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 Posted:   Dec 21, 2013 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

"A Personal Journey with Martin Scorsese Through American Movies" has very little score. It has an opening titles set to black screen and white text, with a little drawing of Martin. Then short cues for chapters where he film would tell different aspects. And a closing credits piece.

I'd say there's about 3:35 of score in there (mainly piano; couldn't be more than ten players, at most). I think two cues were repeated. At least one cue I didn't count, because I think it was tracked. The end credits reads: "Add'l Music provided by Bescol Productions Capitol/OGM Production Music. I suspect that cue was from there.

Most of it sounds like a related cousin to his rejected score to "I Love Trouble". I could make a suite of it if anybody is interested.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2013 - 2:53 PM   
 By:   JEC   (Member)

All versions of ZULU DAWN are missing one cue, that precedes "The Hunt" in the film.

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2013 - 4:01 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I found this on the website of the composer mentioned:
Rod Abernethy is founder and creative director of Rednote Audio. Hiswork in video games began with a collaboration with veteran film com-poser Elmer Bernstein on the scores for the video game Wild Wild West,The Steel Assassin.

A couple videos on Youtube from the game suggest a synth computer game score, with an opening that might be orchestral.

But he also suggests on his site collaborations with other film composers on video games based upon films, including Debney, Zimmer, and Gregson-Williams.

I suspect some creative resume enchancement has occured. He probably used themes from the films and got blessing and maybe some info' from the compsoers on their scores, but that no real collaboration occured.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2014 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

"A Personal Journey with Martin Scorsese Through American Movies" has very little score. It has an opening titles set to black screen and white text, with a little drawing of Martin. Then short cues for chapters where he film would tell different aspects. And a closing credits piece.

I'd say there's about 3:35 of score in there (mainly piano; couldn't be more than ten players, at most). I think two cues were repeated. At least one cue I didn't count, because I think it was tracked. The end credits reads: "Add'l Music provided by Bescol Productions Capitol/OGM Production Music. I suspect that cue was from there.

Most of it sounds like a related cousin to his rejected score to "I Love Trouble". I could make a suite of it if anybody is interested.




Bernstein's music for the Saul Bass-designed title sequence is on Youtube -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYLpEUETIT8

 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2014 - 1:46 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Here's all the original score I found in it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcF3kyf6PyY

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2014 - 10:47 AM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

Here's all the original score I found in it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcF3kyf6PyY


Nice bit of editing. Well done and thank you for that.

- JMM.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2014 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   pierrefrance   (Member)

The magnificent seven complete and in stereo or a re-recording from Tadlow

 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2014 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   gsteven   (Member)

Unreleased, but long overdue: THE INCREDIBLE SARAH!

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2015 - 8:29 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I know I have a lot more updating to do in this thread (especially to extend back to the 50s) but I figured I'd quickly pop in to remove this since Intrada just announced they are releasing it!

"Going Ape! -- Totally unreleased comedy score. Hemdale and Paramount are credited with the production, so probably an Intrada possibility but could be LLL or Kritzerland..."

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2015 - 9:27 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I posted a seperate thread but forgot to post it here:

I've been slowly watching videos of the 1980's "Ripleys Believe it or Not!" series (a great show), with the mind to creat a full composer's listing, but also to find which episodes David Newman and Elmer Bernstein composed.


I have found one Bernstein did -- enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2lp8HnfONg

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2015 - 10:04 PM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

THE GOOD MOTHER (1988)
If memory serves, there was a promo cassette (quality metal tape, mind you) for this charming score way back when
put out by a New York City studio. Directed by the late Leonard Nimoy, by the way.

CAPTAINS AND THE KINGS (1976)
Let me chime in for my favorite unreleased Elmer Bernstein score.
This nine-part TV miniseries had an excellent, Emmy-nominated, Irish-flavored score.
"Irish-flavored" you say! Happy St. Patrick's Day!

Ron Burbella

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2015 - 9:46 AM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

Justin, just FYI that Ripley's video link you posted links to a page that says the video is private...

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2015 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

THE GOOD MOTHER (1988)
If memory serves, there was a promo cassette (quality metal tape, mind you) for this charming score way back when
put out by a New York City studio. Directed by the late Leonard Nimoy, by the way.

CAPTAINS AND THE KINGS (1976)
Let me chime in for my favorite unreleased Elmer Bernstein score.
This nine-part TV miniseries had an excellent, Emmy-nominated, Irish-flavored score.
"Irish-flavored" you say! Happy St. Patrick's Day!

Ron Burbella


Many thanks Ron, wishing you a Happy Saint Patrick's Day too from Ireland! I'm still hoping that we may yet see a release of the lovely Elmer score for CAPTAINS AND THE KINGS (1976).

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2015 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

That sucks. It wasn't private at the time. You'll have to ask the user if he'll let you see it.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2015 - 6:24 PM   
 By:   MOsdtks   (Member)

I would much rather see unreleased Bernstein rather than expansions.
Honestly I have pretty much stopped buying expansions. I almost never listen to the extras. It's a little like watching deleted scenes from films. A few of the scenes are interesting, but most you can quickly understand why they weren't used.
I'm about a good listening experience. This can be achieved with a well produced 30 to 40 minute cd as well as a 1500 min. boxed set.
All the above mentioned unreleased Bernstein would be very welcomed in my collection.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2015 - 7:01 PM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)




Posted: Oct 18, 2003 - 3:08 PM
By: Niall from Ireland (Member)

"I'm still marveling at the great news of the upcoming Intrada release of National Geographic Presents Yankee Sails To Europe. This is but one of many fine scores that Elmer Bernstein composed for documentary films back in the 60s and 70s. Apart from the David L Wolper productions which included the Oscar nominated Four Days in November (1965) other standout films included Alaska (1971) and The Last Days of John Dillinger (1971). However, one that I remember with fondness was The Wolfmen (1969) an Irwin Rosten MGM production, narrated by James Coburn which was also Oscar nominated in the Field Of Best Documentary Film for that year"

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=16056&forumID=1&archive=1


It's geting on for twelve years now since I posted the above message, with nary a mention from any of the labels about the possibility of a release of any of those wonderful, short TV scores by Elmer. It's a pity as they contain some prime Bernstein music. But I haven't given up hope yet!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2015 - 7:01 PM   
 By:   Smitty   (Member)

I would much rather see unreleased Bernstein rather than expansions.
Honestly I have pretty much stopped buying expansions. I almost never listen to the extras. It's a little like watching deleted scenes from films. A few of the scenes are interesting, but most you can quickly understand why they weren't used.


I agree. Premiere releases of Bloodbrothers, The Amazing Mr. Blunden, The Silencers and Captains and the Kings for me.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2015 - 7:33 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Here's a documentary film he scored. It's terrible sound, but better than nothing -- sounds like a good score:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbb4sE70beM

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2016 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

Wanted to bump this to show support for unreleased Bernstein.

Since the last post, "Airplane II" has been released by La La Land Records, but it's important to note that this score is Richard Hazard adapting Elmer Bernstein material from the first film while also providing his own music, so it's not a project Bernstein was directly involved in.

I remember Varese stating that they couldn't find Elmer Bernstein's "Jimmy Reardon" score. This was a statement following their release of Bill Conti's replacement score. It's possible the director has a tape of the Bernstein music if the studio doesn't, but because of how bad his experience was in making this film for 20th Century Fox (who might own the Bernstein music, even if they don't have the tapes) it might be enormously complicated to try and release it. Or maybe the director has the rights to the Bernstein score? Or maybe it's lost. Has anybody seen the director's cut and heard Bernstein's score?

"Class" is available as an isolated score on the Twilight Time Blu-Ray. Haven't seen the film and I'm not familiar with this unreleased score. Anybody have comments on this score? How long is it?

"The Good Mother" indeed had a promo cassette tape that was made around the time of the film's release, and this tape includes several cues that were dropped from the film. It's a lovely score, most of it very much in the vein of "Dana's Theme" from "Ghostbusters."

Anybody know more about Bernstein's rejected "Innocent Blood" score? Has John Landis ever been asked about this?

Yavar, are you still planning to delve into pre-1979 Bernstein?

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2016 - 4:20 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Absolutely! I just graduated with my BA today -- over the summer I'll find the time to expand this to Bernstein's full career. Thanks for the reminder!

Yavar

 
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