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 Posted:   Dec 22, 2017 - 8:56 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

So how many chronicles associated with factual American history have there been in Mr Spielberg's cap?

Only four, I believe. "The Post," "Bridge of Spies," "Lincoln," and "Amistad."

Oh, and "1941," of course.

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2017 - 9:41 PM   
 By:   Jeff Eldridge   (Member)

So how many chronicles associated with factual American history have there been in Mr Spielberg's cap?

Only four, I believe. "The Post," "Bridge of Spies," "Lincoln," and "Amistad."

Oh, and "1941," of course.


Does "Saving Private Ryan" count as American history?

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2017 - 9:42 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

So how many chronicles associated with factual American history have there been in Mr Spielberg's cap?

Only four, I believe. "The Post," "Bridge of Spies," "Lincoln," and "Amistad."

Oh, and "1941," of course.


Right. Complete and unabridged (with the obvious score exception). wink

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2017 - 9:50 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Does "Saving Private Ryan" count as American history?

That's what I thought. Tricky, isn't it? I can see why Schiffy included 1941 - the war was implied in the title, though is largely irrelevant. 1941 is unavoidable in the strict sense the USA existed in 1941 and so can be argued is the most factual of Mr Spielberg's tours of American history. To subtract it seems a fair notion because the events depicted are predominantly false, but for that pesky title. So why not include SPR as it faithfully enacted a depiction of 6th June, 1944?

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2017 - 10:18 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Please use the correct title:
SAVING PRIVATE RYAN (in France) .



Ahahahahs!

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2017 - 10:37 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I was kidding about "1941," though it is extrapolated (very loosely) from the actual panic many people felt after Pearl Harbor.

I guess the Normandy sequence of "Saving Private Ryan" would count, but after that it's entirely fiction.

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2017 - 10:51 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

So, to include SPR would involve some sort of consensus? And if that is the case, you can't just add any to the list because of any possible loose implications that might cause general confusion over basic comprehension. They all have to be evaluated for consistency so there is no problem in their correct classification.

To be honest, Schiffy, the coastal panic was an overlapping criteria that did fuse in my mind concerning 1941. But you see, we zeroed in on what we thought were the immediate internal details of each case history, one way or the other.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2017 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   Bill in Portland Maine   (Member)

"The Court's Decision and End Credits"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnOD5TjCltQ

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 Posted:   Dec 23, 2017 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   stroppy   (Member)

"The Court's Decision and End Credits"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnOD5TjCltQ

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Really very lovely. There are some composers in Hollywood who should listen to this carefully and realise that "tonescapes" do not a soundtrack make. smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2017 - 4:58 PM   
 By:   Michaelware   (Member)

I'm sure it's a wonderful score and will work beautifully. I'm pretty burned out on politics and partisan posturing/propaganda so I don't know if I'll even bother this time.

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2017 - 5:53 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Great film and loved Williams music! Interesting enough, his music actually brought me OUT of the movie, but not in a bad way. As many here are clamoring for more melodic music or music that actually does something instead of grazing, I was simply not used to the music actually having a voice and doing something. It made me miss those day so so much. Can't wait to grab this in January! smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 25, 2017 - 6:28 AM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

Nice to see SS back with Michael Kahn

he never left

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2017 - 9:33 PM   
 By:   djintrepid   (Member)

The score is already available to purchase online and to listen to through streaming apps.

 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2017 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I'm sure it's a wonderful score and will work beautifully. I'm pretty burned out on politics and partisan posturing/propaganda so I don't know if I'll even bother this time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmRAiUPdRjk

 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2017 - 6:40 AM   
 By:   agentMaestraX   (Member)

Overall an interesting refined score! Best tracks which gives it a punch are 'the presses roll', 'deciding to publish' &
'the courts decision/end credits!' Good one Mr Williams.

 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2018 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   Jon Broxton   (Member)

My review of THE POST, for anyone who's interested:

https://moviemusicuk.us/2018/01/02/the-post-john-williams/

Jon

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2018 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)

And my review:

http://www.movie-wave.net/the-post/

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2018 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   Lewis&Clark   (Member)

And my revie- uh, oh... I don't have any big grin

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2018 - 3:53 PM   
 By:   CCW1970   (Member)

You can say All the President's Men is a different film about different things. However, both films are based on true stories set during the Nixon presidency, with the press as protagonist, dealing with lies and corruption by the establishment, and specifically the executive branch (although the Pentagon Papers were dealing with lies of the Johnson & Kennedy administrations about the Vietnam war, and were leaked during the Nixon administration). I not only think it's an unavoidable comparison, I think it's a fair comparison.

It may be unavoidable, but I don't think it's fair. "All the President's Men" is about grunt reporters uncovering a mystery. "The Post" has no mystery – we know from the first five minutes who has done what and why. And the heroes are not grunts – one of the key points in the movie is that they are in the upper echelons of Washington elites. They are mostly wealthy, they were chummy with JFK and McNamara. This is not incidental, it is frequently the point.

The film is not a reboot of or prequel to "All the President's Men," and since "All the President's Men" exists, I don't know why anybody would want it to be. That said, I have a pretty good sense that you will not like the movie, CCW1970.


Schiffy,

Saw the film at Fox last week. Happily, my fears were unfounded. Apart from a couple of nit-picky things (Creedence on the soundtrack during a Vietnam sequence!? ugh!), it was great.

You’re right that Williams make the music work. I thought the music spotting was especially effective. Streep, Odenkirk, Hanks – everyone’s great in it.

No matter how many films of his I see, I’m still impressed with how Spielberg stages frenetic scenes with lots of characters, like when all the journalists are going through the papers in Bradlee’s living room.

Williams really knows how to make music work in any genre, but especially in dramas like this one, where other filmmakers tend to hold back on music, either because they don’t trust it, don’t trust themselves, worry it may “lead” the audience too much, see over the top, etc.

For my money, Williams makes a huge contribution in cues like “The Papers,” "Setting the Type," and especially “The Presses Roll.” That montage is brilliant, from the type setting to the trucks tossing big stacks of papers to newsstands, and is greatly aided by Williams’ score. Good stuff!

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2018 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Credence?

Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!

 
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