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 Posted:   May 14, 2013 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

yeah, that Romance beat TMP just tells you how legit the Oscars for scores are, or are not. TMP is a so much more complex, massive, interesting and better work. The Oscars have pretty much been undermined in the last few decades. Even the best picture award is pretty bizarre usually to me. I mean, what was with The Artist for best picture? I mean, that was the best film for the entire year?

Well, the only part of this assessment I agree with is that Goldsmith's score is more massive. I don't find it more complex, interesting or a better work than Delerue's. I was just listening to A Little Romance yesterday and am still impressed by the opening cue where he manages to keep the melodic line aloft for nearly two minutes before bringing it to resolution. That to me is incredibly complex scoring, even if it doesn't involve a whole arsenal of instruments pounding away. Delerue makes this kind of difficult composing look so elegant and effortless that it is often overlooked by many listeners. Fortunately, the Academy recognized his abilities.

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2013 - 10:12 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

yeah, that Romance beat TMP just tells you how legit the Oscars for scores are, or are not. TMP is a so much more complex, massive, interesting and better work. The Oscars have pretty much been undermined in the last few decades. Even the best picture award is pretty bizarre usually to me. I mean, what was with The Artist for best picture? I mean, that was the best film for the entire year?

Well, the only part of this assessment I agree with is that Goldsmith's score is more massive. I don't find it more complex, interesting or a better work than Delerue's. I was just listening to A Little Romance yesterday and am still impressed by the opening cue where he manages to keep the melodic line aloft for nearly two minutes before bringing it to resolution. That to me is incredibly complex scoring, even if it doesn't involve a whole arsenal of instruments pounding away. Delerue makes this kind of difficult composing look so elegant and effortless that it is often overlooked by many listeners. Fortunately, the Academy recognized his abilities.


well maybe, but it was not the Best Score

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2013 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

I finally understand why that Little Romance score won over ST TMP- it was simple mass marketing by Bruce. The TMP score was robbed of the Oscar because of mass marketing.

Wasn't a similar tactic used in preceding years by, Tiomkin and others? And now it is more of a widespread thing, what with the 'for your consideration' private CDs for Acadamy members.


yeah, that Romance beat TMP just tells you how legit the Oscars for scores are, or are not. TMP is a so much more complex, massive, interesting and better work. The Oscars have pretty much been undermined in the last few decades. Even the best picture award is pretty bizarre usually to me. I mean, what was with The Artist for best picture? I mean, that was the best film for the entire year?


That Goldsmith won only once in his career and Bernstein once for Thoroughly Modern Millie tells one an awful lot. These awards are basically meaningless. Delerue should have won for The Mission pure and simple and Goldsmith for his Star Trek.

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2013 - 10:21 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Delerue should have won for The Mission pure and simple

That would have been robbery!

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2013 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)



That Goldsmith won only once in his career and Bernstein once for Thoroughly Modern Millie tells one an awful lot. These awards are basically meaningless. Delerue should have won for The Mission pure and simple and Goldsmith for his Star Trek.


...and you wanting Delerue to win for THE MISSION tells an awful lot about you.

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2013 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Delerue should have won for The Mission pure and simple

That would have been robbery!


LOL! Thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2013 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   Bill Finn   (Member)

Delerue should have won for The Mission pure and simple

That would have been robbery!


Literally!

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2013 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

Delerue should have won for The Mission pure and simple

That would have been robbery!


Literally!


Well, of course my error. That said doesn't change my belief and I'm sure many others that the Awards themselves are meaningless except for people who do take them seriously. Also, that Goldsmith should have one any number of times and took home that statue only once. Take 1984 for an instant...A Passage To India over The Natural?
Temple of Doom?

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2013 - 6:54 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

I thought there was something wrong there but I didn't put my two cent's in. I thought DELERUE should have won for AGNUS OF GOD AND BARRY IN 71 FOR THE LAST VALLEY

 
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