to me at least ) and plays well, but doesn't feel like any huge improvement. The bad press surrounding the movie made it the "in" thing to bash, even if it was actually a good adventure. If memory serves it did open at #1 that weekend and actually did fairly well overall for a movie with such a bad reputation.

The score IS fabulous, and the generous CD gets lots of play. Love JNH's sound around this time, lots of Goldsmith and Williams influences.

Newton Howard did some knockout work for Costner, this, Wyatt Earp and The Postman.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2015 - 8:09 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I appreciate he wrote the scores within a year or two of each other and 'Waterworld' was a rush job..

Some of the best scores in the world have been "rush jobs" (ALIENS, anyone?), and I guess this is no exception. JNH has written tons of great stuff in his career, but he's never been close to equalling this masterpiece, IMO. That he did it as a replacement score in a short amount of time, only makes it more impressive.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2015 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   Klingon Mad   (Member)

Indeed this score is very good, probably Howard's finest!

I like the movie too, but the final act is very stupid and kind of ruin everything.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2015 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

I still remember to this day when I first saw that CD soundtrack in a CD store in Gothenburg and it was around the time it was released. Anyway I remember that I found two soundtracks of interest in that store but I could only afford one of them (because I was later that day heading to the amusement park Liseberg). That other being Mark Isham`s The Hitcher. I decided to buy Waterworld. Since Waterworld is such a great score I do not regret it. However since then I have never seen The Hitcher CD soundtrack in any store so that was a bummer. But today I do own a CD-R copy of The Hitcher (I got it through a CD trade). What I did not know back then was that Mark Isham had worked on Waterworld before JNH stepped in.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2018 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Great job as always LLL, enjoying today, and a terrific interview with JNH. However, did Chris Boardman perhaps sub for him at the interview- he's saying all the stuff 'we' like to hear & contradicting other interviews about how his style has changed! About how laziness has taken over scoring, not liking current trends, preferring busy, thematic writing - maybe he was being PC wherever we read how he liked the new style or I'm misremembering.
Either way, great score, greater set, worth the price for the interview alone (THIS is an essay, not some other pluperfect schoolgirl bullshit).
Get it while it's still around people.

https://lalalandrecords.com/waterworld-limited-edition-2-cd-set/

 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2018 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I need the 2-disc version.....

 
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