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 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 1:02 AM   
 By:   Julian K   (Member)

Well, I'm clearly very wrong. Why do I so remember seeing it without the subtitle? Also, Leonard Maltin's guide lists it as just "Poltergeist II," and they're main title card purists. Hmmm…

It's possible that they re-made the titles for any TV or VHS release, to avoid cropping. Perhaps there are some versions out there without the subtitle!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 5:14 AM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)

For a release which MV said was a waste of time, there seems to be a lot of interest in this one! Count me in too!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 5:20 AM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

I can't believe after this purchase I'll have spent close to $80 on this score over the years! ahhh!

 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 6:27 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

As it was confirmed Poltergeist II is being released by Kritzerland I thought it deserves its own thread instead of discussion on the Miracle Worker (another fantastic score) thread.

And yes, it's the complete (at long last!) Poltergeist II. We've gone back to the original three-track mixes so we didn't have to deal with the previous CDs various EQs, none of which were to my liking and the last of which is mastered so hot as to defy credulity. The four missing short cues are there. No alternates, but we are including bonus tracks of two cues that appear without choir in the film (they were scored to have the choir and appear that way in the main program - but we have the instrumental-only versions in the bonus section) along with some other odds and ends that are fun. Very excited about this one and yes, it's more than 1000 and less than 2000 - given it's prior release history I wasn't comfortable with 2000, whereas I was with 1500, which I think will move just fine. At 2000 I'd have to read the endless litany of "I'm fine with the Varese" - you know what I mean. smile

I really love this score and more than the 4 short unreleased cues I really happy that the film version (whithout chorus) of Wild Braces and Vomit Creature will be included as a bonus (I prefer them whithout the chorus).

This will be for sure a wonderfull release specially with the reported improvement in the sound department. Several of the tracks on previous releases suffered from the loud mastering, specially Reaching Out that has clear distortion on some loud passages.

An anticipated: Thank You Kritzerland!!!


 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 6:28 AM   
 By:   Mike Skerritt   (Member)

For one reason or another I've never gotten this score, so suffice to say I'm extremely excited about the new release. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 6:34 AM   
 By:   jacky   (Member)

I can't believe I'm buying this score again.

Yes...same feeling here!

 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 6:58 AM   
 By:   Mr. Vyse   (Member)

For one reason or another I've never gotten this score, so suffice to say I'm extremely excited about the new release. smile

You and me both! Looking forward to it.

 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 7:05 AM   
 By:   JeffM   (Member)

Does "Late Call" include the phone ring effect?

Do you want it to? smile

We have both versions, with and without.


I vote for without. If I want to hear the phone ring, I'll watch the movie. smile

The ring on the soundtrack isn't even the same ring as the phone in the movie. Just my opinion/vote of course.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Does "Late Call" include the phone ring effect?

Do you want it to? smile

We have both versions, with and without.


I vote for without. If I want to hear the phone ring, I'll watch the movie. smile

The ring on the soundtrack isn't even the same ring as the phone in the movie. Just my opinion/vote of course.


It's without in the film score program and with in the bonus section.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   RedOkt64 2.0   (Member)

Yeah, I am totally buying this!

The cue where Kane is at the front door with Steven, and Diane is having visions of Kane's past still make me shutter.


Yes indeed. This is a must have. Thanks Bruce. Julian Beck was just perfection for casting. The malevolence was breathtaking.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   DavidCorkum   (Member)

The ring on the soundtrack isn't even the same ring as the phone in the movie. Just my opinion/vote of course.

The ring effect was something Goldsmith added to the cue for the original LP. He probably wrote it that way initially, then decided it was too off-the-wall for the film. Apparently it was recorded both ways. Another "steel bowls" controversy.

 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I have the Varese and rather like it. Yeah, I'll double dip and maybe get around to the FSM release of the original while I'm at it.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

The ring on the soundtrack isn't even the same ring as the phone in the movie. Just my opinion/vote of course.

The ring effect was something Goldsmith added to the cue for the original LP. He probably wrote it that way initially, then decided it was too off-the-wall for the film. Apparently it was recorded both ways. Another "steel bowls" controversy.


It was only recorded one way - without the effect. The film has one kind of ring, put in in post-production, the album had its toy ring added in the mix that was originally done for the first release - but it's not on the original mix-downs.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   DavidCorkum   (Member)

It was only recorded one way - without the effect. The film has one kind of ring, put in in post-production, the album had its toy ring added in the mix that was originally done for the first release - but it's not on the original mix-downs.

Do you think that Goldsmith wrote the piece with the ring, then dropped it? Or did he add it later during a whimsical mood? It couldn't exist in the scene in conjunction with the actual phone sound effect. Maybe he wanted the sound effect to be musical only, to make it more mysterious. Pure speculation at this point, of course. I like the effect, it's fun, but maybe it works against the intent of the scene. Including it as a bonus is appreciated.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Aside from the brilliant Goldsmith score, POLTERGEIST II had one other really creepy element: the casting of Julian Beck as the leader of the devil-worshiping cult.

The very look of this man was just creepy, with hollow eyes, sunken cheeks, and, as I recall, prominent teeth.

Interesting, because Beck had been the founder of the Living Theatre, an avant-garde environmentalist troupe in the late 60's, whose specialty was mostly chaotic "happening"-type performances, which even contained, for the time, radical nudity. Their most well-known show was called "Paradise Now."

I remember seeing some of them, and, presumably, Beck, in the fall of 1968, when I attended the takeover of the Student Union at M.I.T. in Boston, at the same time that The Living Theatre was there, giving one of their performances. At the time, it was hard to tell which was wilder, what was going on in the auditorium, or upstairs with the politicos.

Those were interesting times.

Another winner, Bruce the K!

Will definitely order this one!

 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

The very look of this man was just creepy, with hollow eyes, sunken cheeks, and, as I recall, prominent teeth.

He *was* dying from cancer as this film was being shot, you know.

 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   DeviantMan   (Member)

Well, this only means the standoff between Varsese & Intrada is over...
Kritzerland wins!!!

Thank you, Bruce!

 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

The very look of this man was just creepy, with hollow eyes, sunken cheeks, and, as I recall, prominent teeth.

He *was* dying from cancer as this film was being shot, you know.


I think he kinda always looked like that, though.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Yeah, he never looked well!

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=julian+beck+gallery&sa=X&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=0VQWUtqOF6LN7Ab5x4D4Dw&ved=0CD4QsAQ&biw=1366&bih=533

 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2013 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Roger at Intrada has chimed in:
"I never picked up the Varese because I thought our expanded version was fine (it's never been my favorite score...but yes Goldsmith's program for our original release was crazy. Even with the 30 minute AFM restriction, he choose to avoid any of the action music!). The too hot doesn't surprise me, as Varese has been pumping the levels for a while. The RUNAWAY deluxe addition is really hot too...I prefer the sound of their first release. I just didn't realize they were doing this going back so far. Am I reading right that this new release is from the analog masters? Previous releases were from the digital masters (I wonder if Varese forgot to return them to MGM!). Although 1/2" have pretty good sound, if I'm interpreting the source right. Always a good score to keep in print especially for those that wanted everything."

http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5734&p=65367#p65367

I was wondering if perhaps Bruce chose to use the analogue masters because they had better sound (this was the mid-80s, after all). I remember that Lukas chose to use the analogue masters instead of the digital ones for most of the FSM Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan...

I suspect the Kritzerland will totally eclipse sound-wise all of the previous releases taken from the digital tapes.

Yavar

 
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