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 Posted:   Mar 14, 2016 - 2:46 PM   
 By:   Andys8418   (Member)

I currently have my copy original copy of Alfred the great on mgm listed on ebay uk

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2016 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   Andys8418   (Member)

WANT!

Film and score.


My copy is currently listed on ebay uk

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2016 - 4:09 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

In the End Title (at 9:25 in my youtube excerpts video above), the music strikes a sour note like a messed up performance -- or maybe it's something clever. Anyway, it coincides as the cast credits start and Hemmings name appears. Seems like it was intentional.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2016 - 5:39 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

As mentioned in a separate thread, the Warner Archive is bringing out ALFRED THE GREAT as a made-on-demand DVD later this month.

http://www.wbshop.com/product/alfred+the+great+%281969%29+%28mod%29+1000619312.do?sortby=ourPicks&refType=&from=fn

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2016 - 8:17 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

"Alfred, the King your brother has fallen in battle. You must come!"
"A mortal wound?"
"Naw, fell off his horse."

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2016 - 6:43 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

What I meant above by the terms, "plodding" and "pretentious" referred to the presumably directorial choice of having, at pivotal points in the story, freezing the frame on a shot of Alfred's head and shoulders, then turning it, so that it's in profile, as I recall. This was to show the various transitions in Alfred's life, from monk to warrior, from warrior to king, from king to legend. It seemed pretentious to me at the time. (I think, in retrospect, the film presumes that we have an idea who Alfred is from the beginning. At the time, I'd heard of him, but had little actual knowledge of him. Also, this effect I described above may be lost in pan-and-scan versions of the film, as Alfred's head appears on one side of the screen, then turns to the other, as I recall.)

I'm listening to the CD now; reminds me of Rosenthal's music for BECKET.

Would be great if it could be remastered and re-released, with more music of course!

BTW: The CD I have is the promo mentioned above, and for cue #7 - Queen Aehlswith Leaves Alfred/Intermission/Beginning of Part Two - the liner notes state, "There was an intermission in 70mm-Roadshow-Version here. Part two of this track is the beginning of Part Two of the film."

In "Movie Roadshows A History and Filmography of Reserved-Seat Limited Showings 1911-1973," author Kim R. Holston states ALFRED THE GREAT was "roadshown in Great Britain but not the United States. Stateside, it debuted at various theaters, including the Yonkers in New York City, because MGM decided that the mixed British reviews and merely fair grosses necessitated a "showcase" playoff geared toward the action market. Did MGM misread the market. The New York Daily News thought the film 'demands the intimacy of an art house.'"

I collect souvenir programs, but have heard of none produced for ALFRED, which, of course, doesn't mean there weren't any.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2016 - 7:22 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

What I meant above by the terms, "plodding" and "pretentious" referred to the presumably directorial choice of having, at pivotal points in the story, freezing the frame on a shot of Alfred's head and shoulders, then turning it, so that it's in profile, as I recall. This was to show the various transitions in Alfred's life, from monk to warrior, from warrior to king, from king to legend. It seemed pretentious to me at the time.

Lol, it sounds like you're describing the MATRIX sfx. They were live posed shots, not freeze frames, and also functioned as transitions from one geographical scene to another.
Buy yeah, they do make you stop and think...."wtf?"wink Luckily they only did it 2 or 3 times.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2016 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

What I meant above by the terms, "plodding" and "pretentious" referred to the presumably directorial choice of having, at pivotal points in the story, freezing the frame on a shot of Alfred's head and shoulders, then turning it, so that it's in profile, as I recall. This was to show the various transitions in Alfred's life, from monk to warrior, from warrior to king, from king to legend. It seemed pretentious to me at the time.

Lol, it sounds like you're describing the MATRIX sfx. They were live posed shots, not freeze frames, and also functioned as transitions from one geographical scene to another.
Buy yeah, they do make you stop and think...."wtf?"wink Luckily they only did it 2 or 3 times.



That, and the small amount of extras in the battle scenes, as well as not so imposing sets. (Although, what did I expect from the 9th Century A.D.? It's not like we're roaming around Constantinople...) I kept comparing this to fairly recent competition, like FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE and CLEOPATRA, or THE VIKINGS from the 50's, and felt like it was about the squabbles of local chieftains, with no idea it was so important to British history. I guess MGM should have started with a title card, announcing how Alfred eventually unified Britain, but I don't remember any such thing, and, presumably, British audiences wouldn't need it.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2016 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   ukgroove   (Member)

From my files of newspaper and magazine articles, and posters, collected during the 1960s and 1970s, here's a selection of London stuff from Alfred the Great printed in 1969, and featured on a major British film and TV website.

As written, am able to post up more stuff there if readers wish.

Rick aka UKGroove.

http://www.britmovie.co.uk/forums/looking-video-dvd-film/94375-alfred-great.html#post2202294

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2016 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)



That, and the small amount of extras in the battle scenes, as well as not so imposing sets. (Although, what did I expect from the 9th Century A.D.?



What you're missing is that the sets on Alfred are REAL!

The film was shot in Ireland, and those sets, like the round tower at Kilmacduagh (the ruins of whose monastery were ingeniously thatched for the movie) are famous tourist attractions. Also the Castlehackett site. The round towers all over Ireland were built to keep out the Vikings, and what you're seeing is the real deal, not cardboard sets. That would have been a plus rather than a minus in Europe.

So it was actually visually quite special. Perhaps in the US that might not have seemed obvious and needed highlighting. Alf didn't unify Britain, just England.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2019 - 5:37 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Raymond Leppard passed away October 22, 2019. He was 92.

Thank you for the beatific music.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2019 - 10:49 PM   
 By:   raferjanders   (Member)

@John B. Archibald
I collect souvenir programs, but have heard of none produced for ALFRED, which, of course, doesn't mean there weren't any.

Indeed, there was one published for the Japanese release. I found this not long ago, ticket still inside.



Dated November 24th 1969

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2019 - 1:59 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

Raymond Leppard passed away October 22, 2019. He was 92.

Thank you for the beatific music.


I didn't know that, a bit of history passes away. A lot of my favourite discs are conducted by him, mostly Handel & Rameau & Bach's sons, & a lovely score for Alfred The Great.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2021 - 1:54 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

So it looks like this score may finally be making the (legit) leap to CD.
BK alludes to such in the BSX Bunfight thread over yonder.
I must say, although I'm unfamiliar with the film or its music, the 10 minute suite someone has posted in said thread is very good indeed.
There's a lovely, sweeping Nino Rota/Romeo & Juliet feel to it.
Certainly one to look out for.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2021 - 3:03 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I'd buy it. I had the CD (a bootleg I assume), but I lost it a few decades ago. It never sounded that great, in fact sections that were posted on YouTube sounded so much better & were more complete.

I also have a soft spot for the 1969 film, which is not great (far from it), but I enjoyed it at the cinema & would buy a Warner Archive Blu-ray, but I don't think that's going to be happening.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2021 - 5:34 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

The Warner MOD dvd is still a decent copy. The YT suite here was edited from the aforementioned Wessex cd. Dunno if that was sourced from the vinyl, and what Bruce would be using. I assume Warner had to okay a release, which would be a task from what I read about the studios.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2021 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

It's a while back, but I remember that some of the soundtrack posted on YouTube wasn't on that CD, & as I posted, it sounded very good, as if the poster had access to some tapes. Oh well, I suppose we'll know soon enough.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2021 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

It's a while back, but I remember that some of the soundtrack posted on YouTube wasn't on that CD, & as I posted, it sounded very good, as if the poster had access to some tapes. Oh well, I suppose we'll know soon enough.

If you mean this YT video, the uploader said he ripped the LP, although someone asserted that it contained non-LP music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxigSb4JTOY&ab_channel=LeighRichards
"but what i have uploaded is taken from the LP of the soundtrack which was officially released........hope this helps clear this matter up.........regards davidleigh"

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2021 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I take it that the original LP soundtrack release was kosher. I've never seen an LP release that looked more like a bootleg, maybe MGM lost interest in the film & then discovered that they were obliged to release the soundtrack. Anyway, so far this year was shaping up to be the first year that I've never bought a soundtrack release, so that might change.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2021 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I take it that the original LP soundtrack release was kosher. I've never seen an LP release that looked more like a bootleg, maybe MGM lost interest in the film & then discovered that they were obliged to release the soundtrack. Anyway, so far this year was shaping up to be the first year that I've never bought a soundtrack release, so that might change.

The cover is shoddy, but the other images look legit (as seen on discogs).
https://www.discogs.com/Ray-Leppard-Alfred-The-Great/release/3797281

 
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