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 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 9:44 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

My fave Carter Burwell score is anything orchestral. I'm a massive Twilight fan and I've seen all five of them.

Iwazinkiwane310: Welcome to the board! And glad to find another who appreciates Burwell's music for Twilight 1,4, and 5! You might want to check out my posting of a discussion on "Twilight Forever," the 10 disc Blu-ray set of the 5 Twilight movies with oodles of extras. You can find it under Non-Film Score discussions. (I just added something to bring it up to the top so you can find it.)

Ron213

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   Trent Easton Navarro   (Member)

Carter Burwell is an amazing composer, and, yes, why he wasn't nominated for "In Bruges" has no acceptable answer, except that the musical branch of the Academy probably stuck with the Usual Suspects. And I would be very curious to know why they jumped from him to Desplat when they made the second in the "Twilight" franchise -- his music was so integral to the original movie and it was ridiculous to not keep the continuity, although (1) providing music for "New Moon" was a pretty thankless task, and (2) Howard Shore rescued the series with his music for "Eclipse." But someone had his head on straight when it was decided to bring Burwell back for 4 and 5, and that those films work as well as they do is attributable to both director Bill Condon AND Carter Burwell. Anyone have any details about why Burwell wasn't retained for 2 and 3?

Director Chris Weitz had worked with Desplat on The Golden Compass and wanted to work with him again, so that's the main reason I think. I actually thought Desplat did a pretty decent job, but Burwell's scores are the best of the series. Never saw the films though.

Back on topic, my favorite Burwell scores are The Chamber, The Jackal and Gods and Monsters. He's been one of my fave composers from the moment I started getting into film music. Shame he got rejected on Thor and Gangster Squad

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I've only seen the first Twlight film (after being dragged there by my ex) and the only thing that got me through was Burwell's score. It is very good IMO.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Trent:

Re: "Director Chris Weitz had worked with Desplat on The Golden Compass and wanted to work with him again, so that's the main reason I think. I actually thought Desplat did a pretty decent job, but Burwell's scores are the best of the series."

I had suspected as much. Weitz's "New Moon" has been so polarizing, and I've long said that, for me, it's the far weakest of the 5, and admitted that I was so dismissive of Desplat's score because it WASN'T a continuation of Burwell's original, which wasn't fair to Desplat. In some of the special features on the 10-Blu-ray set, we see director Weitz working on the film, and I'm also beginning to blame him less than Melissa Rosenberg's script (and maybe Stephenie Meyer's book it was based on). But we got past "New Moon" to "Eclipse," with the series rescued by a valiant Howard Shore, and once they got Burwell back for 4 and 5, all was once again well with the "Twilight" world.

As for liking the soundtracks but never seeing the "Twilight" movies, that's interesting. I wish you could see how perfectly Burwell's music works in the first -- it is soooooooooooooo perfect for it!

Two Burwell recommendations: "And The Band Played On" and "In Bruges," both of which are thrilling, especially the latter!

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   Mark R. Y.   (Member)

I like the Burwell scores that employ a brilliant theme that is heard throughout the film: his work for the Coens, "In Bruges" and "Being John Malkovich" are the best examples of this.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   Trent Easton Navarro   (Member)

Trent:

Re: "Director Chris Weitz had worked with Desplat on The Golden Compass and wanted to work with him again, so that's the main reason I think. I actually thought Desplat did a pretty decent job, but Burwell's scores are the best of the series."

I had suspected as much. Weitz's "New Moon" has been so polarizing, and I've long said that, for me, it's the far weakest of the 5, and admitted that I was so dismissive of Desplat's score because it WASN'T a continuation of Burwell's original, which wasn't fair to Desplat. In some of the special features on the 10-Blu-ray set, we see director Weitz working on the film, and I'm also beginning to blame him less than Melissa Rosenberg's script (and maybe Stephenie Meyer's book it was based on). But we got past "New Moon" to "Eclipse," with the series rescued by a valiant Howard Shore, and once they got Burwell back for 4 and 5, all was once again well with the "Twilight" world.

As for liking the soundtracks but never seeing the "Twilight" movies, that's interesting. I wish you could see how perfectly Burwell's music works in the first -- it is soooooooooooooo perfect for it!


I must admit that Burwell's music is so good, that I am tempted to watch the films just to hear his music in context. My girlfriend has them all on dvd so who knows, maybe one day wink Shore's score is indeed very good. Almost a combination between Burwell's harsh sounds of the first and Desplat's more lush second score. I also love that for the overture for Breaking Dawn pt. 2 Burwell uses both Desplat and Shore's theme.

Two Burwell recommendations: "And The Band Played On" and "In Bruges," both of which are thrilling, especially the latter!

Haven't heard "And the Band Played On" yet. I know it's on Spotify, so will investigate some day. In Bruges is indeed a wonderful score. Nice to see a fellow Burwell fan, the guy is highly underrated. He has a unique voice and is truly one of the most interesting composers around

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

Also, to answer the question, as a Burwell completist, owning every album he's ever released, I'd say my favorites are:

1) It Could Happen To You
(only two tracks on the album, both in this YouTube video)

However Burwell has much of the rest of the score on his website:
http://www.carterburwell.com/projects/ICHTY.html

2) Conspiracy Theory
'Riding" is my single favorite piece he has ever written and the cue that instantly made me a Burwell completist for life:

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 1:51 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

Rob Roy, by a considerable distance over anything else I've heard from him.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 2:46 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Favorite album: tie between Rob Roy and Gods and Monsters
Favorite score in film: Kinsey
Favorite theme: probably Fargo

There are many other scores of his I love, however. He's one of my top 5 favorite currently working composers.

I really would love to hear his Thor: the Dark World score!

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 3:55 PM   
 By:   jbt9955   (Member)

No one has mentioned it (probably because no one has seen it), but I would love to see a score only release of The Hi-Lo Country.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 4:08 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

duplicate

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 4:09 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

No one has mentioned it (probably because no one has seen it), but I would love to see a score only release of The Hi-Lo Country.

That would probably be my third favorite. The stunning main theme can be heard here:

http://beemp3s.org/download.php?file=4922159&song=The+Cattle+Drive

I HIGHLY recommend buying the album, though it's so obscure there's no trace of it on YouTube and there are no audio samples at Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Hi-Lo-Country-Inspired-Picture/dp/B00000HYSM

Is there really much score that's not on the album? Never seen the film.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 4:53 PM   
 By:   DeviantMan   (Member)

RAISING ARIZONA

I was an instant fan after hearing this score.

 
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