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 Posted:   Sep 3, 2004 - 12:08 AM   
 By:   Ghost Of HR   (Member)



...which was the best film of 2002...


MINORITY REPORT was the best film of 2002 until that lame third act! Sorry but I feel that Speilberg whimped out on that film. He went out of his way to give it a happy ending. I felt it went against the grain of the entire first and second act. Which ending would you remember? The one where Cruise gets put into a deep freeze, a victim of the system he once embraced or the "Scooby Doo" ending? Oh my God...It's Max Von Sydow!! "And I would have gotten away with it too...if it weren't for your meddling wife"!! A film with great ideas and the wrong ending. IMHO.

I have to say I'm a little apprehensive about this WAR OF THE WORLDS remake because of the screenwriter. JP:THE LOST WORLD was a pretty lame script. Speilberg makes the film worthwhile with some good set pieces. But the response that this thread is getting me tells me this film is going to be a HUGE hit regardless!!!

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2004 - 8:37 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

More about Spielberg's TWOTW has appeared in today's IMDb news -- never a great source for factual reporting, and much of thishas been made public previously -- but one phrase leapt out at me:

Movie superstar Tom Cruise has become the highest earning actor in Hollywood history after signing a deal that could earn him a staggering $360 million for his role in War Of The Worlds. Rather than agree a set fee for his part in the Steven Spielberg-directed epic, Cruise will earn 10 per cent of the film's box office takings plus a share of profits from DVDs, video games and toys. Experts predict the film - based on HG Wells' classic novel about a Martian attack - could make $1.8 billion at the cinema alone, of which Cruise's share would be an incredible $180 million. And, if he stars in the two planned sequels, Cruise's earnings will double at least. A Hollywood source says, "No expense will be spared. Spielberg wants to make it the film of the decade - the one that everyone talks about and rushes to see."

The phrase that made me do a cartoon character double take:

...if he stars in the two planned sequels...

Exqueeze me? Dragon, do you have the bite-size synopsis of the sequel franchise?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2004 - 9:35 PM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

DOGPLANT: The synopsis for the two TWOTW sequels will be exactly like the formula sequels for the two JURASSIC PARK sequels.....except there will be Martians instead of dinosaurs (i.e., arrogant, cocky, stud hero; stunning female scientist/love interest; precocious children in peril, dazzling special effects; mindboggling stunts; voracious, intelligent creatures and millions of $$$$$ in Martian toys at McDonald's.....).


P.S. The synopsis for Spielberg's next follow-on project, the Pacific War version of BAND OF BROTHERS will have U.S. Marines attacking Japanese troops on Iwo Jima. In the jungle, the combatants encounter a lost race of dinosaurs who are angered by the two warring armies and wreak havoc on them for invading their natural habitat that went undisturbed for millions of years. While Tyrannosaurs combat M-4 Sherman tanks and Pterodactyls dogfight with F6F Hellcats, the hostility is suddenly disturbed again when "cylinders" from the red planet of Mars crash on the death-filled Pacific island. The Martians are alien hunters who want the ultimate trophy: return with the bounty of modern Earth warriors and prehistoric beasts. The sequel will be titled: BAND OF BROTHERS VS. MARTIAN ALIENS VS. PREHISTORIC PREDATORS.

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2004 - 11:28 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Or how about "Band of Martian Predators vs Prehistoric Predators"? Or, in catchy adspeak: BOMP versus PP.

Dragon, I think you should pitch it to Cruise/Wagner. Maybe Tom would cut you in for a slice of his $360 million?

Please note the smiley (winkie?) we are kidding, right? I mean, somebody at IMDb must be smoking some mind-altering substance to come up with those unsubstantiated numbers.

Either that, or that's the signpost up ahead, your next stop: The Twilight Zone.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2004 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

I forgot to mention: since Cruise will have a daughter in TWOTW remake, I bet he's widower so he can have a love interest who has the hots for him and a strong maternal instinct for the daughter. I bet Cruise's wife was killed by the Martians, which gives him a personal revenge factor to combat the Martians.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2005 - 7:28 PM   
 By:   MarkB   (Member)

Just thought it might be fun to look back and judge the predictions' hit/miss ratio....

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2005 - 4:44 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)



I can't speak for the others, but the reason I am disappointed is because I think Spielberg IS a great filmmaker!!
To me, directing another TWOTW would be like Spielberg saying his next film will be JURASSIC PARK IV.

As for his collaborating with Cruise again(oi!)I have two words to say about that: MINORITY REPORT


Well, this Thanksgiving I am eating crow instead of turkey!

Saw it last night.

The tack SS took, to show one town and one family trying to survive, was perfect.

A truly frightening film (then again giant ANYTHING scare me!).

Yes, the broken family theme is getting tired, but if you ignore the first few minutes and the last, you will experience a classic horror film.

Chomp, chomp!

Bruce Marshall

P.S. Cruise was o.k.- not really an actors showcase.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2005 - 7:14 PM   
 By:   Hector   (Member)

Just thought it might be fun to look back and judge the predictions' hit/miss ratio....

Crappy movie with crappy actor and crappy story. Some visuals were interesting but are not worth it. Uninspired score, sadly, but not Williams' fault.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2005 - 5:12 AM   
 By:   Alexcremers   (Member)

I agree, critics are positive now but in a few years they hang their heads in shame.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2005 - 6:01 AM   
 By:   lars b   (Member)

Agreed, crappy movie !

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2013 - 5:13 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

I revisit this move once in a while and think it's aged quite well. Williams' score is one of his most uncompromisingly violent affairs. The level of dread he imbues in the over all tone of the score is pretty unique for him. I like how he uses reinforced brass for the alien machines of destruction. It was his ode to the kaiju genre

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2013 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

The family dynamics was nothing short of annoying. All that screaming and fighting ruined the film. Story was pretty nonsensical as well. But it was visually stunning. SFX's one could look at and savor. Nothing zipping by in a motion blur. Wonderful sound effects that really punctuated certain scenes. The whole scene hiding out in the burnt out house was intense. SS did an excellent developing each major sequence. Unlike most films which are a complete wash outs, there are stand out moments through out.

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2013 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

The family dynamics was nothing short of annoying. All that screaming and fighting ruined the film. Story was pretty nonsensical as well. But it was visually stunning. SFX's one could look at and savor. Nothing zipping by in a motion blur. Wonderful sound effects that really punctuated certain scenes. The whole scene hiding out in the burnt out house was intense. SS did an excellent developing each major sequence. Unlike most films which are a complete wash outs, there are stand out moments through out.

Amazing how opinions differ....I thought all the family stuff really grounded the movie...an imperfect family unit....something for me to care about, you know?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2013 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I thought all the family stuff really grounded the movie...an imperfect family unit....something for me to care about, you know?


Normally I'd agree with that in a split second. No question about it. But when all of the family are that obnoxious there's nothing in which to invest my emotion.

Hell, I felt that even the Tim Robbins character was more involving than they were.

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2013 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

After all my whining earlier in this thread, prior to the film's release, I enjoyed Spielberg's movie, and I've come to appreciate how it fits in with the book's legacy. Different generations put their spin on the source material.

I mentioned earlier how H.G. Wells took inspiration from thoughts about Victorian industrialization and colonization, applied to an interplanetary scenario. In 1938, Orson Welles' radio show tapped into fears about the threat of a second World War in Europe. George Pal's 1953 movie arrived at the onset of the Cold War. And many critics noted how Spielberg's 2005 movie seemed to fit into a post-9/11 trilogy, along with 'Minority Report' and 'Munich'.

I tend to think each 'War of the Worlds' adaptation has been instinctive, rather than an intellectual allegory, but I find it fascinating, and more than a little chilling, how this story keeps reinventing itself. Spielberg's film was different enough from previous adaptations to stand on its own -- certainly, visually it was pretty extraordinary -- and I felt he made it personal again.


P.S. Not sure how Jeff Wayne's 1978 musical version fits into this pattern, or the 1988 TV series. And I am not counting 'Mars Attacks' (ack! ack!), or the amateurish Asylum or Pendragon cash-ins (ack).

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2013 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

. . . And I am not counting 'Mars Attacks' (ack! ack!), or the amateurish Asylum or Pendragon cash-ins (ack).




That's cold, man.

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2013 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

Remember when Loran Alan Davis was supposed to score this movie?

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2013 - 5:46 PM   
 By:   JJH   (Member)

Remember when Loran Alan Davis was supposed to score this movie?



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