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Yes, because such things as Quidditch, horcruxes, and muggle (a word included in the Oxford dictionary thanks to HP) we're there before, right? Come on. Every person can ideas that we're used over and over again, but Rowling wrote a world on it's own. Same thing with Collins with THG (with a new version of the United Statues with their own rules and life style). If they wasn't, there wouldn't be a HP theme park in Orlando, The Hunger Games wouldn't had a growing fanbase. Twilight it's the only book series of there that it's based in the real world, not in a world of it's own.
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Yes, because such things as Quidditch, horcruxes, and muggle (a word included in the Oxford dictionary thanks to HP) we're there before, right? Come on. Every person can ideas that we're used over and over again, but Rowling wrote a world on it's own. Same thing with Collins with THG (with a new version of the United Statues with their own rules and life style). If they wasn't, there wouldn't be a HP theme park in Orlando, The Hunger Games wouldn't had a growing fanbase. Twilight it's the only book series of there that it's based in the real world, not in a world of it's own.
You're kidding, right?
So because Burger King calls their sandwich "The Whopper," that means they invented the hamburger? And since J.R.R. Tolkien created 'elvish' he thus invented the idea of language.
You've mistaken slapping a new name on something like the incredibly amazingly original idea of people riding broomsticks for originality of conception.
Yes, I hate to break it to you (especially in light of the wealth of influences Rowling herself has admitted to, and the number of writers who have written very similar stories), but indeed, stories about boy magicians existed long ago. You even say yourself The Hunger Games is a recycling of another idea. And what does something having a 'growing fanbase' mead in terms of the book series' originality?
Every novel, fantasy or 'realistic,' is a created 'world of its own.' There have been countless books about children and magic. The fans of Rowling can't see beyond a black and white 'love it, it's the greatest' or 'it's awful' mindset, which doesn't speak well of the supposed new readers her books have introduced. It's not enough I've said the books are well-written and are obviously entertaining to many, now I have to admit they're original, when they are collections of old cliches with nothing new but the funny names? Of course (as has been said endlessly) every book is influenced from previous literature, but that doesn't mean originality isn't possible or desirable. The problem with these books, as I've already said, is that they are anti-adventurous in terms of originality and freshness. They're comfy, safe books for people who should be learning the endless freedom of books.
That people think the use of established cliches is the same thing as originality proves my point about the sad state of creativity in these books, and the knowledge of literary history and true creativity in their readers.
BTW, it's amusing and a little sad to see Stephen King criticizing Twilight, as the book that brought him to prominence was a thriller that was about nothing more than being unpopular in high school.
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BTW, it's amusing and a little sad to see Stephen King criticizing Twilight, as the book that brought him to prominence was a thriller that was about nothing more than being unpopular in high school.
It's also amusing, as I may have said before, to see the cover of The Hunger Games sport endorsements from both Stephen King and Stephenie Meyer. 
Not really surprised by King giving an endorsement as he is more critic then writer right now and Meyer seems to be branching out and playing nice to fellow young adult authors.
I remember reading author Charlaine Harris [who does the Sookie Stackhouse novels that TRUE BLOOD is based upon] mention how she has never met Meyer and how being in the game so long, she has met damn near everyone.
Even the author of PERCY JACKSON Rick Riordan has sung the book's praises.
I enjoy the books and feel they are loads better then TWILIGHT since they are more about survival and unlike the HARRY POTTER series, these young adult novels are rather lean and direct. Clean and simple.
I never once felt they dragged and even anything, wanted more things fleshed out rather then displayed so fast and direct.
As for the comparisons to BATTLE ROYALE and THE RUNNNING MAN, they aren't off base but I feel that THE HUNGER GAMES isn't very much like either of those works.
Good, quick, and entertaining reads. Nothing more!
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BTW, it's amusing and a little sad to see Stephen King criticizing Twilight, as the book that brought him to prominence was a thriller that was about nothing more than being unpopular in high school.
It is neither amusing nor sad. Stephen King did not criticize TWILIGHT because it featured a character´s high school life. He criticized it for its writing.
BTW, "Carrie" was not only about being unpoular in high school. It was also about religious extremism, bullyism, fear of sexuality and many other things.
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BTW, it's amusing and a little sad to see Stephen King criticizing Twilight, as the book that brought him to prominence was a thriller that was about nothing more than being unpopular in high school.
Twilight is not just about being bad literature or whatever. It's propaganda. I don't know... What's so bad about writing a book about being unpopular in high school? It certainly is not mind-blowingly original, but it does not bring troubling moral standards to millions of teenage girls. Stephen King is not someone who writes serious literature, but that's not the point.
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I loved the clip and JNH's music. It has a Blood Diamond/I Am Legend vibe which is perfect for the movie and it sounds like the melodic side of Howard.
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Complete list of source music and songs made for the movie, which are going to be in it:
“DEEP IN THE MEADOW (LULLABY)”
Lyrics by Suzanne Collins
Music by T Bone Burnett and Simone Burnett
Performed by Jennifer Lawrence and Willow Shields
“FAREWELL”
Written by Evgueni Galperine
Performed by Evgueni Galperine and Mariana Tootsie
Courtesy of Mathieu Gerault
“HORN OF PLENTY”
Written by Win Butler and Régine Chassagne
“WAR”
Written by Gabriel Hubert, Saiph Graves, Amal Hubert, Tycho Cohran, Jafar Graves, Uttama Hubert, Seba Graves and Tarik Graves
Performed by Hypnotic Brass Ensemble
Courtesy of Honest Jon’s Records
“SEDIMENT”
Written and Performed by Laurie Spiegel
Courtesy of Laurie Spiegel
“A WASP ON HER ABDOMEN”
Written and Performed by Chas Smith
Courtesy of Cold Blue Music
“THREE MOVEMENTS FOR ORCHESTRA, MVT. 1”
Written by Steve Reich
Performed by Lower Austrian Tonkünstler Orchestra and Chorus Sine Nomine Conducted by Kristjan Järvi
Courtesy of Chandos
By Arrangement with Source/Q
“ALLT VARO HLJÓTT”
Written and Performed by Olafur Arnalds
Courtesy of Erased Tapes Records Ltd.
“MARISSA FLASHBACK”
Written by Thomas Owen Mostyn Rowlands
“ABRAHAM’S DAUGHTER”
Written by Win Butler, Régine Chassagne and T Bone Burnett
Performed and Produced by Arcade Fire
Courtesy of Arcade Fire Music, LLC
“SAFE & SOUND”
Written by Taylor Swift, John Paul White, Joy Williams and T Bone Burnett
Performed by Taylor Swift Featuring The Civil Wars
Produced by T Bone Burnett
Courtesy of Big Machine Records, LLC
“KINGDOM COME”
Written by John Paul White and Joy Williams
Performed by The Civil Wars
Produced by T Bone Burnett
Courtesy of sensibility music / Republic Records
And score details:
Additional Music by T Bone Burnett
Additional Music Performed by The Punch Brothers
Additional Music and Arrangements by William Ross
Music Editors: Curtis Roush, Jim Weidman, David Olson
Additional Arrangements and Synth Programming: Stuart Michael Thomas, Sven Faulconer
Orchestra and Choir Conducted by Gavin Greenaway
Choir Co-Masters: Terry Edwards, Ben Parry
Choir: London Voices
Orchestra Leader: Thomas Bowes
Orchestral Contractor: Isobel Griffiths
Assistant Orchestral Contractor: Jo Buckley
Auricle Control Systems: Chris Cozens, Richard Grant
Music Librarian Doug Logan
Music Preparation by Dave Hage, Dakota Music Service
Score Recorded and Mixed by Shawn Murphy
Additional Score Recorded by Jason Wormer
Additional Score Mixed by Mike Piersante Additional Programming by Jerome Leroy
ProTools Operators Erik Swanson David Channing
Second Mix Engineer Matt Ward
Scoring Coordinator Pamela Sollie
Scoring Assistant Christopher Wray
Score Recorded at Air Lyndhurst Studios, London, UK
Score Mixed at John Powell Studios, Pacific Palisades, CA
Source: http://lionsgatepublicity.com/epk/thehungergames/
Nice to see that JNH used choir for the movie (since that I was expecting him to use them for the Capitol scenes).
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Well, why not? JP is one of the best things to come out of Robot Factory! 
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