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Nov 10, 2011 - 8:11 AM
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Francis
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Not a fan either, but I'm drawn to the aesthetic that informs it. I just think these films are fascinating in the way they explore some extreme, very visceral fears and phobias.
But are these movies actually scary or repulsive? Because those are two different trademarks. I think getting someone's asshole sown to your mouth is more repulsive than scary which is why I don't like watching that type of shock horror. To me it's the 'two girls and 1 cup' phenomenon (which I also didn't see) but lots of people did because it was "gross".
Horror ofen has 'dirty' elements associated with it; rats, vermin, waste, disease, infection, ... but this type of 'what if' scenario isn't that confronting towards fears of the dark, the unknown and danger than it is a side show circus act. At least that's the impression I'm getting, please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I recently saw a trailer for this at the beginning of a DVD and quickly removed it from my Netflix Que. It looked so utterly horrifying and disturbing. Hell, I'm still recuperating from Psycho 51 years later. Yes, I know there's been some real dillys since then but this one looked especially sick and frighteningly disturbing. Sorry, I've never been able to handle this stuff. I accidentally ran across one of the Hostel movies while channel surfing (only watched in utter fascination and horror for about 10 minutes) and spent days trying to get over it. I'm just an old wimp when it comes to torture (and animals).
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Apr 7, 2012 - 3:49 PM
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TominAtl
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I cannot put this piece of celluloid turd in the genre of "horror". It is just a piece of grotesque rubbish that seemingly was made just to get as much of a vomit like reaction as humanly possible and apparently it worked so well it needed a sequel.
And to actually read a post above that put the word "art" in their review or viewpoint about a movie where peoples mouths get sewn into other peoples assholes so they can eat their shit and die...that has to be a joke, right?
I love horror films, well, good ones. They don't have to be great. Just scary. "Insidious" is not art, but it scared the crap out of me several times. "Halloween", "Poltergeist", "The Audition", "The Ring", etc. Great horror films. Ranging from slasher to supernatural to psychological. You cared about the characters and then they were thrown into the frying pan.
The Human Turd, er, Centipede is just another "torture porn". But instead of slashing or cutting people bits ala "Saw" or "Hostel" (dont care them either), this time it's death by doo doo. And I don't give a damn whether or not you saw actual fecal matter, fake or not. Implied or not, what is the f#@king point of this movie other than to gross one out. And I am sorry, that is not art nor horror. You wanna get grossed out, fine, go to a nursing home and empty out bedpans for an hour. Been there, done that.
My roommate got this thing from Neflix because of the so called hooplah about it. Since my kitchen eating area is adjacent to the living room with the tv I ended up watching it because I was doing extra office work at the table.(after dinner thank God Almighty) I kept asking him how in the hell could he actually watch this and to please turn it off. He didn't relent, and watched the whole damned thing, mostly to aggravate me.
It wasn't well made or well acted and the subject matter is one of the lowest forms of human degradation that I've ever seen on film. Sorry, there is absolutely no intrinsic artistic value or merit about this film whatsoever.
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Apr 7, 2012 - 9:24 PM
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It appears that 99.9% of the global population will disagree with me, but I loved this movie. Sure, it was unbelievable, but so what? Most horror movies are. I thought that until the torture scenes, Ashley Williams's and Ashlyn Yennie's acting jobs were bad, but following that, were quite powerful and effective. And Dieter Laser? I began to seek out other works of his following seeing this film - WOW, what a fantastic, realistic, and ultimately tangible performance! And I enjoyed the second film almost as much, and eagerly await the third.
Truth be told, the scene transitioning to the end credits is absolutely haunting to me. The mixture of Williams's sobbing cries with the soft, ethereal, ghostly keyboard tones are immensely emotive and truly impressive, so much so that I began to seek out the score following my viewing of the film (and was disappointed to learn it didn't exist in commercial form).
Lastly, I'm of the opinion that the line between disgusting/horrifying and laughable/ridiculous is fine indeed. I personally think that what largely turned people off to this movie was the prior knowledge of what was going to happen, and that knowledge probably came from industry critics who judge anything that's not a "powerful drama" or "life-affirming film" as trite and utter nonsense.
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Apr 7, 2012 - 9:34 PM
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JSWalsh
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Lastly, I'm of the opinion that the line between disgusting/horrifying and laughable/ridiculous is fine indeed. I personally think that what largely turned people off to this movie was the prior knowledge of what was going to happen, and that knowledge probably came from industry critics who judge anything that's not a "powerful drama" or "life-affirming film" as trite and utter nonsense.
losher22 ,
Your first sentence quoted above indicates one of the things that, in my experience, can make for the most exciting art--seeing an artist on the high-wire, trying to do something difficult and pulling it off.
Your second one, though, is a bit of a cop-out--I don't know a single person or critic who said they hated this movie because it wasn't a life-affirming feelgood movie. I just didn't like it because it was a waste of my time.
Of course, among my favorite movies are those feelgood classics REQUIEM FOR A DREAM, ALIEN 3, GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES, THE TRIAL, THE DIVING BELL AND THE BUTTERFLY, MILLION DOLLAR BABY, ERASERHEAD, FIRE WALK WITH ME... 
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Apr 7, 2012 - 9:53 PM
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losher22
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losher22 ,
Your first sentence quoted above indicates one of the things that, in my experience, can make for the most exciting art--seeing an artist on the high-wire, trying to do something difficult and pulling it off.
Your second one, though, is a bit of a cop-out--I don't know a single person or critic who said they hated this movie because it wasn't a life-affirming feelgood movie. I just didn't like it because it was a waste of my time.
Of course, among my favorite movies are those feelgood classics REQUIEM FOR A DREAM, ALIEN 3, GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES, THE TRIAL, THE DIVING BELL AND THE BUTTERFLY, MILLION DOLLAR BABY, ERASERHEAD, FIRE WALK WITH ME...
My friend, I'm starting to really treasure your presence on the FSM boards; it seems you and I hold both close/similar opinions as well as polarizing ones! Thanks again for all the feedback.
Regarding your response to my second sentence, duly noted. It made me smile instantly, only because the few persons I know that saw the first movie did so because of its reputation as being a "shocker" or "extreme horror" movie. And many of them loathed it. I was only referencing my personal disdain for professional critics who take shots at movies I have thoroughly enjoyed, for example (and lack of better ideas at the moment), Human Centipede, Dumb & Dumber, many of the Saw entries, etc. No offense to them, as they're obviously entitled to their experienced opinions; I by no means am intending to state that Human Centipede couldn't be hated for other reasons, which I know it is!
Again, thanks man - and actually, Requiem For a Dream and Alien 3 are in my top ones as well!
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I thought the first film was fun in a BAD MOVIE that KNOWS it's a BAD MOVIE and I was surprised at how it was very tame but still graphic. Nothing I wish to revisit but I chucked and squired the first time around and it fun.
As for those who don't say it isn't ART, you'd be wrong because it is indeed. GOOD or BAD is debatable but it is just as much art as the film CLERKS or SLACKER or BOTTLE ROCKET.
That being said, not all films will be a PRIME RIB and CENTIPEDE clearly knows it's a Hot Dog with Fries.
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Yeah, a hot dog and fries that's already been passed through the digestive system . . . and there's a word for that.
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May 30, 2015 - 10:45 AM
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The Thing
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I remember all the furore when the first film came out, and talk of it being banned and becoming an infamous film that I'd unlikely get to see.
I think it was a couple of years later when I did see it, and being an avid Horror movie fan, I actually found it rather tame. I think it's the idea of it that was shocking, particularly the concept of the digestive system, and most of the uproar probably came from people who had heard about it but not seen it. Word of mouth, and all that.
Visually, it wasn't particularly gory. Just the overall concept that was sick and gruesome.
But I certainly enjoyed it. The movie wasn't tacky and, all things considered, it was well made and took itself quite seriously. This was a scientific medical research project, not just some kind of torture porn to get kicks.
I wasn't so keen on the second one, as I didn't feel it had such a shock factor as the first. Not because the idea wasn't new any more, but more because the plot felt like a copycat device concept, rather than a continuation of a scientific experiment. The realism factor just wasn't there, and it just seemed like they had to make the centipede bigger just for the sake of bettering the first film.
If the opportunity arises to see the third (e.g. DVD release or TV broadcast), I'll make the effort to check it out, but not if it gets banned making it difficult to find a way to see it.
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