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 Posted:   Jan 31, 2013 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

Now getting back to the score...I think this score is one of the most underrated of the films.

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2013 - 3:37 PM   
 By:   losher22   (Member)

I hope people continue to post in this thread so every time I see that there is a new post, I get excited only to find out that there is still no news. big grin

^ What he said!

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2013 - 3:18 AM   
 By:   adamclark83   (Member)

All I ask for is that the track liner notes be contained within the booklet and not having to be downloaded from the distributor's website.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2013 - 3:24 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

All I ask for is that the track liner notes be contained within the booklet and not having to be downloaded from the distributor's website.

I second that!

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2013 - 3:44 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I remember buying the Star Trek Insurrection CD in the store before the movie came out, literally a thing of the past now as there are virtually no more stores carrying soundtracks nearby , and listening in fascination as to what the movie would be about. I have to admit being a tad disappointed the movie didn't feature as menacing a villain as its predecessor but once I saw it in the theatre I did enjoy it for what it was.

Of the TNG scores, Insurrection to me has the best balance between action and character moments and is also the most playful in transitioning between those modes (something that I felt was missing from Nemesis, both in score and movie).

Much like the expansion of First Contact, I look forward most to the climactic cue which I hope will be presented in film & album version. The album to insurrection was a strong one, covering the vital themes and moments in the movie, but there are still some strong cues (the holodeckship, the call for arms, the collector deploying, ...) which I can't wait to hear in a C&C program.

Bring it on!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2013 - 4:41 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

You will need some kind of healing process after watching the film!

I'd say its not only the best of the TNG movies but one of the better ST movies too. But thats a discussion for another time...


Now is the time! LOL! Here's a fun clip that I found on youtube. It's a Star Trek movie marathon filming the audience via time lapse photography. They also rate all the movies. You'll never guess which film comes in last...



That is nifty; thanks for sharing. I've long wanted to do something like that myself. I actually did go to an actual theatrical Star Trek movie marathon once, but it was in 1991, for the 25th anniversary, and had just the first five movies plus the teaser and trailer for the then-upcoming Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. I haven't done a longer one yet with all the subsequent movies, but perhaps someday...

I would have ranked a few of the movies higher or lower than this group did, but I agree with a lot of theirs. I do have to say that although I can't personally put Star Trek: First Contact quite as high as Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, I do like that this group wound up giving two movies a tie for first, and that the two included one movie each from the two main crews and eras represented in the movies.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2013 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

I remember buying the Star Trek Insurrection CD in the store before the movie came out, literally a thing of the past now as there are virtually no more stores carrying soundtracks nearby , and listening in fascination as to what the movie would be about. I have to admit being a tad disappointed the movie didn't feature as menacing a villain as its predecessor but once I saw it in the theatre I did enjoy it for what it was.

Of the TNG scores, Insurrection to me has the best balance between action and character moments and is also the most playful in transitioning between those modes (something that I felt was missing from Nemesis, both in score and movie).

Much like the expansion of First Contact, I look forward most to the climactic cue which I hope will be presented in film & album version. The album to insurrection was a strong one, covering the vital themes and moments in the movie, but there are still some strong cues (the holodeckship, the call for arms, the collector deploying, ...) which I can't wait to hear in a C&C program.

Bring it on!


I am hoping Insurrection gets the treatment that Generations got. With 2 CDs with the complete score and original album presentation. I was surprised First Contact didnt come that way, especially with all of the alternates in that score..

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2013 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yeah, I wondered the same thing about First Contact. I knew there were more alternates that didn't fit on one CD, and wasn't too bothered about missing them I guess, but then Generations came out as a two-discer which seems more unnecessary than a two-disc First Contact and I was kinda stumped. They must've just changed their approach, much as FSM decided to do their first ST release (Wrath of Khan) as one disc, even though there was at least one difference between their album and the original (theirs had the film insert in the Battle in the Mutara Nebula, which does break up the flow of the track a little bit). If they had been doing the two-disc standard from the beginning (a treatment later afforded to STIII, as well as STV and STVI on other labels) then we could have gotten that as well as the used final cue without Spock's narration...oh well! I'm still super grateful for all the great new Trek music we've been given.

It's looking more and more likely however that we'll have to wait until the end of the year for Insurrection complete, because I was under the impression that LLL's new DS9 set squeaked in just under the wire before the hiatus on non-Into-Darkness merchandise began.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2013 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   Nicholas_DW   (Member)

I dreamt that Insurrection AND Nemesis expansions were announced. It has to be coming soon! wink

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2013 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

I have no idea when this Into Darkness freeze kicks in. I suspect its sometime very soon if it hasnt kicked in already. I would think this freeze would start at the beginning of a new month. At least...that would make sense. If that is the case, then there is still time. If we dont get Insurrection/Nemesis before this begins, then oh well. We have more then enough to be grateful for. With 9 expanded/complete trek film scores, the two TNG sets, the TOS box, and NOW DS9, and obviously a NEW Trek score by Giacchino forthcoming, yes I think we have no reason to be impatient over the only 2 remaining scores. Dont get me wrong, I want them as much as you do (probably more!...have you noticed my avatar??)but I can live with out them for now if need be.

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2013 - 3:24 PM   
 By:   David (Giacchino-fan)   (Member)

It would be nice if GNP just got on the board and calmed things down with some news, but that probably won't happen. Though I have to say the out-of-the-blue announcements of First Contact and Generations have been pretty nice.

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2013 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I have no idea when this Into Darkness freeze kicks in.

I wonder, without knowing the answer, what exactly Paramount's rights in this are, assuming that GNP owns all rights in perpetuity to this score. Can Paramount really deny them a window to release something they bought all rights for forever?

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2013 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I suspect the answer is yes, because if they want to expand the score rather than just reissue it all previously unreleased music needs required a new license to be granted from Paramount.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2013 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Though I'm grateful to have the First Contact and Generations set, asking me to wait a year for one if Jerry's last best scores so its not confused with Abrams's migraine-inducing 2 hour trailer for high school teens and people with unfortunate first names is a travesty the likes of which I've never come across in my life.

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2013 - 5:02 PM   
 By:   billiosis   (Member)

I have no idea when this Into Darkness freeze kicks in.

I wonder, without knowing the answer, what exactly Paramount's rights in this are, assuming that GNP owns all rights in perpetuity to this score. Can Paramount really deny them a window to release something they bought all rights for forever?


You maybe right. Perhaps it has more to do with good karma with the studio. I believe many in the biz have said that cultivating good relationships and reputations with certain studio people is an important component to getting cooperation from them.

On the other hand, I find it difficult to believe that Paramount would give a damn. Honestly, the film score cd market? This miniscule niche of a niche of a niche of a niche market? Perhaps there is no answer. Curious thing.

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2013 - 5:16 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I find it difficult to believe that Paramount would give a damn. Honestly, the film score cd market? This miniscule niche of a niche of a niche of a niche market?

I'd guess it's just a blanket policy, and that they're more concerned with books and games and calendars, but score CDs are just a casualty of this.

And yes, most labels would want to remain on good terms. But GNP isn't really doing new soundtracks, so they might not care so much.

As for whether the unreleased music has to be licensed, that all depends on how the original contract was written, which of course we don't know. I know that in many cases, a label negotiates for the rights to the score as a whole. That they choose to release only some of that doesn't mean that they only own the rights to some.

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2013 - 5:22 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Lehah, you've led a very sheltered life. I will use your post as an example of "First World Problems" for the immediate future...

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2013 - 5:26 PM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

Though I'm grateful to have the First Contact and Generations set, asking me to wait a year for one if Jerry's last best scores so its not confused with Abrams's migraine-inducing 2 hour trailer for high school teens and people with unfortunate first names is a travesty the likes of which I've never come across in my life.

Fully agreed.

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2013 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

Lehah, you've led a very sheltered life. I will use your post as an example of "First World Problems" for the immediate future...

lmao that's great Jeff.

I too hope Insurrection comes out before Paramount puts a freeze on things when Into Darkness is released.

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2013 - 6:14 PM   
 By:   Warunsun   (Member)

Oh lord. We should have something "classic" to look forward to after the In Darkness period. I can think of nothing more appropriate than a Jerry Goldsmith score. The Trek holy grail has landed.

Again, I send my thanks to everyone that reads here and was connected to any of the recent Trek re-releases from Star Trek II all the way through the amazing TOS boxed set and upcoming DS9. You made us all happy.

 
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