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 Posted:   Nov 28, 2014 - 4:00 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Anyone else finding this thread takes ages to load?

Time for a newer, springier thread mebbe?

Who wants to create The Football Thread (part/subtitle whatever) ?

 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2014 - 5:16 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Kev, I'd like the threads to go the seasonal route, so we can title them "The Football Thread (2014-15)." That way, we can have all this wonderful research material at our cruddy fingertips--and at a snail's pace, because this board takes so long to load. smile

 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2014 - 5:33 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Yeah same here, we don't need to be starting new threads all the time. I mean, that other football/baseball/hockey/whatever playoff thread is over 8000 replies, this one is only 900 odd.

(In saying that, it does seem to be taking time to load).

 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2014 - 6:31 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Something I've been meaning to ask regarding English football announcers.

I'm going to generalize, so please be kind. wink It seems that the announcer or "play-by-play" as they say here--usually has a "proper" English accent whereas the guy who does the analysis, or "color commentary" as they say here is permitted to speak in a Scottish, Irish, or northern English accent (if he's a former player). Is this arrangement a policy for the Beeb or Sky or every other broadcaster?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2014 - 6:45 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Something I've been meaning to ask regarding English football announcers.

I'm going to generalize, so please be kind. wink It seems that the announcer or "play-by-play" as they say here--usually has a "proper" English accent whereas the guy who does the analysis, or "color commentary" as they say here is permitted to speak in a Scottish, Irish, or northern English accent (if he's a former player). Is this arrangement a policy for the Beeb or Sky or every other broadcaster?


Hah - that's pretty much how it works out. The commentator is generally a career journalist/reporter who traditionally would have ironed out any regional accent in order to fit in with the norm on TV or radio. That's less of an issue nowadays, as shown by one of the younger radio guys, John Murray, having a pronounced north-eastern accent The pundit is invariably a former player, 99% of whom are drawn from the ranks of the working class, where regional accents abound. All the commentators are pretty good at what they do, whereas the quality of the pundit varies.

Some of the better ones of the latter include:

Pat Nevin - a great speaker and football thinker if you can follow his Scottish accent. Can't remember if he does much game stuff - I've usually heard him interviewed on the radio (BBC Five Live) where he's great.

Andy Townsend - an Englishman who played for the Rep of Ireland due to family qualification, and who's a sharp guy when it comes to the round ball game.

Clarke Carlisle - former Leeds player (for about 10 minutes) and luminary in the footballers' trade union, the PFA, who's very good when he sticks to football and doesn't get sidelined into race and politics. The latter is of course important but out of place during a game...

 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2014 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

jim thanks for the argentine lips! finally saw them.

dont get me started on pundits! all as bad as each other!

So many shocking ones, espec Gobbin goblin garth crooks, trevor the birmingham bigheaded tosser and andy Bullethead gray.

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2014 - 2:44 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

bills shit predictions presents...

Arsenal to beat west brom..chelsea to beat sunderland by 3 or more, ... leeds to draw... citeh to win ... and as much as id love to smack newcastle and get our season back on track, west ham 0 newcastle 2, pardew to be smug as fk in the post match press conference and west ham down to 8th by 6pm!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2014 - 7:22 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Kin Ell Bill. Are we so shit now we don't even warrant a prediction or mention! frown

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2014 - 7:26 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Kin Ell Bill. Are we so shit now we don't even warrant a prediction or mention! frown

We figured you wanted it that way! Thomas started talking about Cricket just to change the subject!

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2014 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

West Ham 1 Newcastle 0

Liverpool 1 Stoke City 0

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2014 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

sory kev thought playin tmro and cdnt remember who they playing. Woulda said Liverpool win though.
i waz only discussing with a liverpool mate this week just how shit Glen johnson and joe cole now are. And that it wouldnt be long before johnson was playin with cole at villa - thats about their level. last stop before boro or wolves! And they both score!!

anyway bit off with my west ham prediction but thats ok. pleasantly chuffed with that result. espec as 1 up before they went to ten men in last 15.mins.

great result for leeds. even better than i thought.

chelsea looking strong against sundrland but finding it hard to break them down and get that first goal.

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2014 - 12:43 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

i hear the sound of Roy Budd opening the case to his baton!

probably for Sunderland. but hammers n liverpool had good results after lean times.

perhaps, though, Roy and Jim should look to Tgs Leeds for his SAS theme?

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2014 - 4:31 PM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

We figured you wanted it that way! Thomas started talking about Cricket just to change the subject!

I've thought of starting a seperate cricket thread before, then I realised it would probably be like one of those dan the man type threads where I end up talking to myself.

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2014 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

You boys have been napping--your teams play today:

West Brom vs. West Ham
Leicester vs. Liverpool

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2014 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I've thought of starting a seperate cricket thread before, then I realised it would probably be like one of those dan the man type threads where I end up talking to myself.

I hear you, bruddah. I think this thread is the lone topic where I actually interact with anyone here and even that is touch-and-go sometimes. Just gotta keep on keepin' on and then the right people will see, read, and appreciate it, whatever it may be.

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2014 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

You boys have been napping--your teams play today:

West Brom vs. West Ham
Leicester vs. Liverpool


yeh jim, was disappointed to find no live sky game tonight.
although extended highlights from Match Choice later.
mind you, if result shit, i wont be watching.

btw jim - we are stil waitin for Roys award from last wkend!?

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2014 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

interraction touch n go? in the words of eli wallach as Tuco to Eastwoods dissolving of the partnership in the desert. "Whadaryoumeeean?"

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2014 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

In Leeds news...

The football league has decided that Leeds owner Massimo Cellino - despite turning around an unsustainable financial situation at one of the country's highest profile clubs (I may be a little deluded on this, but it's only 12 years since we were riding roughshod over Europe's elite) - is an unfit person to run a football club. He is therefore required to resign and sever his connections with (ie sell) the club.

HOWEVER....

In March next year he becomes fit and proper again, because the alleged offence (a dispute over import tax on a boat in Italy) becomes spent. And can be a director, own the club, everything.
In reality, Cellino will appeal, and the lawyers will make a packet by dragging it out until March.

Surely the only course of action is to be pragmatic and suspend the "sentence". Anything else would be a vexatious disruption of the club for no good reason.

But let's see. The FL has got previous.

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2014 - 4:22 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

another good evening for Hammers, liverpool and er...man utd!

west ham rode their luck a bit, but played well considering not full strength side.
Nice overhead kick by Andy Carrol which led to Nolans equaliser.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2014 - 5:37 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

BT Sports had the footy rights tonight (and tomorrow , I think).
Watched da Pool hang on at 10 man Leicester. It wasn't pretty. But another 3 points away from
the drop zone smile
Win our next two home games (Sunderland and Basle) and things will seem a whole lot rosier!

 
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