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 Posted:   Feb 4, 2013 - 6:15 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Any truth to the rumor that there was a tour of "The Four Houses of Alan Fivehouse" in ARCHITECTURAL DIGEST back in the seventies as some kind of promotional gimmick?

I have it. It was the July 1980 issue:









It looks like they featured the Vermont Estate in that issue. Too bad they didn't include the picture of "The Barn" in this series you posted. It was a huge structure that originally housed the horses, goats, and chickens that was later converted into a fully functioning studio for Fred to work, hold meetings, and store a majority of his intellectual property.

MaxB



It's a shame that no photos of Loftybeck's Liverpool residence (since demolished) seem to have surfaced.

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2013 - 5:04 AM   
 By:   Max Bellochio   (Member)

Received a "Happy New Year" email from the Loftybeck brothers. There's some movement on the "Brown Box" and a forthcoming "announcement" for what it's worth. I guess we'll have to wait and see what the big deal is all about. I was hoping that brown box would have come out since they produced the prototype, but years of delays at this point have dimmed some hopes. We'll see I guess.

VeryGawJus
MaxB

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 1, 2014 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Anz, Gene sent me a sample of the Brown Box exterior front cover. I hope he sends a physical copy of it. The prototype wasn't like this.



I still love that slipcase design.


If this isn't finally released this year, They might want to just split up the Fivehouse collection as digital downloads. The clock is ticking on the physical cd's you know.. wink

After all this toil and the delays, I wonder what the final price will wind up being for this mammoth set? No matter, just arrange to have Michael sit down and sign the first several hundred in gold sharpie pen and they should fly out of the offices. What a marvelous set it would be! Keep us posted Max.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2014 - 4:49 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Any news on all things Alan Fivehouse? I don't believe that the "Wagging a Finger at the Dead" DVD was ever released, or filmed to begin with, but I'd love to see what it would have looked like.

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2014 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   Max Bellochio   (Member)

Any news on all things Alan Fivehouse? I don't believe that the "Wagging a Finger at the Dead" DVD was ever released, or filmed to begin with, but I'd love to see what it would have looked like.

Can't get a straight answer on the "brown box" which is where the Loftybeck offspring left off. The word has been mum.

Let's just hope they don't sell the franchise to Disney. wink

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2014 - 4:57 PM   
 By:   Max Bellochio   (Member)

The new Alan Fivehouse??




Very Gaw Jus
MaxB

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2014 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

The new Alan Fivehouse??




Very Gaw Jus
MaxB


Perhaps you have something there. A long lost son? Perhaps not.

Certainly he's a few steps down from those who have already inherited a few crumbs of the substantial Fivehouse/Lonsdale throne. Edward Norton and Jonathan Rhys-Myers. The Fivehouse franchise post Michael Lonsdale has been known throughout the years to contain more epic twists and turns in the casting than in the mysteries themselves. In the end no one can ever live up to Michael. And he knows it.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2014 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Wow, that font for "AMCAF" sure doesn't do my middle-aged eyes any favors! I hope it's changed to a font that the swinish multitudes can understand once the film "hits" theaters.

Now I know how the Daniel Craig haters feel about his take on 007. Michael Lonsdale IS Alan Fivehouse, just as Jack Lord was Steve McGarrett, Peter Falk was Colombo, Mike "Touch" Connors was Mannix, and James Garner was Jim Rockford.

Accept no substitutes, though I do enjoy the other actors-who-would-be-Fivehouse, particularly Theodore Bikel in Alan Fivehouse: Scotland Yard's Finest and Severn Darden in that not-quite-Fivehouse series he did, the name of which eludes me. Max? Anz?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2014 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Can't wait for that one, Anz. Nick Frost will make a majestic Gilberdyke - the presence of a former Regimental Sergeant Major with a touch of pathos.

Wonder what the chances are of a novelisation.

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 4:19 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Thought I'd add this over from the "What Could Have Been..." thread, since it tangentially involves Alan Fivehouse:

THE RIVALS OF ALAN FIVEHOUSE (1982-83, BBC)
Anthology series chronicling the most baffling cases of London's "other" magnificent detectives. With Malcolm McDowell; Edward Woodward; Tom Baker; Ian Hendry; and Patrick McGoohan as "Inspector Jason Sharpel." US Syndicated title: "Norman Newman Presents: The Rivals of Alan Fivehouse."

"And Agent Norman Newman (Willem Dafoe) would quite properly provide the lead in for each segment."

Exactly. Dafoe filmed introductions for each of the sixteen episodes for Masterpiece Mystery! over on PBS, each with a cheeky Fivehouse reference. The most interesting thing about those intros is the viewer can never be sure if Dafoe is in character or not, because he's not in his "ANN" costume and he refuses to take his hands out of his pockets, thereby lending credence to the belief that at that point Dafoe just didn't give a sh!t. Unsurprisingly, those intros have been left off the dvds of The Rivals of Alan Fivehouse.

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2014 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Over on the "Let's Refute the Expert" thread, FSM's own WILLIAMDMCCRUM publicly "references" Alan Fivehouse:

"Oh, I see what you're trying to do here, Manderley. Very disingenuous. It's clear you're referring to the recent claims about Alan Fivehouse's passing, which were of course bogus. But how were we to know? It was a reasonable mistake. Had his press-secretary in Monaco not broken his strict confidence re his secluded retreat to Bhutan, the story might have seemed probable. We all make mistakes."

To which I replied:

"William, consider yourself an honorary member of The Fivehouse Five."

By the way, Max...anytime I've got a case of the blues and I need a lift, I reach for this album cover, and I smile warmly, knowing that all is well:



The angle at which Martin Freeman is posed--like a turtle peaking out of his shell--is damn near the funniest thing ever in this thread. The funniest would be this quote from Fivehouse himself:

Alan: (Sarcastically smiling) If there is one lesson that your mother always instilled in me...(Pauses, while reaching for the hunk of cheese that is on the floor) Never underestimate the sensibilities of a cheese connoisseur - for all exceptional cheeses are never cut from the same mold..."

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2014 - 6:27 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

To really appreciate that quote you have to picture Michael Lonsdale delivering the line as Alan Fivehouse.
Deadpan as always but oh so effective. He commands the room. A huge part of Michael's appeal as an actor and particularly in this role as Alan Fivehouse. There is a depth to everything he does on film that is cool, clever, and calculated. Fivehouse is a mystery even to those closest to him. His subordinates respect and trust his judgement implicitly. He shows no fear or outward signs of panic. Ever. Almost always stoic yet at times mildly amusing. And while Michael has broken free of the character and has moved on to other projects he will always carry a large part of Fivehouse with him. For Michael Lonsdale is Alan Fivehouse.


That said, it is interesting to see some of the various incarnations that have sprung forth over the years. The continuing popularity of the character will undoubtedly insure many more case files to come. wink

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2014 - 7:38 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

The angle at which Martin Freeman is posed--like a turtle peaking out of his shell--is damn near the funniest thing ever in this thread. The funniest would be this quote from Fivehouse himself:

Alan: (Sarcastically smiling) If there is one lesson that your mother always instilled in me...(Pauses, while reaching for the hunk of cheese that is on the floor) Never underestimate the sensibilities of a cheese connoisseur - for all exceptional cheeses are never cut from the same mold..."




Strangely I came across this passage in a rare interview with Freeman from 'Luvvie' magazine some time ago, just the other day:

"It was the character of Fivehouse that drew me. I really would have liked to play Fivehouse himself, but this was the next best thing. I knew I just wanted to be a part of this, any part. The thing that drew me to Fivehouse was ... and I know this is going to sound strange ... the cheese. Cheese is a metaphor for the fulness of life.

This was a man whose passion for cheese resulted in real gall-bladder problems. He was warned, but he turned a deaf ear to the doctors. Holmes had his cocaine, Wallander had his diabetes, they all have the human flaw, you know ... the thorn in the flesh. Fivehouse had his cheese fats, but he wouldn't compromise, he kept on solving crimes and taking his tablets. I've known people like that. Gerard Depardieu and his brie fetish. 'Vive la Fromage'. To love cheese is to love life. To have bile problems and to keep on loving cheese is to love life beyond living itself. You have to admire a character like that, even if fictitious. As it happens I like cheese.
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 Posted:   Aug 9, 2014 - 8:54 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Well, cheese and its ilk killed our dear Fred Loftybeck and if he'd had it to do over again, I think he still would have chosen to pound down heavy dairy and beef products.

 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2014 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   Max Bellochio   (Member)

Well, cheese and its ilk killed our dear Fred Loftybeck and if he'd had it to do over again, I think he still would have chosen to pound down heavy dairy and beef products.

Yes, and unfortunately in Fred's case, it was TACO BELL cheese and meat that killed him. Nevertheless, I had heard once that he had this affinity for Danish Fontina cheese.

MaxB

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2014 - 5:37 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Well, cheese and its ilk killed our dear Fred Loftybeck and if he'd had it to do over again, I think he still would have chosen to pound down heavy dairy and beef products.

Yes, and unfortunately in Fred's case, it was TACO BELL cheese and meat that killed him. Nevertheless, I had heard once that he had this affinity for Danish Fontina cheese.

MaxB


And to think that Fred may have "passed on" but lived a whole lot longer if he'd dined at the long-defunct TACO VIVA, which had much better fare. Their "El Scorcho" sauce was glorious. Maybe you ate there, Max? These ads were omnipresent here in South Florida:

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2014 - 6:07 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


Alan: (Sarcastically smiling) If there is one lesson that your mother always instilled in me...(Pauses, while reaching for the hunk of cheese that is on the floor) Never underestimate the sensibilities of a cheese connoisseur - for all exceptional cheeses are never cut from the same mold..."



I've been hunting youtube for the gag reel from The Revenge of Alan Fivehouse for that bit where Fivehouse is informed that his wife has been murdered. He's just taking a bite of an unspecified cheese (Roquefort? Looks like it) on a water biscuit when Ian Holm breaks the news. Lonsdale looks at the remains of the biscuit in his hand and, utterly deadpan, says "Quel fromage..."

An old joke, but what makes it so funny is that Holm is crying with laughter while it's clearly gone right over the director's head.

If anyone can find it, please post it, because it's a classic of its kind.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2014 - 5:01 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

There's a lot of debate about all this.

Loftybeck, some say, was trying to justify his own cheese-love by romanticising it, by having his great ideal detective creation as an afficionado of the same thing. It was self-bolstering.

But according to Justin Bakewell (cousin of British broadcaster Joan Bakewell) the media historian, in his paper, 'From Poirot to Fivehouse: A Post-Modern Perspective on Crime Thrillers' (Ox. 1999) the whole thing was simply to do with product placement. It's known that Loftybeck had shares in a major cheese distribution company with offices in Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Brussels and Boston. According to Bakewell this may account for the frequent fromage references in both the short stories and the TV scripts. There's even a conspiracy theory that the real reason for his passing was from an unspecified narcotic, which was tactfully smokescreened as cheese-fat cholesterol related.

I doubt it myself, but with Fivehouse's crimefighting idealism, one could see why the cloak would be necessary.




 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2014 - 8:57 PM   
 By:   Max Bellochio   (Member)

Big happenings in the Fivehouse world - including a new movie. I have to decode the drunken email from Gene Loftybeck, but it looks the fit is hitting the shan at the Loftbeck estate.

MaxB

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2014 - 5:31 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Big happenings in the Fivehouse world - including a new movie. I have to decode the drunken email from Gene Loftybeck, but it looks the fit is hitting the shan at the Loftbeck estate.

MaxB



Great stuff. Let's hope Brian Tyler uses the classic Fivehouse Theme.

 
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